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BermudaBound2014

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    I’m not even loyal to my siblings
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  1. I wonder what the definition is of a "close contact"? Let's say your waiter tests positive for Covid. Does that mean that every passenger he/she served is quarantined in their cabins? There is no social distancing from a waiter and typically passengers eating are not wearing masks so social distancing/masks are not relevant in this scenario. I read that MSC is doing contact tracing via the electronic wrist band. I'd hate to end up quarantined in my cabin because a person sitting next to me at lunch tested positive. So many questions still unanswered.
  2. Until I see the cruise line policy for what happens when an outbreak occurs, there is no way I would consider an inside cabin. I can't even imagine being stuck in an inside cabin during any type quarantine. Given that you are traveling with people who will be outside of YC and we have no idea what the 'new' policies will be for people visiting YC, I would take the balcony where your family can be together on the trip (and if something happens you have access to fresh air).
  3. I suspect there are a great many people who disagree with you on this topic.
  4. I tend to believe the CDC is going to force transparency and disclosure. That may be one of the factors in why it's taking so long for the USA to open cruising.
  5. I hate to link to Jim Walker's site, but it is the only place I found any information about MSC being denied entry into Malta due to covid. It appears guests were exposed during the October 7th sailing, but details are lacking. On another note: I found this particular paragraph very odd. If true, I don't believe the CDC would approve a similar protocol. I expect the CDC will require passengers boarding ships to be notified if a positive case was identified onboard. "One thing appears certain regarding MSC’s (as well as Costa’s) new protocols is that they apparently do not require the cruise line to publicly disclose that there has been a confirmed positive COVID-19 case during a cruise. Last week, we reported that there had been eight positive cases confirmed on the Costa Diadema which also sailed from an Italian port. Costa did not publicly reveal this information. Only through reporting by the Italian press did the public learn this information. At a minimum, the next group of passengers who are booked to sail on a ship with infected guests or crew members should be notified of a confirmed case. They should also have the right to cancel their cruise with a full and immediate refund of their cruise fares. https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2020/10/articles/uncategorized/italian-ministry-of-health-confirmed-case-of-covid-19-on-the-msc-grandiosa/
  6. I suspect you were ill advised by your concierge for the very reasons you explained. Are there any travel agents out there who can confirm/deny that agent assigned SBC/OBC is, in fact, non-refundable on MSC? In the meantime, I'll see if the agent I used for the MSC OBC fiasco still has the policy saved. She stopped selling MSC for the very reasons you described above. Inconsistency.
  7. CCL already had all sailings cancelled with the exception of a few sailing from Port Canavaral and Miami. Today they cancelled the ships from PC and Miami through the end of November also. Not shocking to most, but some held out hope that because Carnival hadn't cancelled PC and Miami there was a chance.
  8. I'm not sure if this is a sign of things to come in the USA once cruising resumes, but the thermal suite area is closed on ships sailing under the Carnival umbrella in the EU. https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23627-what-it-s-like-to-cruise-with-costa-during-the-pandemic.html
  9. That's my point. OBC/SBC that comes as a gift from a travel agent is always refundable (as it should be). There isn't a travel agent alive who would agree to a policy where they gift their clients but MSC keeps it? Of course, if the Obc originated with MSC, or through some other promotion, that is entirely different. But, MSC"s official policy is that OBC originating from a travel agent IS refundable. My travel agent has that in writing. The issue is that not everyone at MSC understands how obc/sbc originates.
  10. It's not quite that simple. There are different types of OBC. Typically speaking, OBC awarded by the cruise line is non-refundable (use it or lose it) while OBC awarded from a travel agency is refundable and will be returned to the credit card on file if not used. Most cruise lines will deduct from the non-refundable account first. I say most because we both know MSC does things differently and often times inconsistently. I had a small amount of refundable OBC left over from my first MSC cruise on Divina. I mistakenly believed it would just be applied to the CC on file like every other line I have sailed. Needless to say, no amount of contacting MSC was going to get that money back. My TA tried. I tried. Then we both chuckled and gave up because it truly wasn't worth the hassle. I recommend contacting the YC concierge upon boarding to explain the order you want the OBC deducted. I doubt there is anything you can do before being on the ship that would yield absolute results.
  11. I agree. In this context, I think it refers specifically to what are the procedures if a case is diagnosed onboard. Remember the Zaandam that was infected? The CDC made the cruise line charter private flights for everyone onboard that cruise ship. And then provide private transportation from the airport home. https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/dhs-cdc-restricts-new-air-travel-for-cruise-ship-passengers-zaandam-departure Of course, we've learned a lot since the Zaandam, but I suspect no cruise ship is willing to accept that type of liability.
  12. Last April, CDC made the Zaandam charter special flights for all passengers debarking. There was a report of one couple from the Zaandam who were flown on a special chartered flight to Chicago and then took an 8 hour private car transportation from Chicago to their home. All paid for by the cruise line per the CDC order. https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/dhs-cdc-restricts-new-air-travel-for-cruise-ship-passengers-zaandam-departure
  13. IKR?? And that is the exact quote that has been picked up by all the news media.
  14. @PointNemo GMTA... I just posted this on another forum. This comes directly from the Whitehouse briefings of yesterdays meeting. The yellow highlighted portion is being reported in multiple sources this morning. Anyone care to speculate what would be involved in a "Backstop"?? I know all we can do here is speculate, but I'm curious..... '' https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/readout-vice-presidents-call-u-s-cruise-industry/
  15. This comes directly from the Whitehouse briefings of yesterdays meeting. The yellow highlighted portion is being reported in multiple sources this morning. Anyone care to speculate what would be involved in a "Backstop"?? I know all we can do here is speculate, but I'm curious..... '' https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/readout-vice-presidents-call-u-s-cruise-industry/ '
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