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mayleeman

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    Columbia, SC
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    DIY home renov, gardening & piano (wife), reading, photoshop, swimming, Jayhawks
  • Favorite Cruise Line(s)
    Celebrity
  • Favorite Cruise Destination Or Port of Call
    Caribbean

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  1. The current surge in cases is attributable to a large degree to simple human impatience. People are tired of masks and restrictions, so they decide to stop doing those things or to disregard the risks as they experience the costs and consequences and inconveniences. An analogy would be to watch people waiting to cross a busy street when a crossing light is either not working or just set to a long delay. Some people will wait patiently until the "Walk" signal occurs, no matter how long, or if it is broken only cross when there are no cars coming. But some others who get tired of waiting will decide to engage in riskier behavior by going out into traffic that they normally would not enter. Impatience is not a scientific principle, so it makes no sense to base any medical strategy upon it.
  2. Gosh, and those idiots who worked in coal mines or built factories using asbestos insulation they weren't told was dangerous, or the suckers who went to Vietnam and got exposed to Agent Orange. Or people fighting respiratory infections in Houston or Katrina from mold. None of those people are fit, so they should just suck it up when they have severe or fatal responses to Covid. Who are these irresponsible people, anyway? Rallying cry: Let the herd barhop, darn it! Stragglers, fall out like you deserve! Sheesh....
  3. Basically, the GBD, as urged here by the OP and others, does depend on a belief in eugenics: if Covid is not a major threat to fit people with no underlying health conditions, then it is an acceptable risk to allow it to run through the population until herd immunity is reached. After all, unfit people and unhealthy people must accept their "personal responsibility" for any heightened risks they face from Covid. "Innocent fit people should not be punished due to governments trying to protect" the foolishly vulnerable. This can be simplified to: some people just aren't worth protecting. In other words, let's just stop any effort to be a moral modern civilization. The Nazis likewise justified their extermination camps as weeding out the impure. Got it. Where is the open-source "GBD is evil trash" for for me to sign?
  4. Seems to me if all the security, limited access, protocols and constant testing in the White House couldn't protect the President and FLady, the prospects for a highly crowded environment like a cruise ship to successfully avoid a breakout seem quite remote.
  5. It is hard to address, though, isn't it? Retesting seems the most responsible avenue. No test is 100% accurate, but there are also people who wouldn't believe the reported results even if a test was confirmed by labs to be 100%. Look at how many people think the earth is flat. Or that wearing a mask is part of a plot. Or that they are able to safely drive after a few.
  6. Favorite place in the world! As peaceful as cruising--for both, once you get away from loud crowds...
  7. Then those of us who like safer travel, and who do not trust travel companies who break their promises to provide safety measures, will do other things. I am not saying they have to please me above all others. If other cruisers go and enjoy the experience despite what I see as an untenably dangerous environment, so be it. I just won't spend my money there. My car is wonderful, and it is time to visit the Snake River among hundreds of other (inland) destinations.
  8. Good point. The early panics about transmission from touching (that led to Clorox wipes and paper towel shortages, among other things) was due to the early reports from hospitals and nursing homes where the virus was being expelled in procedures and resulted in high concentrations on surfaces that were touched repeatedly by the same people. Few people are recommending wiping down grocery bags and food items (but it makes good sense anyway in flu season to wash hands frequently). Caution in general is a good idea!
  9. I guess recognizing facetiousness is a lost art. Did you not realize I was ridiculing the concept of not protecting cruisers? Please read @Fouremco's reply: he gets it....
  10. Okay, I get it--vacationers do not deserve protection because leisure activity is unnecessary. I wonder if the crew is deserving of protection. I mean, their support of their families, their very livelihood...yes? But it is a job catering to that unnecessary leisure enjoyment, so...no? Yikes, how silly! I think if cruises restart, we will be able expect the crew to follow protocols not just for our benefit but for their own. I fully expect a crew member disregarding the rules will be disembarked at the next port. Safety is not optional for a virus that has a disproportionate impact on a disproportionately high segment of experienced cruisers.
  11. You might want to check who I was responding to....the person insisting it is .03% rather than 3%, meaning the cases would have to be 100 times what they actually are to arrive at our current 200,000 deaths.
  12. I don't get the "then stay home" comments. People are saying that if cruising starts with mandated safety requirements, they would go only if the crew enforces them and require passengers to comply. What the heck is overly concerned about that?
  13. So, 199,000 known deaths in the US must mean that there have been 663 million cases here? Interesting math....
  14. And, of course, any vaccine dose is 100% ineffective for people refusing to take it!
  15. The need for a large sample, plus ensuring it covers the demographic variables you mentioned, seems to me to be a huge obstacle to fast-tracking.
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