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  1. Masks didn't prevent covid on the ships. The number of cases remains controversial with the CLIA claiming 50 cases but cruise critics claiming otherwise. https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2021/05/articles/disease/cruise-lines-claim-that-cruising-in-europe-and-asia-has-no-or-only-limited-transmission-of-covid-19-not-an-equivalent-comparison-to-the-u-s/
  2. That's more of a choice to cruise or not to cruise for many. I doubt many will want to cruise with masks and those that do will be complaining the entire cruise about those who are wearing their masks wrong or not at all. 2020 all over again. You'd have to be nuts to pay a bunch of money to put up with that proposition/drama. Cruising is cool but not that cool.
  3. I never claimed that, only that ignorance is bliss. A few asymptomatic cases are a nothing burger if nearly everyone is vaccinated. Most people aren't going to go running to medical for the sniffles or a headache either and ruin their trip. The only real threat is to people who probably shouldn't be risking a cruise anyway (medically vulnerable/fragile). There would be a lot less testing if all passengers were vaccinated and ignorance would, indeed, be bliss.
  4. Indeed it is! Vaccinated asymptomatic cases aren't really a problem. If everyone was vaccinated there would only need to be testing if someone presented with symptoms to medical staff. Even minor stuff can be dealt with with OTC meds and keep the vacay going!
  5. I doubt they'll have a mask rule in Mexico and staying onboard the second go round will be great. We stayed on board at two of the three ports and it was very enjoyable and the ship was empty. All the ports are interesting and have a lot to do so most people get off. I was actually able to swim laps in the main pool it was so empty. My youngest son loved the water slides to, he must have went on them 100+ times, all the staff knew his name since we spent so much time there. You'll have the best of both by doing it the way you are doing it. Have a great trip!
  6. Yup, just got back from camping at a large lake in CA and chose that specifically because we wouldn't have to wear masks and deal with any nonsense and different rules at different times. Didn't see a single mask, even in the very crowded town village that serves the area and campgrounds. Just a lot of happy folks going about their business and enjoying nature and the water. We would have chosen one of the beach areas we like but the mask nonsense/uncertainty made the choice for us.
  7. Different strokes for different folks. I would totally sail on even a fantasy class ship. As long as it is clean and offers the same base general product, I have zero problems and the value potential is much higher. Some of the rates I see people tossing around for this new ship hardly seem like a value proposition compared to AI options and even a general land vacation at some of the higher price points. Most folks are lounging around eating and drinking basically while cruising. The same limitations and benefits of cruising don't really change enough for me to drop a large amount more on a cruise. All the things I truly enjoy about cruising are available on any of the class of ships. If I can get them cheaper on a older ship, even better! A lot of the shiny things that others are excited about won't really add to my cruising enjoyment or improve my value-to-cost ratio.
  8. I would too. I'm good on wearing a mask. No thanks. I wouldn't cruise with one on board either. I'd rather not go.
  9. If someone where to interject themselves into your life and make sweeping judgments about you and your free choices, I suspect you would feel some kind of way too. I'm pretty sure most people couldn't care less what some stranger thinks about their choices/decisions and never asked them in the first place, yet that doesn't stop the rude behavior and audacity. The view from that high horse must be spectacular!
  10. When you're bullied, berated, talked down to, lectured etc, you tend to adopt methods of avoidance. Just ask the unvaccinated, they are treated similar for their personal choices. I expect many of them to simply say they are vaccinated and/or avoid the topic in real life conversation(s) as well. Just as folks who may enjoy a smoke do. People learn to take the path of least resistance/irritation/judgment. I wouldn't call that a character disorder, more like an environmental adaptation.
  11. For a fee or for free? I was told any changes would incur a fee, even an upgrade (self initiated). Are these free upgrades you're referring to Carnival initiated upgrades or you deciding you want a better cabin and calling in?
  12. I'm sure most drinkers will report that they drink only two alcoholic drinks for men and one for women, in one sitting, if you asked in a survey. Or that they all ate healthy "most of the time" and/or exercised regularly too. 🙄
  13. The reality: "Current smokers are defined as people who reported smoking at least 100 cigarettes during their lifetime and who, at the time they participated in a survey about this topic, reported smoking every day or some days."
  14. The problem is Dr. Fauci said this “The chances of it being 98% effective is not great, which means you must never abandon the public health approach.” back in Aug 2020. The never abandon the public health approach is alarming, especially with vaccination rates so low. I thought we'd be much higher by now. It was looking like some light at the end of the tunnel and there was some palpable energy for getting things back to "normal" but now the tunnel is dark once again as we circle back around again and rehash the same problems, drama and restrictions. So frustrating. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/coronavirus-vaccine-dr-fauci-says-chances-of-it-being-highly-effective-is-not-great.html He also recently said it probably wouldn't end in his lifetime. "I think within the immediate future and within our future, I would say within my lifetime, it would likely is not going to all of a sudden piddle out and be the common cold." https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/21/first-on-cnbc-cnbc-transcript-dr-anthony-fauci-speaks-with-cnbcs-closing-bell-today.html
  15. Wow! What a story deweytrader! Thank you very much for taking the time to share your experience and the procedures. This was very informative and I hope everything works out for you as quickly as possible and you and your family get home safely.
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