mtrancher

It certainly is not the last cabin before the ones that open to the back. It might be considered in the aft third of the ship, but it's in the forward section of that third. Glad to hear the concierge did everything they could and I guess if the ship was full than that's the reason for the lack of options. You didn't lose your Haven privileges did you? You retained full use of the concierge and butler and Haven courtyard?

You are a dear!

We had the premium plus on the Bliss. Several bottles were available under the package. They made it clear very early the bottle could not be removed from the restaurant. We discovered some selective enforcement, but that came when the restaurant was closing and we had just ordered another bottle. Other than the bottles not being allowed to be removed from the restaurant, we really didn't notice any other downgrade on the P+ package.

I agree with sporadic enforcement. We recently came off the Bliss and a few doors were decorated discretely. The decorations lasted all 15 days.

?? Room 14514 on the NCL Jade is NOT a Haven Aft Cabin. It's a Haven Courtyard Penthouse with Balcony. The Jade does not have any Haven Aft Penthouses. Sorry to hear of your issues. I was going to ask if the Concierge helped at all, but I'm curious how you felt you were in an aft cabin when clearly you were in a side balcony cabin. It's hard to confuse the two.

So last week I dug a little deeper into your issue of the room being smaller and the deck being smaller. I hesitated to bring numbers into the equation but hope these may ease your mind on what you are receiving. From your 1st post you said you booked a Haven Aft Facing Penthouse with Master Bedroom and Large Balcony and are now re-booked into a Getaway Haven Aft Facing Suite. Here is the square footage of each Suite and Balcony: State room Balcony Viva 550 175 Getaway 700 266 The Getaway suite was for the regular Haven aft balconies and not the 'large' Haven aft balconies. NCL gives a range so I just averaged the numbers. So it would appear on your re-booking you are receiving a larger cabin than originally booked and a larger deck than originally booked. The word 'large' in the Vivi description does not match to the use when describing the Getaway cabins. Now of course none of this changes your discussions with customer service nor their perceived treatment of you. But, it just might rest you mind to know you will be able to enjoy a larger room and larger deck than originally booked. Enjoy the win!

Because I'm familiar with NCL and it works for me. My 1st cruise with NCL was on the Star in 2000. I booked a room below the sun deck so we wouldn't have to use the elevators. I did not realize it came with concierge services (we had a partially obstructed port window, so not a fancy room). Our concierge was fabulous and made the trip for us. At that point I realized I the value of extra services and have always booked rooms with concierges. Then the Haven came along and it offers a lot more. They continue to improve the service and I think the price is increasing as well. Having the Haven allows us to participate in far more activities without having to plan ahead as much. The atmosphere of the ship is likely younger and NCL ships have a lot of different activities; enough to keep us busy. Finally because the Haven is a subset you do get special treatment which I think may be negated on a luxury liner. We rarely stand in a line and do get priority for tickets. Since a luxury liner offers it all to all their guests, I wonder if lines can albeit short can be more prevalent. I suppose at one point, such as what you are facing the cost of a true luxury liner will be the same for an itinerary for which I am interested. And it's likely I will take the plunge and give it a try, but I think that's a couple years down the road for me. Good luck on your choice, I suspect your vacation will be fantastic regardless of which choice you make; after all getting aboard a ship and having a staff work to make your days perfect is always enjoyable regardless of what name is on the ship!

Thanks for your response. My question stems from many posters saying the vibrations were excessive on the Joy over other ships. As a members have posted there are several reasons for vibration and no two ships are the same. With the Joy it appeared perhaps some of those reasons were more prevalent. We have stayed in a Haven Aft Cabin on both the Bliss and the Getaway and love them. The distance to Haven facilities is well known ahead of time and while I agree with you some may not like the distance, we have never found it to hinder our use of the bar, pool, hot tubs and restaurant. After posting my question I do see the Joy is scheduled to be refurbished in dry dock in early 2024. My guess is if something, likely with the props is causing excessive vibration than it will be addressed then. Our cruise is currently booked after the refurbishment so my concern is somewhat diminished.

Wondering if this issue was addressed during the covid shutdown?

Has anyone been on the Joy in a Haven Aft cabin and NOT experienced the excessive vibration?

On the Getaway the difference in the deck size of the Haven aft cabins in minimal. We were in a 'regular' Haven aft cabin on deck 14. We had a party of all those cruising with us and had 14 people out on the deck. Plenty of room. NCL gave you three options, you chose to go on the Getaway, and the Getaway does not have perfectly equivalent cabins to the Viva. If you chose, your vacation does not have to be negatively impacted at all. You will have a very large balcony, by comparison to others, and if there are only four or five of you; the balcony will easily accommodate lounging, dining and sightseeing. Hope the birthday celebration goes well.

You could not have read my post more wrong. Common courtesy to fellow cruisers by NOT being a chair hog. Common courtesy by NOT straddling two parking spaces. Common Courtesy by NOT cutting in line. Common courtesy by Not claiming entire rows in the theater. Common courtesy to read a post within context of the conversation before going off shift.

Not arguing, but what a shame common courtesy to your fellow cruisers has to be likely replaced with either technology or patrols.

It sounds as if they haven't really been enforcing check-in times lately so perhaps they just decided to do away with the time slots.