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  1. You need to let RCL know (when you get on board) that you'll need a PCR test on disembarkation. It is included, but it takes longer for them to do than just an antigen test. They will contact you 1-2 days prior to docking to schedule it with you.
  2. The reason is; that the CDC approval of mixed vaccines is basically a footnote; Using the above strategies, every effort should be made to determine which vaccine product was received as the first dose to ensure completion of the vaccine series with the same product. In exceptional situations in which the mRNA vaccine product given for the first dose cannot be determined or is no longer available, any available mRNA COVID-19 vaccine may be administered at a minimum interval of 28 days between doses to complete the mRNA COVID-19 vaccination series. In situations where the same mRNA vaccine product is temporarily unavailable, it is preferable to delay the second dose to receive the same product than to receive a mixed series using a different product. If two doses of different mRNA COVID-19 vaccine products are administered in these situations (or inadvertently), no additional doses of either product are recommended at this time. Such persons are considered fully vaccinated against COVID-19 ≥2 weeks after receipt of the second dose of an mRNA vaccine. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/covid-19-vaccines-us.html
  3. Given the guidance that the CDC are giving the cruise lines is that an mRNA mix is OK. "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has clarified their position regarding mixed vaccinations..." I think you'll be OK. What we need is a proper announcement from the CDC
  4. Not sure what line you're on, but this is Royal/Celebrity's wording, which is pretty clear on a mixed Pfizer/Moderna being OK: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has clarified their position regarding mixed vaccinations and provided Celebrity Cruises with updated guidance. For sailings departing from the US, the CDC will now recognize a mixed combination of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (Pfizer/Moderna) as fully vaccinated. If a guest has already received two mRNA vaccines in mixed series at a minimum interval of 28 days, the CDC will consider that individual to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19. https://www.celebritycruises.com/healthy-at-sea/faqs
  5. OK, Further reading... On the [late] afternoon of Friday Oct 8th the CDC talked to the press (however I can't find an official press release), saying; A CDC spokeswoman told Reuters Friday, “Six vaccines that are FDA authorized/approved or listed for emergency use by WHO will meet the criteria for travel to the U.S.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-travel-vaccines-idAFKBN2GY2DJ By saying six (and not seven), they're implying that they consider AZD1222 manufactured by Oxford/AstraZeneca called Vaxzevria, and; AZD1222 manufactured by Serum Institute of India (SII) called Covishield; to be the same thing. However, a single sentence confirming that, from damn near anyone would make me a lot happier right now
  6. Yes, some places (the site you've linked above is McGill University in Montreal https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/agency/who/ ) call it seven, some (US CDC https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/covid-19-vaccines-us.html) call it six. As of August 31, 2021, WHO has listed the following COVID-19 vaccines for emergency use: Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines (e.g., COMIRNATY, Tozinameran) AstraZeneca-Oxford COVID-19 vaccines (e.g., Covishield, Vaxzevria) Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 vaccine Moderna COVID-19 vaccine Sinopharm BIBP COVID-19 vaccine Sinovac-CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine Given the Cruise lines have to follow CDC guidelines (who consider two of the WHO vaccines the same), and not WHO directly, I'm hopeful
  7. The only way her wording makes sense is if there's a + or & missing Two (Astra Zeneca) Two (Astra Zeneca + Covishield) Two (Covishield) I'll call again tomorrow and get yet further clarification. I do have an email from Celebrity confirming that they consider them one and the same.
  8. This website https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/ (run my McGill) shows which vaccines have been approved for domestic use in which country; which is quite a different thing than what is approved by that country for "You are vaccinated". For example, the US CDC approve the 'WHO 6' (Moderna, Pfizer, AZ/Covishield, Jannsen, SinoVac, SinoPharm), for "You are Vaccinated"; however the USA FDA only approve three (not AZ,SinoVac,SinoPharm) for domestic use. Most countries approve the 'WHO 6" however there are some oddities. For example, St Lucia doesn't approve Sinovac, but does approve Sputnik V, Abdala and Covaxin. I know there are a couple of European countries still waffling on SII/Covishield vs AZ, but that will change quickly I think. However, it's relatively easy to visit the countries website for entrance requirements.
  9. At this point in time I have documentation from Celebrity that for US departures they consider AZD1222 vaccines from SII(Covishield) as identical to OxfordAstraZeneca(Vaxzevria); and someone with one of each would be considered fully vaccinated. I would expect other RCL owned cruise lines to be the same.
  10. AstraZeneca is CDC approved (by way of its WHO approval) its just not FDA approved to use on Americans in the USA. The only thing that will be a likely stumbling block for US entry is AZ+ mRNA.
  11. All six WHO approved vaccines (Pfizer,Moderna,Janssen,AZ,Sinopharm,SinoVac) are approved by the CDC as 'Vaccinated'. Only three of them have been approved to administer in the United States; a subtle but important difference. What hasn't yet been approved by the CDC is a mix of AZ+(Moderna/Pfizer); which is relatively common in Canada, Germany and a few other countries. There is a footnote in the CDC approvals saying that a Moderna/Pfizer mix is considered 'fully vaccinated and no additional doses are required', although cruiselines have been inconsistent in their interpretation of this footnote.
  12. Not entirely. Buried in the original reporting is that the new regulations would replace all of the patchwork of separate orders for each country/group of countries that exist now ...relaxing a patchwork of bans that had begun to cause fury in Europe and replacing them with more uniform requirements for inbound international air passengers...[CNN] I would read into that, that Canada, Europe, UK would all be treated similarly; and I would expect the US/Can land border to open in early November
  13. Two doses of any of the six WHO approved vaccine are acceptable to the CDC. IN addition, I have written confirmation from =X= that they consider "SII Covishield" and "Astra Zeneca" as interchangeable (they're the same AZD1222 vaccine from different manufacturing plants). Pzifer Moderna Astra Zeneca/Covisheild Janssen (J&J) Sinopharm Sincovac It's just that the us FDA have not approved 3 of the 6 vaccines for US domestic use.
  14. Instead of calling it "Mazda sports car" they're now saying "Miata / MX-5". What exactly is the problem? The manufacturer and the name of the vaccine are, and always have been different things. Pfizer is the manufacturer, and Comirnaty is their Covid-19 vaccine (specifically their BNT162b2 vaccine). This would be the 'clowns' doing exactly the right thing to clarify exactly what they're talking about. There may be plenty of things to gripe about with various health agencies, but this certainly isn't one of them. It also helps remove confusion when you're talking about two different manufacturers that manufacture the same vaccine
  15. I can't find an antigen for under $130 in BC Hello, shoppers, please?......
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