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  1. This is what deters me from the drinks package too. Our total spend per day is at or slightly above the drinks package but only because we sometimes prefer finer wines and spirits that aren't on the package. If I parse out the good stuff the drinks package wouldn't make economic sense. The other aspect of the drinks package is that it is an incentive to consume more than you might otherwise to make it worthwhile or to tolerate lesser brands. I'd rather drink what I want when I want instead of tossing them back just to meet a "quota."
  2. The link I posted above leads to an article quoting a British professor of Health Protection regarding the challenges faced during the quarantine. To ensure the safety of their own citizens the Japanese enforced an absolute quarantine of the ship even though it would contribute to spreading the virus among passengers and crew. There is no evidence they considered another alternative. Meanwhile, Canada and the United States seemed to be able to locate secure quarantine facilities for their returning citizens. The people I feel for most are the crew. They were required to work, deliver food, etc. with little more than masks instead of better bio-security equipment. At CFB Trenton, for example, staff interacting with detainees are wearing Hazmat suits. https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/my-room-is-sanitized-daily-by-people-in-hazmat-suits-life-in-canada-under-coronavirus-quarantine/
  3. I've never been treated with anything other than professionalism on my many trips to the the UK and most of the time going into the US. In fairness to the Americans I am back and forth often so the odds of getting the occasional jerk is much higher. Acquiring Nexus a few years ago was a definite improvement.
  4. Japanese health authorities are certainly doing the best they can to prevent the spread of the virus to their own people even if it means keeping the passengers and crew in a less than optimum environment to reduce the spread of the virus. There is nothing to suggest the Japanese considered any alternatives. Already there are questions being asked whether the on-board quarantine was the right decision. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/19/national/science-health/quarantine-cruise-ship-yokohama-comes-question-hit-virus-incubator/#.Xk82AShKiUk
  5. I've run into these procedures a couple of times. The cruise line will provide you with your passport if you request it for shore visits.
  6. I don't blame Princess and don't expect them to have expertise in managing a quarantine. The Japanese gave them no other choice but to keep everyone on the ship providing opportunity for the virus to spread unchecked among passengers and crew.
  7. The Japanese did not quarantine the ship to protect the passengers or crew. They quarantined the ship to protect the Japanese.
  8. It would be good to know the specific details of this thread. I would not feel compelled to tell the cruise line that I no longer had possession of my passport. Your anecdote would not change my current practices.
  9. https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-20-20-intl-hnk/h_b534e7c687ea891487b919bb0342caeb
  10. I carry my passport when in a foreign country. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I have more confidence in my ability to carry it securely than the cruise line living up to its commitment to leave it should they depart without me. Even if they do I would still have to get back to the port and locate the agent to retrieve my documents which in an emergency situation may be difficult or impossible. In the highly unlikely event I lose my passport I can return to the boat and continue on the cruise while I sort out the issue in relative comfort as opposed to being stranded without documents in a foreign land. I keep a copy of my passport in the cabin and a PDF on my phone.
  11. Were it racism all Chinese would be banned. It is not racism because the ban is based on the individual's passport not his/her race. A Caucasian with a Chinese passport would be banned. A person of Chinese origins with a non-Chinese passport would be welcomed aboard.
  12. Many governments don't recognize dual citizens but it doesn't mean they don't exist. There are tens of thousands of Chinese citizens that also hold Canadian citizenship. When they go to China they use their Chinese passports. When they travel elsewhere they can use their Canadian passport. Had the woman in the original post attained Canadian citizenship and had a second passport the cruise company would have been none the wiser and she would have been able to go on the cruise. This is why the cruise line policy is certainly discriminatory but not racist.
  13. It was a very successful quarantine if the objective was to contain the virus in one place and not have it spread to Japan. The Japanese authorities were quite successful in protecting Japanese civilians at the expense of the hapless cruisers and crew on the boat.
  14. Handcuffs are not coming into play for Canadian passengers who were on the Westerdam. They are being encouraged to "self-isolate." https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/westerdam-cruise-canadians-return-home-1.5466131 For a Canadian on the Diamond Princess once the Japanese health officials give you the all-clear you would be free to go. Cab to the airport, flight home, no mandatory quarantine unlike the people who take the government charter. A free flight from Tokyo is not worth being banged up in the Nav Canada Centre in Cornwall for two weeks.
  15. This is great advice that I hope everyone follows as it means there will be last-minute clearouts on desirable cruises for those of us who are not panicked by coronavirus.
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