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  1. Emphasis added: https://www.princesscruises.de/en/holiday-princess/important-information/dress-code/2468 "There are two recommendations for evenings and dinners: Smart Casual: Dress the same way you would do for a visit to a restaurant at home. Skirts, dresses or trousers with t-shirt or blouse for ladies, trousers and shirt or poloshirt for gentlemen. Shorts and swimwear are not allowed in the restaurant. Formal: Evening gown, cocktail dress or pantsuits for ladies, suit, combination or dinner jackets for gentlemen."
  2. Anyone whose enjoyment of a cruise is grievously compromised because not everyone in the MDR is in a jacket and tie on fancy pants and sparkly dress night can select a line that rigorously enforces a dress code.
  3. Sorry to shatter your illusions but I travel with my spouse and occasionally with friends and family. The Princess dress code specifically states "shorts and swimwear" are not allowed in the restaurants. What remains are "recommendations" for the "enjoyment of all our guests." My interest in the "enjoyment" of complete strangers is considerably less than my interest than not having to check luggage on an airplane.
  4. The closest UK parallel would be Harvest Festival. Thanksgiving has its history in the early settlers of America and it is a much bigger deal in the U.S. than here in Canada. In the U.S. the holiday is celebrated on the fourth Thursday in November while in Canada it's on the second Monday in October.
  5. My selection of attire is based on my planned activities during the cruise without needing to check bags. I do not pack and check an extra bag merely to satisfy the small remaining cruisers who want to play dress up at dinner. Perhaps Cunard would be more suitable for your refined tastes and aspirations of elegance?
  6. Not really. Princess is quite tolerant. My cargo pants, collared shirt and hiking boots did not result in being barred from the MDR on prom night. About half of the dining room was similarly attired.
  7. Too often the people raising these subjects are either proselytizing or campaigning. I've made my decisions on both subjects quite some time ago and have no interest in being subjected to someone else's harangue particularly at breakfast.
  8. I'm hardly a member of the upper crust but have attended performances at the Royal Opera House in Covent Garden and depending on the performance seats can be purchased for as little as £5 or about the price of a pint in Central London. And fancy trousers and sparkly dresses are not required at the ROH. "There is no dress code – feel free to dress up or down." https://www.roh.org.uk/visit/attending-a-performance
  9. I am meeting the standard as defined in the "advertised experience." My rattiest jacket is hardly a rag just an older tweed that has provided good service on English shoots but is showing wear and may have a feather or two still tucked in it. My most gruesome tie is not offensive but it is quite loud. Standards met. My comments were in response to a hypothetical situation. Among the benefits of this forum is learning which lines entice prospective customers with promises of Ritz-level elegance only to provide an Olive Garden experience in the MDR. Outside of the hypothetical question, cruisers can rest comfortably that my ratty jacket and gruesome tie will not be making an MDR appearance and my carry-on only status will remain intact.
  10. No insinuations were made while addressing the hypothetical question. Nor have I criticized anyone's spelling, reproached their word choices, accused them of having a chip on their shoulders or called them "downright rude" for bemoaning the inexorable and much appreciated easing of dress standards on cruise ships. If I'm dismissive of anything it is the charade of fancy pants and sparky dress night on mass market cruises but certainly have nothing bad to say about the people who embrace the practice providing they don't insist I dress up too or insult me if I don't.
  11. Conversely, those who don't immediately submit to the cruise line suggestions of how to dress have been accused of being "downright rude" (post 93,) accused of having a chip on their shoulder, ordered to improve their spelling (post 108,) and rebuked for using the word "boat" (post 108.) Or did you forget your own posts? I'm not moaning and groaning about the cruise line requests. I am ignoring them. So are the cruise lines for the most part.
  12. I don't cruise just to float on a boat but to achieve a specific travel objective where cruising makes sense so would choose a different line if I could match the itinerary. If a different line were not possible I'd consider the the option of not eating in the MDR and acquire my sustenance in more tolerable circumstances. Absent that option I'd first test the line to see if I were actually denied entrance to the MDR. If they did I'd return from my cabin a few minutes later wearing my rattiest jacket and most gruesome necktie.
  13. None of us get to decide what is acceptable. That is a decision of the people who are in charge of the boat. The cruise lines are quite clear in their literature about what is suggested/requested/recommended. They are also clear about which items are prohibited. If there is hypocrisy it rests with the corporations. They entice with glamorous pictures of formal wear suitable for the Ritz Restaurant and Terrace in London when the reality is they will tolerate attire similar to that found in an Olive Garden in Buffalo.
  14. I was turned off by the grand "traditions" of cruising that were still more in vogue at the time such as adults waving napkins over their heads while waiters marched in a flaming dessert and other similar silliness. What brought me back was a search for the midnight sun and after 14 years took an Alaskan cruise in the summer and found it quite tolerable because the formal dress requirements had largely been dropped and we did not have to endure dining at a table of complete strangers. This was followed by a re-positioning cruise from Europe to North America that stopped in Iceland for two days which was more than sufficient to see the place. Even today I will take a land visit over a cruise most of the time but there are circumstances where a cruise is the best option to get to a place I want to visit. Antarctica is definitely in my future plans, the Caribbean not a chance.
  15. Excuse to do what? There is no need for an "excuse" not to dress as you did at your high school prom while dining on a cruise ship if the people who are in charge of the boat do not object or deny entrance.
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