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  1. Well, if it does, then debating the restart dates for cruising will be the least of anyone's concerns.
  2. And now Viking has suspended through the end of the year. (12/31 as opposed to 12/15).
  3. But what is the reason? Demonstrably greater negligence than other cruise lines? Willful disregard for the health and safety of the passengers and crew? Or was it geography? Of course Diamond (in and around China when China was ground zero) had more cases than a ship sailing around Ecuador and Chile. And the vicious spread was largely the result of keeping the infection on the ship and not letting people get off. Immediate evacuation of the ship would have driven Diamond's numbers way down, (while driving the on-shore numbers way up.) Was any of this the doing of Princess in a way that other cruise lines did it better, or would have done it better had their ship just sailed out of China? By the time other ships detected a problem on board, more effective protocols were in place that kept the numbers down. Nursing homes that were hit early fared far worse than nursing homes that are getting hit now. Were the early nursing homes more culpable, or just less aware and prepared for the situation they faced? I don't know that I trust PCL any more, or any less than any other cruise line. Which brings me to The OP's question. I think there are two levels of safety in our future. The first is when Covid-19 is "well-managed" (and you can insert your own definition of what that means.) In other words, the virus will be in our midst, but certain measures and strategies will be in place to decrease the risk of contraction. We are seeing that with airlines and Disney parks. I believe that the cruise industry will begin to sail when we reach a level of "well-managed" that satisfies a sufficient number of people. But using Disney as an example, they are operating at around 30% capacity because that is one of the major "well-managed" strategies that they can employ to keep people safe and get people accustomed to returning to the fold. But the cruise industry cannot operate on 30% capacity. So I don't know what "well-managed" is going to look like for cruising. But I guarantee that cruising will begin again at some point in time when defensive strategies will be necessary and employed such as masks, theater shows with one-third seating capacity, no Tables of 8 comprised of strangers, etc. The second level of safety is when Covid-19 is simply no longer a thing. When it is eradicated in the way that the Spanish Flu was, or small pox, or polio, or Swine Flu. I have no idea what will cause that to happen, (herd immunity after the 50,000,000 most vulnerable people die? An effective vaccine?) or when it will happen. But it will happen. I do not believe that the human race is sentenced to social distancing with masks for the next 5,000 years. Something is going to change. And when that comes to pass, we will be back to the way things were in 2019 (with perhaps a greater appreciation for sanitation and cleanliness.) I do not see myself getting back on a ship until we are at the second level of safety. But when we do achieve that state, I will definitely cruise again, and would consider PCL in exactly the same way I considered them for my last cruise in 2019.
  4. I find it difficult to believe that PCL extended their pause until 12/15 without knowing that all others were going to follow suit. It is far more likely that all cruise lines will align with PCL than it is that the other cruise lines start cruising in November leaving PCL in their wake. But yes, that is my opinion and you need not share it.
  5. Hapuna Matata is a wonderful phrase...if you have no worries in Hawaii. 😁
  6. Thanks for the photos. Honestly, in looking at the Mains, there is nothing there that I would pay $29 for. The vegetables served with the 3 ounces of scallops look like they came from a school lunch program. Seriously. That is what the galley prepares as a side? Birds-Eye frozen medley? And the steak looks like an MDR steak served with "Potatoes a la Afterthought."
  7. What this tells me is that U.S. citizens are a loooooong ways away from stepping foot on a cruise ship. Especially when the primary ports of departure are in FL and CA. The "solution", (if you will), is not policies and procedures that cruise lines can implement to assist in making cruising safer. The "solution" comes when Covid-19 is eradicated the way polio was. Cruising attracts those who are most at risk. According to CLIA, the average age is just under 50, and 51% of all cruisers are 50 or over. Trying to make adjustments for refunds, medical center visits, testing, etc. is never going to change the fact that an outbreak on a cruise ship will be far more devastating than an outbreak almost anywhere else, other than a nursing home. The cruise industry in general, and Princess in particular (after Diamond and Ruby headlines), is one outbreak away from extinction. They cannot afford to fail a second time. There is simply no margin for error here. Major League Baseball can shut down a second time, (and it may well happen with today's news) and still bounce back in the future. But if the cruise industry re-opens and is then forced to shut down a second time, it's over. O.V.E.R.
  8. I doubt that the wine has been removed from the ships as long as the ships continue to be occupied and have whatever power is necessary for daily life onboard. The only reason to move the wine would be if all power were being cut off and the storage conditions would change. Moving all of the wine off of a ship is not worth the effort and there is far more risk of damage, loss and theft during the moving and re-stocking. Best to leave it be, as long as it can maintain a reasonable temperature. Remember that not all of the ships have been in Princess-controlled ports this whole time, and some have just been stationed wherever it was convenient for the time being. So it isn't as if Princess had a safe, secure, trustworthy (and perhaps most importantly) free place to store the wine. If they had to rent wine storage space for all that wine, it would be costly, assuming they could even find suitable storage in the first place. Bulk wine storage is kind of a niche market that you don't find everywhere. Now, for ships re-positioned at Port Everglades, they could probably find free, safe storage for their inventory if they wanted to. But the time, effort and risk of moving the wine still comes into play. Champagne in the refrigerator is a risk, but does not spell surefire doom. The issue is with the cork, and not the wine itself. (Wine can be frozen and thawed with no detectable loss of quality, though I don't recommend it beyond conducting an experiment. The wine might be fine. The bottles? Not so much.) But corks vary greatly. A really good, high quality cork can withstand a spell in the fridge and Dom is using high quality (expensive) corks that won't shrink too much from the lack of humidity in the refrigerator. But an $18 bottle of bubbly with a $0.12 cork? No telling how that might shrink in a dry environment. That said, even high quality corks can fail, so the fridge is usually not your best option for long term storage.
  9. I'm pretty much in the same place. My view on masks is NOT political whatsoever. I wear one routinely when I leave my house, but that is for life's necessities like going to the grocery store. When it comes to my company returning its employees back in to the office, or me going on a cruise, or me going to Disney World, I do not want to do any of those things if wearing a mask, or converting hallways into one-way streets, or wearing gloves, or scanning around in a 360 degree circle making sure my distancing is proper is part of the work-around solution. I can't really have fun if 70% of my waking hours is spent trying to comply with rules. And I'm not arguing against the rules. I get it. I agree with them. I just don't find them to be compatible with my vacation spending. I will wait until the rules are no longer needed. Rooting hard for the Oxford vaccine to be the solution!
  10. Frustrating? Sure. Ridiculous? Can't blame Princess. Right thing to do. We are not in a better place now than we were 3 months ago and PCL has nothing to do with that. They are reacting to the situation, not causing it.
  11. 1. That photo showed 6 people. There are 1,039 other crew members on board. 2. We don't know if those 6 on deck have tested negative. 3. Passengers with Inside Cabins are allowed out on deck for limited periods of time each day. I assume that the same would apply to crew members who are quarantined in their tiny quarters. 4. This could be a photo of quarantined crew members who are "enjoying" their fresh air allotment. Or it could be a photo of crew members who have been released from quarantined status. Or it could be a photo of crew members who were never subject to a quarantine protocol because no crew members were ever quarantined. Bottom line is that this photo in no way demonstrates what the situation with the crew is, one way or the other.
  12. Do we know this to be true? Obviously there are crew members who are out and about preparing and delivering food and maintaining the essential operations of the ship. (I assume, (or at least hope) that these people have tested negative.) But do we know for sure that "non-essential" crew members are not in quarantine? Not saying you are wrong. But I haven't heard or seen anything that addresses this so I can't cite to a source. Seems to me that the folks who work in the gift shop who could have come in contact with an infected person either on this cruise or the one before it have just as much reason and need to be quarantined as anyone else, and since no one is visiting the gift shops, why not initiate preventive measures. Of course, confining them to their quarters would be pretty much like putting someone in a prison cell. But I'm not sure what the alternative is. If I were in charge, I would test the crew members first, and get the sick ones off the ship and then allow the healthy ones to run the ship. But until they tested negative, they'd be quarantined same as the guests. While it is true that from a public relations standpoint, the "passengers come first." But in reality, if you want to nip this in the bud, it is the crew that has to be proven healthy as they are the "constants" that will come in contact with wave after wave of guests from now into the foreseeable future.
  13. The lifeboats are never lowered unless the crew is doing safety drills which isn’t common enough to worry about. Having the lifeboats directly below you is not an issue at all. Won’t ruin your view and won’t cause noise.
  14. There are differences between the 6 and the 6S. So it is possible for you both to be right.
  15. Is it just the app that is not working, or is it your Medallion as well? Can your open your cabin door and tap in to charge things to your account?
  16. Of course it would be. I am talking about an actual emergency that comes out of the blue. It's not like the captain can notify the casino staff that there is going to be an emergency in 30 minutes and to please close the casino in advance of the pending problem.
  17. We have too. And all I could think the whole time we were there is: What if there were a real emergency that required people to go to that muster station? Would the people playing table games walk away from their chips/money and head to their own muster station? Would they refuse to budge, leaving no room for the people who are supposed to actually be there? Would people grab whatever chips they could (theirs or otherwise) and bolt for the exits? All in all, it seems like a horrible idea to have to gather there in the event of a bona fide, legitimate emergency.
  18. Ahhh. But there’s the rub. The OP seems confident that they have always and will always wait 35-40 minutes. But if the presentation sometimes begins 20 minutes after the advertised time, how can that be?
  19. If you arrive 35-40 minutes before it begins then you wait 35-40 minutes for it to start. If you arrive 20-25 minutes before it begins then you wait 20-25 minutes for it to start. If you arrive 5-10 minutes before it begins then you wait 5-10 minutes for it to start. See a pattern developing? Seems to me that there is a solution staring you in the face. While I agree that the art gallery is a silly place to muster, but if you know in advance that this is where you must go and you know that there are no seats, even for early arrivers, then there is no advantage to arriving early. If you feel that you must arrive early, try making a game of it and play “how many olives can we spot in the paintings“
  20. If I'm ever on a ship that vibrates, rolls, pitches and yaws enough to redistribute the thick, viscous soap from top to bottom of a pump dispenser, then the choice of soap provided to me will be the least of my concerns. I'd be checking the quality of my life vest and pulling out the barf bags! 😁
  21. It does seem expensive to me, but I have never questioned how they arrived at the price point. It is a pretty easy metric for Princess to run to see how much each guest spends on drinks and what Princess's break-even point is. (And remember that their goal is not to break even.) What bothers me is how they are using the package as the most frequent carrot in their sales, and if you aren't interested in a"free" beverage package, then it is difficult to tease out any sort of discount. The cruises with "free" beverage packages tend to be priced at or close to msrp so if you don't derive any benefit from the beverage package, you are left with nothing. Granted, throwing in the beverage package is not "nothing", but only if you use it. But rest assured that the people who go to the "Friends of Bill W" meetings aren't really getting any benefit from that sort of sale.
  22. To be fair, "That's the way they are making them now" isn't the same as "That's why they're making like that now." Especially given that your conversation was taking place on the Sun Deck. He was of course correct. You'd never hit the water from "up here." But none of that really addresses the Promenade.
  23. Cite? I’ve heard dozens of reasons for the disappearance of promenades but never this one. Lifeboat placement. Revenue generation. But passengers falling overboard? Never heard this before. Presumably you have some industry literature to support this theory.
  24. Were diving into the realm of the ridiculous, but with sourdough, you knead the new batch such that the old completely integrates with the new. In a soap dispenser, the old will be at the bottom and given the laws of physics and the relative viscosity of soap, unless someone agitates the container vigorously, turning it end over end to mix the solution, the old soap on the bottom is always going to remain on the bottom until it gets used, which will happen. So unless you plan to "knead" your soap dispenser, the sourdough analogy is far from perfect. And in the end, what we are talking about is getting cooties from someone who has touched the soap dispenser, which, by definition, means that these people are washing their hands routinely. Your bigger concern should be coming into contact with places both within and outside of your cabin that have been touched by the many people who do NOT wash their hands after going to the bathroom. THAT is where your skeeve factor should be directed.
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