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  1. I am not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but the devil is in the details (which those "guidelines" are missing alot of details.) Ok, so say they are doing touchless temperature checks at dining facilities. Not intrusive you'll say, no problem. Now, let's think about how that would actually play out on a ship (details which are not outlined in the guidelines.) You are waiting to be seated at LaCucina. The passenger that steps up behind you FAILS the temperature screening. What happens? Does the Maitre D call Security? The Medical Department? Where do they put the person? What do they do with you and the others who were standing near the person? Do they take you to Medical, too? What about your dinner? Do they ask the person with the fever where they just came from? What if they came from the casino? Do they drag the fever person to the casino to point out where they were sitting so they can disinfect and clear the area? Do you cruise all week hoping your cabin phone doesn't ring advising you that your dinner waiter from last evening now has a fever or tested positive for Covid? What if you have an excursion planned that day? And so on and so on and so on. THAT is why I don't want to cruise until it is actually safe and none of these procedures are necessary. It would be disruptive and stressful and not a fun vacation.
  2. I actually never said that, or you misunderstood. That is actually not even my opinion. My opinion (hope) is that cruising wouldn't resume until it was actually safe - meaning no one would need masks or temperature checks or tests or anything like that. I certainly don't want to cruise under crazy restrictions (in fact, I wouldn't because if those restrictions are in place then that says that even the cruise line thinks there is risk.) My entire argument during all these weeks is against cruising TOO SOON and the crazy people who continue DENY the danger of Covid-19. That said, let me clarify again (for the 100th time) that I also don't believe in being locked in our houses with shades drawn peering out peepholes. I go out every day and live my life - but I wear a mask and observe social distancing. I think that's reasonable, but I still don't think it's safe or smart for there to be big crowds. On land or at sea. It's too much of a risk to spread the virus to many people at one time. I will also add that I am not a scared-y cat who never plans to cruise again . I now have TEN cruises booked between now and April 2022. I just booked another one today, in fact.
  3. When did I disagree with that? The only thing I commented on in relation to the announcement was that I wasn't convinced that NCL management encourages PCCs to tell the truth to customers.
  4. If you are asking what I think of the new protocols, the only one I see on that list that is "new" is the fogging of public spaces. Every other procedure on that list was in place on my March Bliss cruise.
  5. If it was in a huge font it must be true!
  6. Can you please elaborate on your statistics and math calculations? If you acknowledge that the number of cases is up due to reopening, what would lead you to conclude that they will come down next week or shortly? If you are trying to apply the theory.of "what goes up must come down", that is physics and doesn't work on communicable diseases.
  7. Well I certainly hope that's not it for "screening" -- temperature checks??? LOL Haven't we gone over this a million times? The Bliss sailing I was on when I had Covid-19 had temperature checks both at embarkation and disembarkation. My sailing had heightened cleaning and disinfecting and no self-serve buffets. I do admit it all did give me a false sense of security at the time, so it will probably trick a lot of people into thinking they will be safe. Also, I noticed in the video they showed footage of people getting swab tests during the "screening" section, but they didn't actually say that ships were testing passengers for Covid. Is that mandatory for all? On land when you get a Covid-19 test you have to quarantine until your test results come back so I wonder how that will work on a ship. And health questionnaires?? Well those are foolproof because people are always truthful on those! Nothing against these poor YouTubers who are understandably scrambling for content on their cruise channel during the cruise drought, but everything they said is conjecture and assumptions.
  8. By the same management that is being investigated for telling PCCs to tell customers that Covid was no big deal and wouldn't impact the islands because it was too hot? “The Coronavirus can only survive in cold temperatures, so the Caribbean is a fantastic choice for your next cruise” and “Scientists and medical professionals have confirmed that the warm weather of the spring will be the end of the Coronavirus.” https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/tourism-cruises/article241130246.html
  9. I beg to differ on this one. I cruise strictly on casino comps from multiple cruise lines. The comp offers lately are crazy!! Royal Caribbean, who never offers comps on holiday sailings, just offered me a Junior Suite with $500 free play for New Year's Eve (retail price on my confirmation shows $9,426) for $150 in port taxes. I have no idea what the cruise world will look like by then, but I booked it just in case we're back to "normal". (At no risk since if I cancel even up to date of sailing I get port taxes returned to me.) I booked the same offer with them for a February 2021 cruise, too! These are just a few examples of multiple offers received in the last two weeks. Cruise lines want players back BAD.
  10. While people are debating back and forth about the efficacy of masks, I thought I might as throw out there that most people I've seen using disinfectants are not using them effectively. Although Covid-19 isn't generally transmitted on surfaces, if it makes you feel better that surfaces are disinfected then you have to use chemicals in the proper way. No matter what the disinfectant, there is a "kill" or "contact" time that is needed for the surface to remain VISIBLY WET in order to kill the particular virus you are targeting. Wiping something down with a Clorox wipe doesn't help anything unless there is enough liquid on the wipe to keep the surface wet for FOUR SOLID minutes. I have seen people wipe down carts and surfaces in grocery stores and immediately touch them afterwards. Sorry, not disinfected. (Here's the data on kill time for Clorox wipes directly from the Clorox website - but every brand of disinfect it has its own kill time.
  11. I was tested at PNC in March and I didn't have a fever. I did have a doctor's prescription, but I also had a letter from NCL advising their had been a confirmed Covid-19 case on the 3/1 Bliss sailing (and I also brought a copy of my boarding pass from my cruise.) So even without a fever they did test me (btw they were not taking temperatures there, so I'm not sure how they would know whether someone had a fever or not.) At that time they had nurses doing the swab tests, now PNC is self-swab.
  12. I'm not sure how confident I feel in the current antibody tests. They are saying there are so many false negatives. Did you ever get a Covid-19 test? My cruise got back to NYC on March 15th. I had three positive Covid tests over the next 6 weeks, and finally got my negative two weeks ago. 😊
  13. We are still in 'stay at home' also, but there are exceptions such as going outside (I go for long drives every day just to get sun and air. We are also allowed to have indoor gatherings of 10 people and outdoor gatherings of 25 people. At those gatherings we are not required to wear masks but are "strongly encouraged" to. Here's the NJ guidelines: https://covid19.nj.gov/faqs/nj-information/general-public/for-which-reasons-can-i-leave-my-home-or-place-of-residence-what-are-the-“stay-at-home”-rules-in-new-jersey I definitely don't think that the world needs to stop and as long as people are being socially responsible I think we'll get back to "almost normal" soon. The only thing that I am strongly against at this point is large crowds (sporting events, concerts, cruising, etc.) Until we know more about this virus, I think those situations could be big trouble. But I am not going to stop living because I'm not cruising. I have no cruises booked this year (I canceled them all), but I am planning a land vacation in August. 😁
  14. Are you in lockdown? I'm not even in lockdown in New Jersey and we still have the most restrictions that I know of (except for NYC.) Maybe I don't understand what you mean by lockdown. I go out every single day and have been doing so for the past month. I was stuck in the house for 2 months with Covid-19 and I haven't stayed in my house a single day since I recovered.
  15. Once travel opens up it only takes one asymptomatic infected person from our area to fly to the Midwest and start a hotspot. So I wouldn't speak too soon.
  16. I'm in New Jersey as well. Folks across the country don't seem to have a clue what's really going on in our world!
  17. NCL hasn't resumed operations or announced casino guidelines.
  18. I've read a few things now (and also watched Royal's CEO video yesterday) that seem to point to Asia and Europe cruises opening first. Richard Fain pointed out that those two geographies are much further along in terms of Covid recovery compared to the US. Another article I read online also suggested that cruises in those areas would be back first.
  19. So are you suggesting that people don't get tested? My response that it was free was to someone who was concerned about whether they needed insurance coverage to be tested. No one should avoid getting a test because they're worried about payment. I'm not concerned about my tax money being used to help those less fortunate diagnose a serious health condition. I was initially slightly miffed when a saw a discussion on a FB cruise group about folks getting together to book a cruise with their stimulus checks, but hey it stimulates the economy so I had to check myself on that one. (I wasn't eligible for a stimulus check.) But medical care? Doesn't bother me a bit to help others in that situation. 🤷‍♀️
  20. If you don't want to get a test, don't get one. I am now putting you on Ignore because you are literally exhausting and a complete waste of my time.
  21. Listen, it is clear that you are looking for any way to "win", but you are focused on the wrong thing. The focus should be curbing the spread of a deadly virus (not "the flu") and how everyone can help. Widespread testing helps slow the spread, and the NJ and NY governors know that and are encouraging people EVERY DAY on LIVE broadcasts to get tested. I can give you 1000 links to replays, but you won't listen to them because you are so focused on being right. I have no skin in this game. I've already had Covid and probably have immunity - at least for a while. Odds are that I could cruise tomorrow on a ship covered in Covid-19 virus and not catch it OR spread it - with or without a mask. So, it's not me I'm even concerned about. My sole purpose in sharing my story is to try and help people understand the importance of protecting themselves and others. For some reason known only to God, I was one of the lucky ones to survive this horror when so many others did not. I feel like the least I can do to pay it forward is to try to help others. So, if you don't understand that, you lose. You can think you won a debate of headlines and links, but clearly you are too blinded by your ego to understand the point. You know everything, I get it. I did too. If you've read my previous posts you know that I scoffed at everyone telling me I was crazy to cruise. I thought they were all scaredy-cats and drama queens. Afraid of their own shadows and making a mountain out of a molehill. Oops, I guess I wasn't that smart after all. At least my ego is not so fragile that I can admit when I'm wrong.
  22. Read the headline - Covid testing for ALL. I live here and I listen to the Governor every day. I know what our recommendations are. You are clueless and your arguments don't even make sense anymore. Also, regardless of Federal, NJ or any other guidelines, you can be absolutely sure I will take a test before I cruise again. And before you go on an ill-informed diatribe about how test results take forever and I could contract the virus between the test and the cruise, my last test was Wednesday and I had the results Thursday. I have no idea where you live, but clearly you are not in a Covid epicenter or you would be better informed about what is happening in the real world.
  23. Covid-19 testing is free.
  24. Google is your friend. https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/05/19/coronavirus-self-swab-testing-cvs-new-jersey/ This was a week ago. Our crazy governor thinks widespread testing will drive faster reopening. What a nut, right? TRENTON, N.J. (CBSNewYork) – Continuing to tie expanded testing to reopening the state for business, New Jersey’s governor announced a broad increase in the number of locations where people can get tested for COVID-19, along with plans to offer do-it-yourself swabbing kits by the end of the month... ...Relaxing previous restrictions, New Jersey will now allow 18,000 licensed pharmacists across 2,200 pharmacies to give FDA-approved or authorized COVID-19 tests to their customers.
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