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  1. correction the bbc just corrected this to say a 47yr old is critical 25yr old just ill
  2. A lot on here saw that coming. Hope most kept themselves inside as much as possible as was requested, however, we know from following their twitter feeds some thought they knew better.
  3. On here several mentions of how the diamond passengers badly affected were elderly. Just an update from Germany. Their latest case is a 25yr old man from italy who was diagnosed yesterday and is now critical. One report has stated he had no underlying health issues although i cant see how that would be known by the press.
  4. A boy of 16 from the ship has now tested positive in HK And an 8th Australian
  5. just read that a 2nd diamond passenger has tested positive in Israel.
  6. Just on the news that 2 hotels in Alssio Italy in have been told to quarantine tourists and employees - things like that will become a real headache/ worry for those planning to stay for a few days ahead of their cruises
  7. It depends on where in Italy. My SIL is in the midst of all of this - only a few Km from lock-down. I have had to find hand wash to send out - there is non in the shops no masks either - the shops have now been more or less cleared out of food. All schools, uni churches restaurants have been closed. Even in Milan the Schools and Unis are closed my BIL is a lecturer and is now off. My niece is a nurse there and I can assure you they are concerned.
  8. I thought it was you who was claiming that none of the people on repatriation flights had been released.
  9. some people being evacuated spent time wondering around japan first awaiting other family to be released so they were allowed on the same reparation flights. So I expect that some must have had Japanese release from quarantine. Again we will not know the exact figures of how may tested negative then positive and the timing between these results until every piece of data is properly analyzed. No one can make factual statements otherwise.
  10. So the people that were released on day 14 to wonder round japan for a few days until their repatriation flights took place 2 days latter were never released by Japan.
  11. what do you mean by not finishing on the ship & final testing - they completed their 14 days (16 in UK case) & only one round of testing was being undertaken, yes some may have been tested earlier, however, some may not we will have to wait and see once all this is over. Some of those on the repatriation flights were in fact released but could not join the first round of flights because other family members in other cabins had not been released. These people were allowed to wait it out in hotels to join the later flights home (I was following some on twitter who had to do this the went walking on their 1st day off taking photos and out for dinner- They had to wait 2 days until other family got the all clear results to fly home on a 2nd repatriation flight). I don't think you can call it either way until the analysis of who was tested when has been undertaken
  12. Just to clarify at least 11 people who stayed on the ship for 14 or more days since the quarantine was introduced, who had negative tests before leaving the ship tested positive on re-entry (testing done within 24hrs of leaving the ship)- to their own countries.
  13. Correct guidance is min 2 tests if there is reason to except that person is( high chance of being) infected. That's why the Japanese ( and others who chose not to go home )just being allowed to walk off the ship is so baffling.
  14. Agreed that would have been a different plan and was the one used by most other countries( and had I been an evacuees my favoured one especially as I like some would have stayed in my cabin the whole time). However, we now know that the test results were not conclusive either, it's like a circle there is no end. A puzzle with no right answers
  15. That's a few countries issued warnings against travel to infected parts of italy, which means no insurance if you travel against this advice. Also Mauritius has refused entry to a plane from italy unless passengers willing to undergo quarantine. The plane has returned to italy. If this continues for any length of time cruise lines will start to feel the impact
  16. May be next phase of quarantine now seen as something their home countries need to deal with. Not sure any commercial airline will be too happy to fly them. Need to watch and see I suppose , just hoping mo more strange descion are made.
  17. All UK Hk and Aus had to have an actual test that was negative before being allowed to board. At least 10 have been retested on arrival home and are now positive. I have been following a few on twitter while they awaited results and they all knew a negative was a condition of being allowed on their repatriation flights. I do not know about others except that us did not require testing
  18. Agreed - Yes obviously the main objective was quarantine, however, if i wasn't also a target to stop spread on the ship - why bother with masks, cabin confinement, deck schedules etc. They were attempting to do both but I think completely underestimated how infectious this virus is, the data (from China) they had to go on was unreliable at best.
  19. There were several cases like this- These were all documented/photographed or videoed by the people doing it and posted on their on twitter or face books- Banana passed down balconies food swapped from one room to another Banner held out across balconies Family from 2 different rooms hugging when they met on deck The one below was a photo in the press Face masks off and hanging down on the buses to airport
  20. My family live just north of Milan, and we are getting updates from them last count 132 infected. Shelves in supermarkets quickly emptying. No hand sanitizer left in shops. My niece is a nurse in a large hospital in Como and they are all on alert. The Venice carnival has been suspended and all football matches are now canceled in the region. Uni in Milan closed and exams dates moved my BIL is a lecturer there. Some towns now have road blocks and permission required to come or go. Austria is now looking at closing the road boarder with Italy as one case is only a few Km away. There are now cases in Venice itself. If they are going to this effort I would expect that the government will be assessing the risk of allowing ships to roam from port to port in Italy. And I expect other countries will feel the same especially as a large number of the passengers will be Italian
  21. My family live just north of Milan, and we are getting updates from them last count 132 infected. Shelves in supermarkets quickly emptying. No hand sanitizer left in shops. My niece is a nurse in a large hospital in Como and they are all on alert. The Venice carnival has been suspended and all football matches are now canceled in the region. Uni in Milan closed and exams dates moved my BIL is a lecturer there. Some towns now have road blocks and permission required to come or go. Austria is now looking at closing the road boarder with Italy as one case is only a few Km away. If they are going to this effort I would expect that the government will be assessing the risk of allowing ships to roam from port to port in Italy especially as there is a case inland 1/2 way between Genoa and Savona.
  22. Not sure where in Spain you are going but I thought the ports may be a bit resorty for us . I couldn't have been more wrong. Malaga was beautiful and we loved Cadiz too. If stopping at either of them google a few photos before writing them off. We were so impressed are actually thinking of a week or so touring about Malaga to Seville
  23. I didn't keep complete check of the dates but I know the Australians got their results on the ship on the Feb 19th the day they were meant to leave. They said day 15 on their blog - but may be you know the day the quarantine was started to check that out. If the people talking about what was happening are correct then the 7 Australians did complete their quarantine time before leaving the ship and becoming positive. I have been following this lovely family and hoping for the best outcome possible for them.
  24. And unfortunately I don't think this will be an isolated indecent in Japan
  25. I just wonder if it means some who were tested away at the start were meant to be retested but some where missed. I have not seen or heard of any who were tweeting ever mentioning a retest.
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