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Hello there!

 

We've booked a Westbound transatlantic on QM2 (Hamburg to New York in June 2019) for a very distant honeymoon, to cap off a week or so in Iceland and three days in Hamburg. This will be both our first time on any ship, let alone an ocean liner (the golden days of ocean travel have long-resonated with me and we wanted something reminiscent of that era). Is anybody else going on the same crossing or has anyone been on the same one from previous years? I'd love to hear of your experiences with QM2 and maybe some tips for getting the most out of this bucket list trip. We've booked a sheltered balcony (BZ) stateroom and now I find myself ogling at our voyage personalizer several times a week purely out of excitement.

 

We'll be 30 and 26 at the time of the crossing, and I know the general pax age is often double that. However, I guess you could say we've "matured our interests early" and already appreciate more refined and sophisticated entertainment, etc. We'd rather take fine dining, big band / string quartet music and traditional elegance over belly flop contests and surf simulators (not to say those ships aren't fun, but just aren't our preference), but still will sooner head over to the Royal Court Theatre than take a painting class, for example. Does anyone have advice on what to partake in and what to avoid (expenses such as photos, White Star Luggage or other fee-based events/services)? What is the process of embarking like and what should we be aware of? It's 9 days altogether and I want to avoid us getting bored, bearing in mind that our interests line up with the refined options onboard, preferably those with a little more energy in them than visiting the Library (though I look forward to that, honestly). We don't plan on scheduling every minute of the crossing of course, but I'm just curious about what the experience will be like for two first-timers with a love of the golden age of ocean travel. Thanks, and I hope I posted this in the right place as I'm unfamiliar with the new CC layout!

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There are many things that you can take advantage of that cost nothing. The shows, the music, the wonderful meals, the interesting speakers, and the formal afternoon tea. These all come with the cost of the crossing.

 

There are things to avoid, but other things not to be easily discarded. Photos other than perhaps a boarding picture as a memento of your voyage are one. The other thing I try to avoid are overly expensive wines, and of course buying last minute needs in the ships stores when they can be had on land for a lot less. You can easily avoid the tourist things in the shops other than perhaps one tee shirt. And by all means avoid the constant sales of gold chains and watches that abound in the corridors. And the art auctions are seriously to be avoided.

 

One thing you might consider seriously spending money on is the white star luggage service, especially as you will have spent some time traveling before you board. If you are going to partake of the formal nights (at a minimum you will need a sports jacket for evening meals in the Britannia dining room) and plan to wear formal clothes not having to haul a big suitcase through your Iceland adventure ( and paying airline baggage fees) is a very good idea. The bag can be packed with clothes you will need on board, but don't need before, and it will be delivered directly to your stateroom aboard. You and your spouse should be able to put every formal thing you need in a 20 kg bag (about 50lbs) and ship it for about $450. This is one expense I have never regretted paying. Keep in mind that laundry service on the ship is much less than in land based hotels. so when you board, get those things you have used in Iceland cleaned and pressed. There are free laundries conveniently located through out the ship to do your washing in, and soap is provided free.

 

A lady friend of mine makes the most of her formal wear with a basic dark colored outfit, which she wears sparkly tops over and accesorizes with bright colored scarves. That will make the wardrobe more flexible. There will be three formal nights, two back to back and one later. If you have two formal shirts you can have one laundered and you won't have to have three, one for each day. If necessary you can have one laundered in a day, but the cost goes up by 50% for that service.

 

Since you have some time, if you don't have a tuxedo already you can buy a very servicable inexpensive one at Joseph A Bank, and they regularly have sales. Or consider a formal rental shops sales rack. Even though it is summer a black tux will do fine on the Atlantic. Don't forget to bring a pair of dress shoes for you and your spouse. They can go in the White Star bag.

 

 

I am sure you already know this, but make sure that you passport will not expire within 6 months of your voyage, Cunard is very sticky about this, and now you have plenty of time to fix any problems with your documents.

 

Give serious consideration to getting travel insurance from a land based company or from Cunard. If for any reason you cannot sail, your money won't be refunded or credited to a future voyage after you have made your final payment. Young people rarely think about this but it's something you should consider.

 

You have made a very grown up choice to take this voyage, and I assure you that you will have a terrific time. Mike

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Hi:

 

Where do you live in Canada? I live in The Detroit area And my mother's family live in Canada. We did a transatlantic on the QE2 and a Caribbean cruise on the QM2.

 

Hopefully you are a dancer or will take dance lessons. The QM2 has the largest dance floor on the seas. Nothing is as elegant from the past as dancing on the QM2! We watched the dancing every evening - boring for some but not for me! My husband sprained his ankle the first day, so I sometimes danced with a "gentleman host". Yes, this is one of the few remaining ships to have them. They dance with ladies traveling without an escort and ladies with a partner with two left feet (or sprained ankle)! Imagine the dancing on Cunard many years ago! You need to dine at the first seating, so that you can dance and attend a show and/or recital.

 

Afternoon tea is special and properly executed on Cunard. I was disappointed in it on a different cruise line. There wasn't the presentation or tasty items as on the Queens. They spoiled me for the other imposters!

 

You can probably use the $450+ for the White Star luggage service on other expenses. Since you are young and hopefully healthy, you should be able to handle a larger piece of luggage with room for your QM2 dress-up clothing. We placed them in clear-zipped plastic Samsonite packing bags that kept them separate from our clothing and tidy as we stayed multiple nights in hotels before we boarded the ship. If you have your tuxedo shirt laundered, remember to remove the buttons. My husband forgot and they were ruined. The laundry lady loaned him plastic ones! My husband wished he would have just rented a tux on the ships!

 

Join the Cruise Critic upcoming roll call for your sailing. You can share and learn information from each other. It's fun to have a gathering on the ship with people you have met on Cruise Critic. Also, the people we met at the gathering on the ship were younger passengers. It's nice to run into a few people you know while you're on the ship.

 

I highly recommend asking for a round table of six on the main floor of the Britannia restaurant. They are placed better than the rectangular tables for six. You can meet interesting tablemates. We had great tablemates. Check the seating chart, and you will see that there are few tables for two and they seem to be away from the main areas. We sat in the front of the mural next to the Captain's table, and it was wonderful! It's nice to see passengers descending on the staircase dressed in their finery and the evening the chefs parade down the steps! Don't be shy about using your "we're on our honeymoon and have never sailed on a ship before" card with the phone staff and on these boards. Be sure and mention how you have dreamed of and longed to go on a transatlantic crossing since you were young. Cunard staff do read these boards. One couple we met was upgraded twice ending up with a Queen Grill's suite. And they were a young couple just celebrating an anniversary! Someone on the boards suggested immediately after boarding the ship and going to your stateroom, taking your table assignment to the dining room, see where it is and asking for a table in a better location if you don't like your assigned table.

 

I'm curious about your three days in Germany. Have you visited Germany? We have visited it extensively over the years, and will answer any questions that you would like to ask us. We've driven and traveled on the trains. We really like the trains in Germany! They're very stable unlike the Amtrak trains!

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I'm curious about your three days in Germany. Have you visited Germany? We have visited it extensively over the years, and will answer any questions that you would like to ask us. We've driven and traveled on the trains. We really like the trains in Germany! They're very stable unlike the Amtrak trains!

 

Thanks so much everyone for your suggestions!

As it stands, we plan on flying to Iceland from Ottawa (our home) and renting a camper van before trekking around the country for 7-10 days. Then, we'll jet over to Hamburg for 3 or 4 nights (we've never been but I'm fascinated by the liner history and culture of Germany). After, we board the Mary for the crossing to NYC before flying home on July 3rd (we want to get out before the chaos of 4th of July in NYC). I think we'll bring our suits with us, both being gentlemen who pack light when traveling, and just bring two oversize bags to put everything in (clothes for Iceland and hiking boots, plus dress shoes and clothes for the ship - now I know what people went through with steamer trunks lol). We just have basic single-button black blazers and pants, but can add a bowtie and white dress shirt if that would be acceptable for formal nights (will rent tuxes if not, just unsure of the fees). We'd love to ballroom dance together along with the rest, but I daresay it would probably be more acceptable if we find lonely women to escort to the dance floor (though if people are comfortable with it, we'll certainly give a waltz together to Glenn Miller's "Moonglow" a whirl).

 

It would be an absolute dream to be upgraded to a Queen's Grill suite and be able to dine in its respective restaurant, so we'll see what happens! We've reserved a table for 2 in Britannia, but I plan on calling Cunard tonight and switching to a round table for 6 (as long as I don't order pasta I won't make a fool of myself at least). It would be amazing to dine in the open area in front of the mural, near the captain's table with a view of the stairs. We also plan on visiting the Seacity Museum in Southampton when in dock, as we're unsure of what else there is time for during the short time in port before heading out to open ocean again. Again, thanks so much for your input along with everyone else's!

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Cunard has a walking tour of Southampton based very loosely on the Titanic which has a stop at the SeaCity museum, and transportation back to the Ocean Terminal. I am doing that next month on my trip from Hamburg. By the way, if you have any interest in model railroads. I can recommend the Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg as a knock your pants off exhibit.

 

Cunard also has a couple of excursions in Southampton if you haven't been before to Stonehenge, and to Windsor Castle. Remember that when you take a Cunard provided excursion the ship will not leave with out you, If you go on your own, you might be at risk.

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Cunard has a walking tour of Southampton based very loosely on the Titanic which has a stop at the SeaCity museum, and transportation back to the Ocean Terminal. I am doing that next month on my trip from Hamburg. By the way, if you have any interest in model railroads. I can recommend the Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg as a knock your pants off exhibit.

 

 

Well, that's absolutely perfect! Thanks for letting me know about this. Will definitely check out the Minatur Wunderland when we get to Hamburg also.

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I have not actually visited it myself, but since you are planning several days in Hamburg and mentioned your interest in liner history, you may want to consider a visit to the Internationales Maritimes Museum in Hamburg. As I understand it, that museum has exhibits of various ship models including a model of the Queen Mary 2 made out of legos. Here is a link to an image of that QM2 lego model found on Wikimedia Commons.

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/LEGO_Queen_Mary_2_model_-_Internationales_Maritimes_Museum_Hamburg.jpg

 

I only know about this because it has been mentioned by several others on this forum over the years. I thought it might be worth mentioning again now in connection with your trip to Hamburg where you will be joining the QM2.

 

Regards, John

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I have not actually visited it myself, but since you are planning several days in Hamburg and mentioned your interest in liner history, you may want to consider a visit to the Internationales Maritimes Museum in Hamburg. As I understand it, that museum has exhibits of various ship models including a model of the Queen Mary 2 made out of legos. Here is a link to an image of that QM2 lego model found on Wikimedia Commons.

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/LEGO_Queen_Mary_2_model_-_Internationales_Maritimes_Museum_Hamburg.jpg

 

I only know about this because it has been mentioned by several others on this forum over the years. I thought it might be worth mentioning again now in connection with your trip to Hamburg where you will be joining the QM2.

 

Regards, John

 

Thanks for reminding me about this, John! It had completely slipped my mind and I'm sure we'll check it out (sure will be cool seeing the QM2 in Lego form before going on the real thing). Yes, we're making the whole Hamburg visit very liner-themed it seems. We're even staying in the Atlantic Hotel (though partly because we love the 007 movie filmed there, Tomorrow Never Dies). I'd also love to see the "village" that Albert Ballin had the Hamburg-Amerika Line build for immigrants, but I'm unsure of where it is or what's left.

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I'm sure there will be solitary women who would love to dance with you if you are good dancers! Quite a few men wear dark suits. A tux is so retro and looks so wonderful in a formal photo in a QM2-labeled photo frame! Also, you can have your photo taken with the backdrop of the famous Titanic grand staircase. I don't know why they do this on ships, but it's a tradition with many passengers. Where else can you obtain this, eh?

 

I envy you your first time in Germany and on the QM2! I have so many fond memories!

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You mention you are spending a number of days in Iceland and Hamburg prior to your sailing. You will need some dressy clothes for the sailing. Instead of carting them throughout your trip, might I suggest you consider White Star Luggage service. Your luggage is picked up a couple of weeks before the cruise and delivered to your stateroom on embarkation day.

Enjoy and congratulations on your wedding.

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... I'd also love to see the "village" that Albert Ballin had the Hamburg-Amerika Line build for immigrants, but I'm unsure of where it is or what's left.

 

My understanding is that nothing remains of the original emigration village that Albert Ballin had built in Hamburg. But three buildings have been faithfully reconstructed on the original site of that village and they can be toured at the BallinStadt Emigration Museum.

 

Regards, John

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I'll definitely have to check that out when we visit. Thanks, John!

 

Subsequently, we've adjusted our trip so that we spend 8-9 days in Iceland before flying to Berlin for 3-4 days, followed by 3 days in Hamburg before boarding the ship. I've been seeing reviews heavily knocking the food, so we're keeping our expectations low. Also not looking forward to the disembarkation/interrogation in New York (my husband is originally from Mexico and won't be a full Canadian citizen before the trip, so I can't help but fret a little), but we'll make the most of it and just be extra-cautious with paperwork, etc.

 

Also contacted Cunard as they were offering free upgrades, reduced deposits, and other benefits for the same suites on the same trip, and they were kind enough to help me reduce our booking by $700 and give us a free upgrade to anything above category BZ (our current stateroom type, though I hope they leave it as is if they plan to transfer us to another sheltered balcony room, as we're on Deck 6 starboard basically under Canyon Ranch - will call to say we'd prefer upgrades only to staterooms on Deck 9 or higher). They couldn't transfer our bonus onboard credit attained through the initial booking, but gave us $75 each "because it's our honeymoon" (hope there's more of this in the way of an invite to the Queen's Grill one night). This will go straight to the gratuities so my s/o doesn't flip out over extra expenses, etc. If they have other promos on before February 2019, I've been instructed to call again so they can give us the perks. Guess that's what happens when you book 550+ days out!

 

Also, does anyone know if it's possible to book tours of the bridge and galley?

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Also, does anyone know if it's possible to book tours of the bridge and galley?

The behind the scenes tour is booked [and sells out quickly] the morning of the first day after boarding. If possible, try to find out the opening time of the tour office on your embarkation day.

 

I was waitlisted, but Cunard added an additional tour group due to demand. There is lots of standing, some of the staircases are much steeper than in passenger spaces, and there are a few 'knee knocker' watertight doors. Working crew has absolute right of way, and the escorts try to minimize the group's impact on the 'burma road' portion of the tour.

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The behind the scenes tour is booked [and sells out quickly] the morning of the first day after boarding. If possible, try to find out the opening time of the tour office on your embarkation day.

 

I was waitlisted, but Cunard added an additional tour group due to demand. There is lots of standing, some of the staircases are much steeper than in passenger spaces, and there are a few 'knee knocker' watertight doors. Working crew has absolute right of way, and the escorts try to minimize the group's impact on the 'burma road' portion of the tour.

 

 

We have done Behind the Scenes on all 3 ships, on each occasion I booked immediately on boarding at Pursers Desk, I suggest you aim to do the same. Photos incidentally are not permitted.

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I am on that trip from Southampton to New York and also from Ottawa. The QM2 is truly incredible! I have been onboard 8 times. My advice: don’t try to pack everything in but rather just take time to relax. There is nothing better than a late afternoon drink in the Commodore Club and watching the ocean and then going to get ready for dinner. All this without any pressure.

 

 

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I am on that trip from Southampton to New York and also from Ottawa. The QM2 is truly incredible! I have been onboard 8 times. My advice: don’t try to pack everything in but rather just take time to relax. There is nothing better than a late afternoon drink in the Commodore Club and watching the ocean and then going to get ready for dinner. All this without any pressure.

 

 

 

I couldn't agree more! It's important to savour such special moments. The plan is to not live according to a schedule the 9 days we're onboard - if anything, I'm just looking to gather information about the experiences available to us onboard so we can very roughly plan what we'd like to do each day (with plenty of open time for relaxing and exploring the ship). Will definitely head straight over to book the tour after stepping onboard - one of us is a foodie and the other a longtime admirer of ocean liner design, so it's sure to appeal to us both! Otherwise, the only things I plan on pre-scheduling are the excursion in Southampton (walking tour and SeaCity Museum), afternoon tea twice, and planetarium tickets. I presume this can all be done at the Purser's Office/Tour Office. Leaving the rest up to chance for us to discover!

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... Otherwise, the only things I plan on pre-scheduling are the excursion in Southampton (walking tour and SeaCity Museum), afternoon tea twice, and planetarium tickets. I presume this can all be done at the Purser's Office/Tour Office. Leaving the rest up to chance for us to discover!

 

The shore excursion can indeed be arranged at the Tour Office if you don't want to purchase it ahead of time via the Voyage Personaliser. There is no need to arrange anything ahead of time with regard to the standard afternoon tea in the Queens Room. Just be there on time to ensure you get a seat. The Planetarium tickets are usually distributed beginning at 9:00am from the ConneXions desk on deck 2. They usually go very quickly the first few days but are more readily available later in the voyage as the shows tend to repeat.

 

Regards, John

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There is no need to arrange anything ahead of time with regard to the standard afternoon tea in the Queens Room. Just be there on time to ensure you get a seat. The Planetarium tickets are usually distributed beginning at 9:00am from the ConneXions desk on deck 2. They usually go very quickly the first few days but are more readily available later in the voyage as the shows tend to repeat.

 

Regards, John

 

Excellent info. Thanks for sharing!

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we did Ham to NCY in June of 15. Like you it was the end of a longer vaca ... we'd done a river cruise and then a week in Germany (nuremberg and hamburg) them QM2 for the return to US SO we had the same concerns about carrying different wardrobes for different parts of the trip ...

 

- the tux rental prices on QM2 were nuts. I'm retired and hadn't worn a suit in years but ended up buying a good suit, a sport coat, couple pairs of pants and several dress shirts and ties and coming out ahead!!!! Dragging it was a pain, but we managed.

 

- I got buy with a dark suit for formal nights but be warned Cunard takes the dress code seriously. I saw them invite folks to leave lounges at 6 cuz they were not dressed appropriate to the evenings code .... your blazer and trou need to look like a suit or formal wear .... just sayin' this was our experience.

 

- be prepared for plenty of quiet time ..... this is laid back cruising NOT RCCL or Carnival. By the 3rd day you seldom saw ANY event full ... the planetarium for example was typically less than half full. In our experience sitting outside or on our balc' didn't happen much either: cold and windy! Outside pool? forgetaboutit! A LOT of the folks on board are using the crossing as 'transportation' and not a vacation of itself ... so they are less interested in doing 'stuff' ... our opinion anyway

 

- hopefully the embark' process has improved as I believe they've moved to the new terminal building. Ours was among the most unimpressive boarding process we've experience (over 50 cruises). But just take deep breaths, it gets better once you get on board . . .

 

- Cunard sells each leg separately. There were a BUNCH of folks on board for just the Hamb' to Southampton jump ... a mini holiday! We booked late and ended up with different rooms for each leg.

 

- departure from Hamburg is usually a big thing, we saw lots of boat charters and dinner cruises being sold for our departure. Then on the day the tide was low and our departure was delayed several hours .... oh well! (QM2 passes over a tunnel under the river and with low water the draft resulted in a 'below' minimum safety factor so we had to wait for high tide.) The folks only on for 2 nites partied hard the first nite especially when we got delayed . . .

 

- In Hamb' highly recommend miniature wonderland. we planned to spend an hour or two and ended up spending nearly 5! get there early if you can, we could have stayed longer. Got there very early without prepurchase tickets and waited about 30 minutes to get in.

 

- Hamb' maritime museum is good but NOTHING like miniature wonderland.

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- there's an automobile museum too - we went - very 'skipable' IMO ....

 

- we took an excursion in Southampton to BATH .... no complaints.

 

Enjoy the ride . . . we found the Commodore Louge to be a great place to sit and read during the day. Quiet, occasional piano music and in the far corners there are quiet nitches with a couple of chairs looking straight forward ...

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Thanks so much for the insights! Yeah, it's pretty much what I expected - we have single-button black blazers with matching dress pants, black neckties, and black dress shoes, so I envision that we'll be fine with those and will just have them pressed onboard after lugging them across Iceland. The White Star Luggage fee is far too high for us when factoring in the cost of the entire trip overall - we've even had to cut out Berlin and will just be seeing Hamburg to cut costs.

 

We're both aware that a crossing has a more laid-back and "let me sit here with my book all day" kind of atmosphere to it as opposed to RCI and the like, but to us it's actually preferred as we're looking for a peaceful, inspiring, and truly unique experience! As someone who has extensively written about and researched ocean liner travel since a young age, I'm sure nothing is going to beat the usual grand departure from Hamburg and iconic arrival in New York! Hoping for good weather on the port days and hopefully a couple sea days, but wouldn't complain if we experienced rough weather here or there in-between.

 

Those photos of the Commodore Club make me wish it was 2019 already - can't wait to settle in a chair with a drink on one of the wings overlooking the bow (even the architect's favourite spot). The wait for this trip is going to be absolute hell, but this forum sure will help with making the time pass!

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another one I remembered

 

- about that NY arrival 'thrill' .... we arrived very early, before dawn early. We would have missed going under the Ver' bridge had I not just woken up {as a former ship's captain it was probably a speed change that woke me ... I'm still quite aware of sound and vibrations changes when asleep). You may want to set an alarm if you really really wanna be up to see. Our arrival was a misty morning as well ...

 

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this is as close as you get to Statue OF L' ... this was taken as we spun around in prep' to back into the berth at Red Hook.

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this was the view from the berth at Red Hook a lil after docking ... that's Governor's Island to the right, a former US Coast Guard Base near and dear to my heart

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point I mean to mention here is you won't sail 'past' SoL .... you will get as far as picture one then 'cast' or spin about to back in to the berth .... unless they change the berth for QM2.

 

Since I alway over explain <!>.. here's a track generated from a recording of the GPS positions on a typical QM2 arrival. The 'loop' is how the system sees the 'cast' maneuver when the ship turns 180 degrees and backs in ... {

BASIC SHIP HANDLING #5

 

Casting - Cast means to turn a ship in her own water. Vessels in restricted anchorages often have to turn in their own water because of nearby anchored vessels or restricted maneuvering space.}

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We'd love to ballroom dance together along with the rest, but I daresay it would probably be more acceptable if we find lonely women to escort to the dance floor (though if people are comfortable with it, we'll certainly give a waltz together to Glenn Miller's "Moonglow" a whirl).

 

 

 

Please don’t do that— it’s your honeymoon- dance together... don’t worry about what other people are saying.

For minitur wonderland, there is also a “backstage” tour that looks really interesting. I had wanted to do it last summer from Kiel, but it was during the G20 summit, so didn’t want to travel to Hamburg.

 

 

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Please don’t do that— it’s your honeymoon- dance together... don’t worry about what other people are saying.

For minitur wonderland, there is also a “backstage” tour that looks really interesting. I had wanted to do it last summer from Kiel, but it was during the G20 summit, so didn’t want to travel to Hamburg.

 

Fair enough on the dancing - mind, neither of us can dance to save our lives, lol! We're not the kind of couple that likes to put on a show to force agendas and draw attention, and we respect that the passengers mostly consist of an older demographic, but I daresay we'll brave the dance floor together once or twice. G32 seems like the more suitable spot in my opinion, but we'll play it by ear! Will definitely look into the backstage tour as well. Thanks!

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I might as well add that we're on Deck 6 in 6084. Is anyone familiar with that part of the ship? I turned down a next-category upgrade from a recent promotion because my husband prefers the safe feeling of having a sheltered balcony (plus being able to use it no matter the weather in most instances). It seems like a quiet part of the ship, but I see Carinthia Lounge looming overhead on the Deck 7 layout and it's starting to seem a little too close for comfort (though admittedly, the stage seems to be at the aft end). Still, I can't see it getting noisy at night after midnight or so - hopefully I'm correct. Any input is greatly appreciated - hopefully I don't have to change rooms, as we love the one we've locked in!

 

I've also adjusted the table assignment to one for 6 in Britannia, first sitting. Specifically asked them to make a note to see if they can get us in the "well" area with the dome above us. Crossing my fingers! We had a table for 2, but I think it'll be a great deal more fun to get to know some of our fellow passengers. Plus it'll be my birthday on board, so maybe they'll have the chance to embarrass me with a cake and a singalong.

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