LARGIN Posted March 9, 2005 #126 Share Posted March 9, 2005 [quote name='spongerob']One doesn't have to experience something directly to know it will be unpleasant. Having been through the situation in question, I can positively say that my experience validated my presumptive opinion.[/QUOTE] [b]Agree..[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitaBcruising Posted March 9, 2005 #127 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I have experienced a crying baby at the table next to us, on a cruise. It was bad for the baby, us, and the family! It went on for several nights. And, it was at early seating! The family tried everything, rocking it in the stroller, and eventually taking turns walking with the baby. Notice I said eventually! :eek: I guess I've been fortunate in never having one in the cabin next to ours. Rambunctious, obnoxious, very noisy teens, yes, unfortunately! :rolleyes: And I don't personally think a cuiseship it really the best place for an infant. JMO! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdjam Posted March 9, 2005 #128 Share Posted March 9, 2005 [quote name='spongerob']One doesn't have to experience something directly to know it will be unpleasant. [/QUOTE] [font='Comic Sans MS']Sort of like MUTS :D [/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyBeth68 Posted March 9, 2005 #129 Share Posted March 9, 2005 LOL bdjam! Thanks for the levity here ;). I have to say that I'm very impressed at how you were able to get a jab in at MUTS on a totally unrelated thread. Kudos! LOL, you gave me a much needed chuckle. :D!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted March 12, 2005 #130 Share Posted March 12, 2005 [b][color=black]bdjam is becoming the "MUTS Master" on the CC..[/color][/b] :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge's mom Posted March 12, 2005 #131 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Alright - I'll ask - what's MUTS? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjboothman Posted March 12, 2005 #132 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Movies Under The Stars --- only on the larger ships on the top deck like a drive-in movie, if you will (or that is my understanding). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyBeth68 Posted March 12, 2005 #133 Share Posted March 12, 2005 MUTS = Movies Under The Stars :) Another topic that has been debated at length on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingfreak Posted March 13, 2005 #134 Share Posted March 13, 2005 All I can say is no for babies, & no for MUTS!! LOL!!! Minette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge's mom Posted March 13, 2005 #135 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Since I don't want to do a search or read a long string about MUTS - can anyone "endulge" me and give me the "short" version of what is wrong with having MUTS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewlane Posted March 13, 2005 Author #136 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Having just finished our cruise on the Grand, I still believe strongly that a cruise ship is no place for an infant. While we did not experience any major problems with infants, I can share the experience we had with one infant and their parents on the shuttle bus that takes you to the parking lot: It was very busy and somewhat chaotic loading up the shuttle and these folks brought with them a very LARGE baby stroller. Now this thing just wouldn't fit on the shuttle and the driver ended up jamming the thing through the front door and inconveniencing several passengers. I can't imagine how they navigated this stroller through the ship - must have blocked all those narrow hallways and taken up most of the elevator. Anyway, I had the "privilege" of sitting next to these folks on the shuttle. The baby had a very bad cough (sounded like bronchitis), and the mother was constantly complaining about everything. I can't imagine that they had that great of a time... However, I will say that the "kids" on board were very well behaved in general, and I was pleasantly suprised that most of the parents were being responsible for their kids actions. One parent even told his son to behave while we were on the elevator because he didn't want to have to "smack" him in public. The kid shut up immediately. :cool: I noticed that some of the kids were getting a little antsy on the last day of the cruise, but that is understandable. Considering that this was a spring break cruise with almost 600 passengers under 18 onboard, I think that most were very well behaved and I appreciate the parents and their children being considerate of other passengers. Drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enymarsh Posted March 13, 2005 #137 Share Posted March 13, 2005 As I read through this long thread I was bouncing back and forth between pro and con. When my kids were infants we mostly took vacations to visit family, not because we thought it would be wrong to be in hotels and cruise ships, but because that's all we could afford and we had lots of family begging us to go. Once the younger one was a toddler, though, we went to Disney World and I can still remember the trepidation with which we would address bedtime at the hotel... hoping and praying that he'd make it through the night without keeping us up screaming. Now that I am addicted to cruising, would I have wanted to take him on a cruise? Probably not. The idea of being trapped on a ship with a child that I knew wasn't a good traveler would be beyond consideration. But that's my personal experience with that child. My daughter ate in 5 star restaurants with us when she was as young as 6 months and continued through her toddler years... she'd have been fine on a ship! As I now travel to relax with my husband and we usually go without children, I honestly can't say that I've ever been disturbed by any babies onboard... I'm actually not sure that I've even seen any. We've probably been lucky, but we've never been bothered by any individuals under the age of 18 while we were onboard. I guess for me, the answer to whether or not one should bring an infant onboard lies in your knowledge of your own child. If you have a challenging child (as my son was (is?)) you probably know it. Now - is it really reasonable to expect those issues to go away just because you're on a cruise ship? I still remember all of those times I walked the parking lot with him because he couldn't last in a restaurant while the rest of the family finished up inside. Why would he have been different in a restaurant on a ship? If you know this about your child, why would YOU want to be trapped onboard with them (the issues)? Why wouldn't you just choose another way to get away, or just delay your vacations (as we did) to a time when those problems have been resolved? Well, I've been thinking a lot about this while reading this thread and thus the lengthy response, trying to put my thoughts into words. Thanks for listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bld24 Posted March 14, 2005 #138 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Someone had posted regarding the Norovirus and infants,and was advised that the same thing would happen to them as would happen to anyone else. While that is true to an extent, remember that the symptoms and resulting dehydration are much more severe to an infant with a non developed immune system. Just like e-coli, this situation is much more critical in those with weak immune systems. If I were taking an infant, I'd be sure not cruise during the virus season (Oct-April). Speaking only for myself, I don't think that I'd be as comfortable with the medical facilities on a cruise ship to deal with this. Other than that personal issue, I have never had any problems with infants on cruise ships. But I've seen a few people giving the "death stare" and rolling the eyes at parents walking a child in a stroller on the ship. But then again, I've seen some parents of the kids in strollers giving the same look when they walk by the smokers. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trovador Posted March 14, 2005 #139 Share Posted March 14, 2005 I'm going to vote for a big YES. I have a 1 year old baby, so I have more tolerance now for other people's kids than I did one year ago. I'm cruising to Alaska on May and will NOT take my kid, but I wouldn't be stressed out if I saw other babies on the ship or in nearby cabins. It's quite hard to take care of a baby, so I won't make it more stressful for the parents by giving them "the look". :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcs81m Posted March 14, 2005 #140 Share Posted March 14, 2005 [color=black][font=Verdana]I voted yes, but only to the extent that the child does not substantially interfere with other cruisers. [/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana][/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]If a child is crying uncontrollably in a theater or dinning room, they should be removed immediately[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted March 15, 2005 #141 Share Posted March 15, 2005 [quote name='Trovador']I'm going to vote for a big YES. I have a 1 year old baby, so I have more tolerance now for other people's kids than I did one year ago. I'm cruising to Alaska on May and will NOT take my kid, but I wouldn't be stressed out if I saw other babies on the ship or in nearby cabins. It's quite hard to take care of a baby, so I won't make it more stressful for the parents by giving them "the look". :)[/QUOTE] [b]That is the problem.. New parents have tolerance for their kids screaming and yelling.. They block out the noise.. We cannot..[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trovador Posted March 15, 2005 #142 Share Posted March 15, 2005 [quote name='LARGIN'][b]That is the problem.. New parents have tolerance for their kids screaming and yelling.. They block out the noise.. We cannot..[/b][/QUOTE] Agreed, but I meant I have more tolerance for other people's kids as well. I'm not bringing mine to the cruise, but I can understand why someone would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryPoppinz Posted March 15, 2005 #143 Share Posted March 15, 2005 [quote name='LARGIN'][b]That is the problem.. New parents have tolerance for their kids screaming and yelling.. They block out the noise..[/b][/QUOTE] In truth, it's the opposite. There is a biological imperative for new parents [i]not[/i] to "block out the noise." Otherwise, babies would tend to starve to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CariBlue Posted March 15, 2005 #144 Share Posted March 15, 2005 [quote name='MaryPoppinz']In truth, it's the opposite. There is a biological imperative for new parents [i]not[/i] to "block out the noise." Otherwise, babies would tend to starve to death.[/QUOTE] Then there must be TONS of starving infants and toddlers out there. I think that parents are quite adept at disabling their "biological imperatives." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted March 15, 2005 #145 Share Posted March 15, 2005 [b][color=black]CariBlue is funny. I like and agree with her..[/color][/b] :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerby27 Posted March 15, 2005 #146 Share Posted March 15, 2005 [quote name='elmtree']Noooooooo, I would not bring an infant on a cruise..Nor would I give them drugs to inable them to fly...nor would I want to carry them around all week, or worry about milk and diapers, and where to change them, and where to put them to sleep.....Good God....Your mothers' would be appaled! Babies belong at home, in their own bed, on their schedule, with people who care about them enough to sacrifice their enjoyments till the children are older. But, that is just my opinon...LOL[/QUOTE] AMEN!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catnip Posted March 15, 2005 #147 Share Posted March 15, 2005 I just returned 2 days ago from a 7-day eastern Caribbean cruise. There were several very small babies on board, and I mean [i]very[/i] small. I would be so afraid that an infant so young would pick up any kind of germs, or infections that are common on cruises. NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator83 Posted March 15, 2005 #148 Share Posted March 15, 2005 [quote name='drewlane']I saw the recent thread about this and figured this would make a great poll. :D I'll start the voting off with a big NO. :p <puts on flame-retardant suit> Drew[/QUOTE] I vote no because I wouldn't take an infant on ANY trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CariBlue Posted March 16, 2005 #149 Share Posted March 16, 2005 [quote name='LARGIN'][b][color=black]CariBlue is funny. I like and agree with her..[/color][/b] :D :D[/QUOTE] Right back at'cha!:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahracer Posted March 16, 2005 #150 Share Posted March 16, 2005 [quote name='Catnip I would be so afraid that an infant so young would pick up any kind of germs, or infections that are common on cruises. NO![/QUOTE'] Just an interesting note to your above comment. Before deciding whether or not to take my 5 week old child with me on a business trip to Puerto Rico we consulted her doctor because we were concerned about what sickness she might be exposed to. He looked at us like we were nuts. He gave us a lecture about babies immune systems and told us to go. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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