Take your pet cruising on Carnival with you !!

[surfclam2003]

Just hope and pray that the critics of service animals never need their services.

 

I have been on several cruises where passengers had service animals and trust me when I say the service animals were better behaved then the humans on board.

 

I will take a service animal above some people!

[waldocruiser1]

So, what does it cost to bring your dog/cat/bird/hippo on the cruise, I know it is a service animal, but are there any charges?

[CruiseGal97]

I know I always miss my puppies when I leave, I wish I could take them with me! It is always hard to leave them with a family member... The vet just keeps them in a cage!:mad:

[bplazo]

Well said and I agree that there are a multitude of loopholes for people to classify their favorite pets as a service animal so they can travel together. I know two people who own restaurants who will not let animals in their establishments. Why lose business and compromise the health of other patrons. I will not eat in a restaurant that allows animals. They tell the few people they have turned away who have threatened to sue to go ahead and sue. They know it mostly bogus too. No one has ever followed up on their threats.

 

So I wonder if the lady on the Glory would get her own life boat because no one was allowed near her or her dog...:D

 

I would rather eat with dogs than some people.

[Latitude 20]

So, what does it cost to bring your dog/cat/bird/hippo on the cruise, I know it is a service animal, but are there any charges?

 

No extra charge from the cruiseline. There are expenses involved in getting the required paperwork and some countries charge fees (or require bribes) for allowing the animal onshore.

[Latitude 20]

Well said and I agree that there are a multitude of loopholes for people to classify their favorite pets as a service animal so they can travel together. I know two people who own restaurants who will not let animals in their establishments. Why lose business and compromise the health of other patrons. I will not eat in a restaurant that allows animals. They tell the few people they have turned away who have threatened to sue to go ahead and sue. They know it mostly bogus too. No one has ever followed up on their threats.

 

So I wonder if the lady on the Glory would get her own life boat because no one was allowed near her or her dog...:D

 

Your restaurant-owning friends are taking a big risk with their business for what you admit are only a few instances of service animal owners bringing their animals.

 

We take on (and win!) service animal discrimination cases all the time and the awards are generally several thousand dollars (in addition to the attorney fees). Also, in our jurisdiction, service animal discrimination is not only a civil offense, it is a criminal one with jail time for second and subsequent offenses. Finally, a place of public accommodation can have it's business license revoked if they show a pattern of discrimination.

[waldocruiser1]

No extra charge from the cruiseline. There are expenses involved in getting the required paperwork and some countries charge fees (or require bribes) for allowing the animal onshore.

 

Ok, so going out on a limb here;

 

(has anyone been watching the Celebrity Apprentice? and Marley Mattlins assistant)

 

Would he be a "Service Person" and alowd to cruise for FREE?

 

If so I want that job!

[dst]

This thread is very interesting - to the OP, I think some research before you made such comments would have been in your best interest.

 

There are so many different types of Service Animals, from seizures, detecting Diabetes, vision etc.

 

We have a service dog for a very different reason - I work with Alzheimer's patients and our Golden comes to work with me on occasion to assist in bringing comfort to the person affected with the disease.......touch is the last sense that we lose and having 20 minutes with a dog stimulates a patient and brings them more joy to their lives.

 

It is not easy to get a dog certified, it takes 2 years and a lot of money to go through the training. It is a committment and a bond between the owner and the pet

 

Could we bring her on the cruise, technically YES - we don't because I am not the one who needs the service; she assists me with my job.

 

For the folks who thinks dogs should not be in restaurants or hotels or on beaches etc - I would take a pack of dogs over some of the less than well behaved children I have had to experience on a cruise........

 

Disease is something that we can not often see or touch but that does not make it any less paralyzing - so please think before you assume

[alligirl78]

Well said and I agree that there are a multitude of loopholes for people to classify their favorite pets as a service animal so they can travel together. I know two people who own restaurants who will not let animals in their establishments. Why lose business and compromise the health of other patrons. I will not eat in a restaurant that allows animals. They tell the few people they have turned away who have threatened to sue to go ahead and sue. They know it mostly bogus too. No one has ever followed up on their threats.

 

So I wonder if the lady on the Glory would get her own life boat because no one was allowed near her or her dog...:D

 

What are the names of the restaraunts so I can be sure to never give them a dollar?? That is absolutely pathetic.

[Carnivaluver]

Your restaurant-owning friends are taking a big risk with their business for what you admit are only a few instances of service animal owners bringing their animals.

 

We take on (and win!) service animal discrimination cases all the time and the awards are generally several thousand dollars (in addition to the attorney fees). Also, in our jurisdiction, service animal discrimination is not only a civil offense, it is a criminal one with jail time for second and subsequent offenses. Finally, a place of public accommodation can have it's business license revoked if they show a pattern of discrimination.

 

And do you take on cases of all the people taking fake service dogs on cruise ships? :D:D

[celle]

And do you take on cases of all the people taking fake service dogs on cruise ships? :D:D

 

You exaggerate.

 

Do you have proof of even one "fake service dog" being taken on a cruise ship, or are you just being nasty?

[Tripper10]

I'm emotional sometimes...going to have my cat certified and bring him along everywhere, because he's MY CAT and make me feel better. Discriminate against me and I will sue you. Latitude 20 will help. Say something !

[Carnivaluver]

You exaggerate.

 

Do you have proof of even one "fake service dog" being taken on a cruise ship, or are you just being nasty?

 

It is a common problem that is becoming more common and it is happening everywhere. People have figured out how to take their beloved pets with them...restaurants, stores, casinos, cruise ships, churches, airplanes, hotels.....It is not really big news. Plus just read this thread and there is proof enough. :):):)

[celle]

It is a common problem that is becoming more common and it is happening everywhere. People have figured out how to take their beloved pets with them...restaurants, stores, casinos, cruise ships, churches, airplanes, hotels.....It is not really big news. Plus just read this thread and there is proof enough. :):):)

 

There are some people who do pass off their dogs as service dogs, I grant you that. These people are just as annoying to owners of genuine service dogs as they are to you.

 

However, citing this thread does not constitute proof that it is happening on board cruise ships. Quite the contrary. The original poster thought that a small dog on board a cruise ship could not be a genuine service dog, because it was small; a judgment based on ignorance and prejudice, not on fact.

 

Some owners of genuine service dogs have attempted to explain, in order to counteract the blatant prejudice and ignorance demonstrated by some posters on this thread. Their attempts have obviously fallen on stoney ground when it comes to you.

[ContingentSea]

Just being blunt here, but did you see why they are often in a stroller or carriage? So many people on a cruise with no expectation of an animal onboard, and one little dog. It is safer for the dog to be contained, lest it get hurt accidentally. How would you feel if you injured someones service animal? I know I'd feel really, really bad and it would ruin my vacation. Not to mention the Lido gets very hot, will burn human feet, I image it would also burn a dogs paws... Just sayin'

 

 

Sorry, you can't start a post with ""Just being blunt here" without being condescinding, and I might add, annoying. If it's a service dog being pushed around in a stroller by the supposed recipient of the need, then I have a problem. Or are you just trying to increase your posts total? :eek:

[jzygail]

Your restaurant-owning friends are taking a big risk with their business for what you admit are only a few instances of service animal owners bringing their animals.

 

We take on (and win!) service animal discrimination cases all the time and the awards are generally several thousand dollars (in addition to the attorney fees). Also, in our jurisdiction, service animal discrimination is not only a civil offense, it is a criminal one with jail time for second and subsequent offenses. Finally, a place of public accommodation can have it's business license revoked if they show a pattern of discrimination.

 

Agreed. I, personally, would love to know the names of such businesses so that I never visit them. I have no disabilities which are covered under ADA, but I so dislike doing business with frauds and cheats.

[friedshrimp]

I'm emotional sometimes...going to have my cat certified and bring him along everywhere, because he's MY CAT and make me feel better. Discriminate against me and I will sue you. Latitude 20 will help. Say something !

 

According to the new ruling, unless you can turn your cat into a dog (or maybe a miniature horse) you can not get them certified. Doesn't matter what Latitude 20 says.

[erewhon]

I know I shouldn't get bent out of shape over this thread - it just hits very close to home, as dd22 has a (uncontrolled by multiple drugs and a VNS) seizure disorder. (luckily, "minor" - not grand mal) We had looked into getting a seizure dog for her - after researching it, felt it wouldn't fit into her/our lifestyle. Interestingly enough, our cat "knows" when dd is going to have, or is having a "bad" day, and won't leave her side - follows her everywhere in the house. Pretty spooky!

 

Our cat woke us moments before the February earthquake which caused so much devastation in Christchurch, she knew something unusual was about to happen. She stayed with us until the house stopped shaking, and then hid until her usual breakfast time.

 

Animals need to be given credit for the help they give to humans.

[jenwales]

Our cat woke us moments before the February earthquake which caused so much devastation in Christchurch, she knew something unusual was about to happen. She stayed with us until the house stopped shaking, and then hid until her usual breakfast time.

 

Animals need to be given credit for the help they give to humans.

 

Animals are wonderful, and intuitive, and an asset to almost everyone. That said, people have gotten way out of hand pretending that their animals are service animals. Service animals need to be trained to peform a function, not merely helpful. It's a shame that so many people took advantage that the regulations had to be changed and clarified.

 

I'm primarily a Disney traveler and every single day on those boards there's an argument from someone who gets anxious in crowds so they need their pet to calm them down. That is not providing a service and needs to be stopped. I've not seen many service animals on cruises (and none that seemed to be taking advantage) but I think we all see people every day of our lives who won't be parted from their dogs for a minute. That's who we are talking about.

 

I wish people wouldn't be vilified for offering an opinion. If you have a trained, certified service dog take it everywhere with you. If you are exaggerating because you like your pet or lean on it for emotional support, shame on you for taking advantage of the fact that people can't question your "disability."

[Loves_Dogs]

Well said and I agree that there are a multitude of loopholes for people to classify their favorite pets as a service animal so they can travel together. I know two people who own restaurants who will not let animals in their establishments. Why lose business and compromise the health of other patrons. I will not eat in a restaurant that allows animals. They tell the few people they have turned away who have threatened to sue to go ahead and sue. They know it mostly bogus too. No one has ever followed up on their threats.

 

So I wonder if the lady on the Glory would get her own life boat because no one was allowed near her or her dog...:D

 

If I knew of any business that turned away people with service dogs not only would I report them to hopefully have their license revoked, but they would never see a dollar of my money in their establishment. SHAME on them!

[sharecruises]

Animals are wonderful, and intuitive, and an asset to almost everyone. That said, people have gotten way out of hand pretending that their animals are service animals. Service animals need to be trained to peform a function, not merely helpful. It's a shame that so many people took advantage that the regulations had to be changed and clarified.

 

I'm primarily a Disney traveler and every single day on those boards there's an argument from someone who gets anxious in crowds so they need their pet to calm them down. That is not providing a service and needs to be stopped. I've not seen many service animals on cruises (and none that seemed to be taking advantage) but I think we all see people every day of our lives who won't be parted from their dogs for a minute. That's who we are talking about.

 

I wish people wouldn't be vilified for offering an opinion. If you have a trained, certified service dog take it everywhere with you. If you are exaggerating because you like your pet or lean on it for emotional support, shame on you for taking advantage of the fact that people can't question your "disability."

 

Great post ! Those who post nonsense like "dogs are cleaner than many people" or "I would rather see dogs than drunks" just do NOT get the point here.

 

NO one is saying that legitimate service dogs should be banned....BUT there is a growing group of people who get their "prescription" from their doctor to have their "companion" certified. And this is what we are talking about

 

Many here are so black/white and either / or.....it gets surreal.

 

I posted about the problem here in south florida.....people getting prescriptions for "anxiety, depression, being lonely" in order to avoid no dog laws in condos.

 

It may be a moot point as the "new" laws were shown to limit the types of "service" animals covered by the ADA

 

 

The dog stroller phenom is really popular. If you are in a mall here and see a stroller, stop to look at the baby it often has a furry face.

 

 

a joke here is "Boca Raton/South Florida.....the place where people keep their kids on leashes and their dogs in strollers"

[AandBmom]

I've read through this whole thread and I have a couple of points to make.

 

1. Who cares if the dog was in a stroller? As someone pointed out, some breeds of dogs can't handle the physical strain of walking long distances, but this doesn't mean they aren't excellent at giving the service that they're trained to give (ie. seizure detection). Does it look weird to see a dog in a stroller? - sure, but why should it bother anyone? It seems to me like that is a safer place for them to be - less chance of getting hurt and for those dog haters out there, wouldn't you prefer that the dog is contained and not touching you or your stuff?

 

2. For those with allergies - I agree it's terrible to have your vacation ruined b/c you came in contact with an animal, but your allergy doesn't supersede someone's physical disability. What about those allergic to nuts or perfumes, etc. How about we all cruise in a bubble so we can't affect anyone else. Seriously, come on. Allergies suck, and they cause the person with the allergy a serious inconvenience, but so do other physical ailments. Just like I have to choose my vacations wisely to accomodate my health issues, so do those with allergies. Wouldn't it be great to not have a physical problem, sure, but you do so work around it yourself. The person with the allergy is responsible for ensuring their own comfort/safety. This means possibly having to change seats if the rare chance of encountering a service dog in a restaurant or theatre comes up. As for the cabin, I do think that the cruise line should designate several cabins as hypoallergenic and not allow those ones to be used by service animals. It should then be the responsibility of the person with severe allergies to seek out a cabin in advance that hasn't had an animal in it. As someone else pointed out pets are allowed on airplanes and it lots of other public places. It's up to the person with the allergy to deal with their own issue and either alter their trip to accomodate their allergy, stay home, take meds, whatever.

 

3. We've already had it explained to us by Valentine's and Brenda's owners that it is very difficult to go on a cruise w/ a service dog from a certification standpoint. So all those making a big issue of "fake" certifications, it sounds like there is a lot more involved than just a certification on the animal. Seriously, how many animals are ever on a cruise? It doesn't seem like there is a big problem w/ fake certifications and fake service dogs everyone on the ships so why even make this argument??? Maybe this is happening elsewhere, but we're talking about cruising.

 

4. Now for those saying they think it's disgusting that a dog is around food, it's not like the service dog is helping himself to all the food on the buffet. Nor is he walking on the tables or food counters. The dog isn't jumping in the pool then giving his fur a big shake and spraying wet fur all over the food. The service dogs are walking through the buffet and laying on the floor by their owner's feet. How is this disgusting? Unless of course you're planning on eating off the floor, but then the dog isn't the dirtiest thing to touch the floor anyway I'm sure.

 

Lastly, to the OP, as someone else pointed out, you may want to research things a little more before making similar posts in the future.

[gogetter]

Oh great...dogs....next thing will be baby carriages.

 

It will be like going to a ccraft fair on a Saturday.

[trailercruiser]

I have sleep apnea and my Pit Bull wakes me when I stop breathing. I guess now i know I can bring Killer(thats his name) with me next cruise. Great thanks for the info.Oh and he doesn't need a stroller.

[celle]

Oh great...dogs....next thing will be baby carriages. And why not?

It will be like going to a ccraft fair on a Saturday.

 

My comment in red.

 

Service dogs are a necessary adjunct to some people's lives.

 

Babies are part of human families. I expect you were one, once. ;)

 

On a cruise ship, there are plenty of places you can go to, to avoid dogs and babies.