Take your pet cruising on Carnival with you !!

[Honolulumikee]

I'm willing to bet those service animals are much cleaner and more well-behaved than a good chunk of passengers. Just sayin.......

 

Passengers still have the right to have a room free of animal dander and hair. I have never seen a dog that treat seazures. I'd rather take my MD then the dog.

[Tripper10]

Yeah and lets put all the people over 55 on one ship, and don't forget about people with kids. They should have one ship too. And while we are at it lets throw in one just for people who smoke. :rolleyes:

 

 

Don't forget the motorized cart ship. You are on to something good.

[sandgrace]

Dog lovers UNITE! ;) My Lab brings me happiness can I take her instead of DH?!? j/k :p

[mcwebber]

If they can make sure you must be 21 to drink or gamble on the ship then they are following United States federal law.

 

There is no such law. Some ships serve alcohol to people over 18. The laws on the ship are the country of the flag. Carnival ships are flagged either Bahamas or Panama.

http://www.frommers.com/articles/4020.html

[LucyR.]

I once saw an owner of a small dog walking around the atrium area and letting her small dog walk around on a re-tractable leash. A lady almost tripped on the leash because she didn't expect to run into a small dog on a leash. The owner told me she didn't have to tell me what her medical problem was. But when she went into ports she would leave her dog in the cabin so I am guessing she had the dog for psychological, emotional support instead of a physical handicapped problem.

 

Some people complained that she allowed her small dog to jump on peoples' laps without their permission. We were all amazed at seeing the small dog but thought the owner was very careless in letting her dog bother other people. Cruisers were not happy seeing the dog on the ship because they would say that they wished they could also take their own dogs on a cruise ship.

 

I personally prefer to leave my dog at home because she is a Jack Russell terrier and is super spoiled and screams very loud if I walk out of my condo without her for a few minutes. She wants to go everywhere with me. I take a vacation from my dog when I go on a cruise.lol. She likes her doggie sitter.

 

I am starting to lose some of my vision but I would rather stay home than to take a service dog on a cruise. I have seen some beautiful large service dogs on the cruise ships. I enjoy looking at them. A lady once told me her service dog makes poop on command on the cruise ships.

 

I think we will be starting to see more service dogs for more reasons. Cats too... because they also have service abilities.

[asb2164]

Do not claim your dog is a service animal in Florida if you are not considered legally disabled.

 

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Service Dogs are for the Disabled, period.

 

The laws are made for the disabled, claiming to be disabled is a crime in most states. Claiming a pet dog, trained or untrained, as a "Service Dog" is a crime in most states. A valid, ADA Public Access Service Dog, is well trained and the handler is legally disabled. The pair can appear before a federal judge and prove both training and disability.

I repeat, it is a FELONY in most states to claim your pet as a trained Service Dog, your dog may be put down and you may face up to 2 months in jail.(in FL)

(REF: Criminal Fraud, Impersonating a Disabled person)

Some of these may apply: FS 414.39 Fraud, F.S. 68.081 Florida's False Claims Act

 

http://www.servicedogsfl.org/docs/fakers.shtml

[cruisingwithoutkids]

On our recent cruise on the Carnival Dream, returning to Port Canaveral on 5/7 AM, there was a couple aboard for the week with their cutsie little arm candy dog !!

We both saw them walk thru the Lido buffet serving area with the little bugger on a leash walking ahead of them & another time we saw the cute little dog in a baby stroller being pushed around on deck 5, probably being taken to the casino for good luck.

We inquired at guest services & were told that this dog was a certified "service dog" !!

He was way too small to be of service to anyone !!

Could this be what we have to look forward to - cruising with fleas, dog poop & all the rest of the surprises that go with dogs ?

Apparently all you have to do is get a "certification" for your dog from your vet that says he is a/your "service dog".

We are not dog owners but this dog looked like a Yorkie type.

Looks like the wife & I will go out & get our own dog to take along on our next cruise as our service dog !!

 

Small service dogs are typically dogs that sense when their owner is about to have a seizure. Don't be too quick to judge as they would have had to supply evidence that this animal was a service dog!

[gemsm]

We are not talking about a red headed man we are talking about unpredictable animals if you can not keep up with the conversation perhaps you should not comment.

The ADA has a history of trampling on other peoples rights to insure the rights of the handicap people, Now I am not saying that the handicap people should not have rights what I am saying is, There is enough staff on the ship that if needed you could call and have a crew member escort you to the dining room and leave the dog in the cabin.

 

I don't buy for one second that you know anyone who is blind or with any other type of handicap. And if you do then i feel very badly for those people. If people need a service dog to have the freedom that I have to interact with society at large then I would be proud to cruise with that dog, eat in a restaurant with that dog and just about anything else.

 

The fact that you wouldn't speaks volumes about the quality of your character

[asb2164]

I don't buy for one second that you know anyone who is blind or with any other type of handicap. And if you do then i feel very badly for those people. If people need a service dog to have the freedom that I have to interact with society at large then I would be proud to cruise with that dog, eat in a restaurant with that dog and just about anything else.

 

The fact that you wouldn't speaks volumes about the quality of your character

 

I can make wild assumptions about your character also but I won't.

[asb2164]

After reading this article I am getting a miniature pony I have suffered from depression for years and I take medication so I do have a disability.

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703652104576122461180284204.html

[gemsm]

I can make wild assumptions about your character also but I won't.

 

I didn't make "wild" assumptions. I based it on your comments in this thread. If it was a "wild" assumption i wouldn't have based it on anything.

 

You get yourself a mini-pony for your depression but good luck as the ADA no longer considers this a service animal. Didn't read the new rules I take it

[iluvdoxies]

On behalf of my DH, thank you.

I get tears in my eyes every time Brenda completes a task and then lays her head on my lap for a pat or a kiss.

She's an amazingly wonderful, devoted and hard working Service Dog. I bless the day I met her, I adore her!

 

God bless you and Brenda !

[alexieb]

And also you think a child that was disfigured by a supposedly properly trained service animal has no rights?

 

 

Please understand that I feel empathy for the terrible accident this child endured. I think that unfortunate accident with that child and the dog is a terrible thing and the child will be traumatized for life as a result. However, denying a disabled person their service animal because of an accident that had nothing to do with them or their animal is just plain wrong. But this is a federal law we are talking about and though it may be upsetting to the child, the denial of a disabled person access to his or her service animal is a violation of the law.

[asb2164]

Please understand that I feel empathy for the terrible accident this child endured. I think that unfortunate accident with that child and the dog is a terrible thing and the child will be traumatized for life as a result. However, denying a disabled person their service animal because of an accident that had nothing to do with them or their animal is just plain wrong. But this is a federal law we are talking about and though it may be upsetting to the child, the denial of a disabled person access to his or her service animal is a violation of the law.

 

The laws are being abused and I have no problem with someone with a true disability having a service animal, But these emotional support animals I think are BS especially when they bring them in public.

People are ordering the vests and credentials for their dogs to get FiFi to fly free. And the way the law reads you can't question it.

[wizard-of-roz]

God bless you and Brenda !

 

Very sweet, thank you!

[alexieb]

The laws are being abused and I have no problem with someone with a true disability having a service animal, But these emotional support animals I think are BS especially when they bring them in public.

People are ordering the vests and credentials for their dogs to get FiFi to fly free. And the way the law reads you can't question it.

 

I think you will find that the vast majority of people with service animals have real disabilities. Especially those on cruises. It is not for us to judge whether a person needs an emotional support animal. Do you have something to say about people who take prescription meds to alleviate anxiety or treat an ailment? This is just another form of treatment. We don't live their lives nor walk in their shoes. There is always a rotten apple in the barrel, but why focus on that? It invalidates all the true service animals. I would much rather focus my thoughts on the fact that a person who has a disability is able to enjoy a better quality of life because of his or her service animal. I am delighted this enables disabled people to take a cruise.

[wizard-of-roz]

The laws are being abused and I have no problem with someone with a true disability having a service animal, But these emotional support animals I think are BS especially when they bring them in public.

People are ordering the vests and credentials for their dogs to get FiFi to fly free. And the way the law reads you can't question it.

 

I certainly understand your frustration and although these items may be purchased online, to actually get a dog onto an airline/cruiseship and any other mode of public transportation is so much trouble.....the offenders may try it once but then they'd realize it's just not worth all the "hoops & whistles" that the dog and handler must go through to make it a very fun experience.

It's work.....hard work to care for and maintain the appropriate behavior for the dog, let alone the maintenance and care that the dog requires!!!!

Try and walk a 75lb Lab through an airport [with all the distractions] and get to your airplane [making sure that the dog has been fed and watered, then toileted] before you must board and be on time; then walk this big dog down the aisle of the airplane, without poking and knocking other folks down, all the while trying to avoid all the sneaky pats that everyone gets in.

Then get yourself seated, bringing the dog into the "huge" foot space [joke] and have the dog "pill-bug" at your feet-while during the flight, the dog must get up and stretch its legs and body, so as to not turn into a crippled mass of fur by the time you land.

If any of you think, by the farthest stretch of your imagination that the hassles ends here......it's only just begun, because now the 75lb Lab MUST relieve itself, while holding it in for the past 5 hours and you've only allowed it to lick on ice chips so as to not fill-up its bladder!!!!!! Now, you have to go searching for a plot of grass/gravel/dirt/wood chips to allow this huge dog to get comfortable. [The DOJ is becoming increasingly aware of the need for a relief area for Service Dogs at all U.S. Airports.] It still takes great planning.

For all the work/hassle/worry......what this dog gives back to the handler far exceeds all of the above....but, is it worth it to the "fraudulent" folks.......I'm not so sure!!!!!!:( Even if they're only carrying around a "FiFi" type dog, the dog still needs to be maintained and handled.

It's the major reason that a lot of folks only do ONE Service Dog in their lifetime.

[FlLadybug]

There are small dogs who are seizure and low blood sugar detecting dogs. There are all kinds of service dogs. I personally would love to bring my little chihuahua on a cruise as they are part of our family and would enjoy being with us. My question is though: If they take the dog off the boat, how do they get past US quarantine laws for animals, even if a service dog? Guess I would have to have a service dog to know.

[gemsm]

Roz...I did notice when we picked up my puppy at BWI - Baltimore Washington International Thurgood Marshall airport (he got shipped here from Utah) that they finally have put in a dog relief area. That only took several years of lobbying to get

[asb2164]

I certainly understand your frustration and although these items may be purchased online, to actually get a dog onto an airline/cruiseship and any other mode of public transportation is so much trouble.....the offenders may try it once but then they'd realize it's just not worth all the "hoops & whistles" that the dog and handler must go through to make it a very fun experience.

It's work.....hard work to care for and maintain the appropriate behavior for the dog, let alone the maintenance and care that the dog requires!!!!

Try and walk a 75lb Lab through an airport [with all the distractions] and get to your airplane [making sure that the dog has been fed and watered, then toileted] before you must board and be on time; then walk this big dog down the aisle of the airplane, without poking and knocking other folks down, all the while trying to avoid all the sneaky pats that everyone gets in.

Then get yourself seated, bringing the dog into the "huge" foot space [joke] and have the dog "pill-bug" at your feet-while during the flight, the dog must get up and stretch its legs and body, so as to not turn into a crippled mass of fur by the time you land.

If any of you think, by the farthest stretch of your imagination that the hassles ends here......it's only just begun, because now the 75lb Lab MUST relieve itself, while holding it in for the past 5 hours and you've only allowed it to lick on ice chips so as to not fill-up its bladder!!!!!! Now, you have to go searching for a plot of grass/gravel/dirt/wood chips to allow this huge dog to get comfortable. [The DOJ is becoming increasingly aware of the need for a relief area for Service Dogs at all U.S. Airports.] It still takes great planning.

For all the work/hassle/worry......what this dog gives back to the handler far exceeds all of the above....but, is it worth it to the "fraudulent" folks.......I'm not so sure!!!!!!:( Even if they're only carrying around a "FiFi" type dog, the dog still needs to be maintained and handled.

It's the major reason that a lot of folks only do ONE Service Dog in their lifetime.

 

My neighbors have a daughter that is in a wheelchair she had some sort of birth defect I have talked to her but never asked what her problem was nor would I.

She has had 2 service dogs over the years that turns on lights and gets things for her, They do not take the dog places like shopping or restaurants they hire a neighbor girl to come let the dog out and feed and water it when they vacation.

I forgot about her dogs because she moved out several years ago the parents took the first dog in as a pet when it got too old to be of service to her.

When they got the new one she had to go down south somewhere for a couple of weeks to be with the dog and for training very expensive process I am sure.

It is the people using fake credentials just so they can take their dog anywhere are scum.

[RenoNanaOz]

Wow, instead of making all sorts of sarcastic assumptions why didn't you just ask the owner what type of service dog it was, even though they don't owe you an explanation.

 

Not only are some breeds trained to signal oncoming seizures, there are some that are also trained in dealing with folks who have sleep apnea. There are also quiet a few service animals trained to assist with our troops that have come back from war and have trouble returning to everyday civilian life. Do some research before you make such snide remarks.

Still not appropriate to take it around food, one of them could have stayed outside. Also my Dh has severe animal allergies so I would not want to come into a room after an animal has been in there. Also this board allows everyone to their opinion, no need to be rude. They weren't they were just simply making a statement.

[gemsm]

Still not appropriate to take it around food, one of them could have stayed outside. Also my Dh has severe animal allergies so I would not want to come into a room after an animal has been in there. Also this board allows everyone to their opinion, no need to be rude. They weren't they were just simply making a statement.

 

Yeah OK...Sorry honey I can't have dinner with you because one of us has to sit outside with Brenda. Seems that someone in the dining room thinks that Brenda lying quietly under the table like she is supposed to is not sufficient and that she shouldn't be allowed around food ever.

 

As for the allergies...that is a tough call but I can't imagine that your DH couldn't have been seated far away from where the dog was.

[RenoNanaOz]

Yeah OK...Sorry honey I can't have dinner with you because one of us has to sit outside with Brenda. Seems that someone in the dining room thinks that Brenda lying quietly under the table like she is supposed to is not sufficient and that she shouldn't be allowed around food ever.

 

As for the allergies...that is a tough call but I can't imagine that your DH couldn't have been seated far away from where the dog was.

Again no need to be rude I wasn't being rude. Also read the entire thing before you post something. Carrying the dog through the buffet line is not acceptable. Yes lying by the owners while they dine is, I have seen it quite often. I was talking about my DH coming into a "cabin" after a dog has been in there not dining with one near!!!!!!!

[wizard-of-roz]

There are small dogs who are seizure and low blood sugar detecting dogs. There are all kinds of service dogs. I personally would love to bring my little chihuahua on a cruise as they are part of our family and would enjoy being with us. My question is though: If they take the dog off the boat, how do they get past US quarantine laws for animals, even if a service dog? Guess I would have to have a service dog to know.

 

In order to bring a dog onboard a cruise ship the dog MUST have a Dept. of Food and Agriculture Animal Health and Food Safety Services Certificate For Interstate or International Movement of Small Animals - Whew! That's a mouth full. And, not all Vets are licensed to give this.

On this Certificate is all the information about the dog, most importantly the Date of Rabies Vaccine/Heartguard usage and flea and tick abatement usage. It asks for a description of the dog where my Vet puts in all the information about her Service training, etc.

Service Dogs are NOT subject to the same quarantine laws as "regular pets!" Hence the proof of the Certificate which says it all.

Hawaii is the toughest for bringing in a Service Dog and requires a Rabies Blood Titer be done prior to the cruise. Hawaii has NEVER had a reported case of Rabies, EVER! There are lots of other countries that require this blood titer report to be amongst the paperwork, as well.

As I've said before........If you see a dog on a cruise, it did not get on easily!!!!!!

[gemsm]

Again no need to be rude I wasn't being rude. Also read the entire thing before you post something. Carrying the dog through the buffet line is not acceptable. Yes lying by the owners while they dine is, I have seen it quite often. I was talking about my DH coming into a "cabin" after a dog has been in there not dining with one near!!!!!!!

 

you said "taking it around food is inappropriate" how was I to know you meant carrying a dog through a buffet line as opposed to dining room?

 

As for the allergies I agree its a tough call but the cabin can be super cleaned prior to your arrival and I doubt your DH would even know there was a dog in there