lego7191 Posted March 31, 2012 #151 Share Posted March 31, 2012 and another blip: "As alleged above, Utopia Cruises, Inc., is a foreign entity duly organized, created and existing pursuant to the laws of Panama, and at all material times was the owner of the MS Carnival Triumph. Utopia Cruises, Inc., has no physical place of business or employees. It is paper Panamanian company established to avoid the law and taxes as a flag of convenience entity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spleenstomper Posted March 31, 2012 #152 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Did anyone post this on JH's Facebook page? :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrotthead Posted March 31, 2012 #153 Share Posted March 31, 2012 This is very curious to me. I'm assuming, from the article, that Triumph won't be leaving port tomorrow. Will be following this story closely. Still can't figure out how Texas got involved. Its not a joke. There are lots of links and documents being posted on social media that explain this. Apparently the lawyer shopped for a sympethic judge and found one in Galveston. And apparently you can file suit in any district that the company conducts business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego7191 Posted March 31, 2012 #154 Share Posted March 31, 2012 and this seems to explain the reason for the emergency motion and order... "Carnival plc is an alter ego of Utopia Cruises, Inc. In reality, Carnival plc, is the true and beneficial owner of the MS Carnival Triumph, currently or soon to be located in this District." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrotthead Posted March 31, 2012 #155 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Did anyone post this on JH's Facebook page? :eek: Yes. But hes on vacation. Im sure omeone emailepd him. But also sure he pwont be able to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #156 Share Posted March 31, 2012 and another blip: "As alleged above, Utopia Cruises, Inc., is a foreign entity duly organized, created and existing pursuant to the laws of Panama, and at all material times was the owner of the MS Carnival Triumph. Utopia Cruises, Inc., has no physical place of business or employees. It is paper Panamanian company established to avoid the law and taxes as a flag of convenience entity." Makes perfect sense now - Triumph is the only ship owned by both defendants, Utopia and Carnival plc. I cant sleep, my heart is so heavy for tomorrows passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spleenstomper Posted March 31, 2012 #157 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Fish taco gets a pass because he/she lives in Oz and so plenty that happens here probably sounds odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrotthead Posted March 31, 2012 #158 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Wouldn't they need to say something for the people who are hoping to cruise soon? For example, if the ship won't sail. Not publicly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spleenstomper Posted March 31, 2012 #159 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I'm betting CCL doesn't even know yet if the ship can do the next sailing... Probably not for the next day or two at least.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #160 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Fish taco gets a pass because he/she lives in Oz and so plenty that happens here probably sounds odd. Not to mention the kick ass accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego7191 Posted March 31, 2012 #161 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Yep - seems that's exactly what they're trying to do....gain jurisdiction "...attaching any assets of Defendants, including the MS Carnival Triumph, for the purpose of securing jurisdiction over the Defendants, and to secure Plaintiff’s claims as described above." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted March 31, 2012 #162 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I looked on Jh FB page there was nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #163 Share Posted March 31, 2012 and this seems to explain the reason for the emergency motion and order... "Carnival plc is an alter ego of Utopia Cruises, Inc. In reality, Carnival plc, is the true and beneficial owner of the MS Carnival Triumph, currently or soon to be located in this District." Thank you, so much for posting all of this. This is why I love Atlanta. Everyone here is so nice <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrotthead Posted March 31, 2012 #164 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I looked on Jh FB page there was nothing. Hes on vacation. Wont check in till Monday...he said that a few days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #165 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Yep - seems that's exactly what they're trying to do....gain jurisdiction "...attaching any assets of Defendants, including the MS Carnival Triumph, for the purpose of securing jurisdiction over the Defendants, and to secure Plaintiff’s claims as described above." So if they're doing it for jurisdiction, does that mean its really only a technicality and not likely to affect things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnival_Brides Posted March 31, 2012 #166 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I doubt he'll have anything before the legal beards do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrotthead Posted March 31, 2012 #167 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I doubt he'll have anything before the legal beards do. He would be able to comment anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego7191 Posted March 31, 2012 #168 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Thank you, so much for posting all of this. This is why I love Atlanta. Everyone here is so nice <3 Get out of town! I didn't realize I was talking to a neighbor! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGentleman05 Posted March 31, 2012 #169 Share Posted March 31, 2012 and the second to the last "ordered" states that it can be released with a letter from the Plaintiff's attorney with no further action from the court. I'm think this is a way to serve Carnival with this lawsuit and obtain jurisdiction and once that is done, the plaintiff's attorney "releases" the ship and sailing commences tomorrow as planned....? That's my hunch about how this will play out. I certainly hope so, for the sake of those scheduled to sail this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #170 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Get out of town! I didn't realize I was talking to a neighbor! :D Born and raised! Where in Atlanta are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego7191 Posted March 31, 2012 #171 Share Posted March 31, 2012 So if they're doing it for jurisdiction, does that mean its really only a technicality and not likely to affect things? If I had to guess (and like I said, I'm not an attorney, I just work for 'em), in everything that I have read and researched tonight, it does seem that they are simply doing this to gain jurisdiction in the Texas court. Seems that only the Federal Marshal can serve this type of maritime warrant. I'd guess if CCL doesn't already have someone on the ground in Galveston to meet the ship and accept service, it'd be served the captain, etc. If you think about it, it's an entire day. Courts will hold emergency hearings on weekends if necessary. CCL beards and/or legal eagles could make emergency trips out there, and I'd also be willing to bet the plaintiff's attorney gave CCL a courtesy heads-up on this so as to not delay the next sailing. I could be wrong but alot of times attys will give each other a heads up about something. (They're not all complete buttheads.) And if all else fails, certainly someone here has connections to someone at CCL and has given them the heads up. And if that's the case, put in a good word for me! I'd love to move to Miami and work at CCL's Miami office in the legal dept!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego7191 Posted March 31, 2012 #172 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Born and raised! Where in Atlanta are you? Love it! Born and raised here also, although I did move to Chattanooga right after the olympics and stayed up there for almost 10 years. I'm in Roswell now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted March 31, 2012 #173 Share Posted March 31, 2012 It ought to be interesting in the court proceedings in italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMDaddy Posted March 31, 2012 #174 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I wonder how much bail will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #175 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Love it! Born and raised here also, although I did move to Chattanooga right after the olympics and stayed up there for almost 10 years. I'm in Roswell now. My sisters and brother are in Ollewah :P You're super close! I'm in Marietta/Kennesaw practically every day. Thats where my kids favorite park is. There, or Centennial :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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