blackbird71 Posted May 25, 2005 #26 Share Posted May 25, 2005 to RuthC and others... I was looking at an around South American cruise and the cheapest for a single wanting his own cabin was..... Silverseas...... 10% single sup plus a good discount... Who would have thought it. I also just did the Amazon on the Radisson SS Mariner for $500 more than the Royal Princess. And the $500 could have been lower but I am a very light drinker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipcafe Posted May 25, 2005 #27 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I was just thinking today that the STATENDAM is already in her 13th year. Another 7 or 8 years and she might be due for replacement! Stephen Such a sad thought - I just love the "S" Class ships! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted May 25, 2005 #28 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I was just thinking today that the STATENDAM is already in her 13th year. Another 7 or 8 years and she might be due for replacement! Blasphemy! Go wash your mouth out with soap. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted May 25, 2005 #29 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Greg, let's be realistic here. HAL's oldest ships are the four S-class. (I'm not factoring the Prinsendam in this; she's a speciality ship.) They will be the first to leave. They will either be replaced with something of a similar ilk, or the atmosphere they provided to the passengers who love them will be gone. One of my concerns now is staffing the new ships. If HAL is having trouble getting enough help (one possibility we've talked about) for the ships they have, then how will they ever staff four new, larger ships adequately? Four larger ships will require more staffing than the four S-class---and that's if the new ships are replacements. If they are additional ships in the fleet then the staffing problems will be magnified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crescoia Posted May 25, 2005 #30 Share Posted May 25, 2005 This is interesting. A couple months back I was reading Carnvil's Annual Report and saw a list of all the new builds coming on-line. (As most readers may know Carnival Corp is the parent for Carnival, Princess, Holland, AIDA, Costa, Cunard, P&O, Ocean Village, Seabourn and Windstar). Anyway they disclosed then that they were building one HAL ship, the Noordam which we all know about and two ships that had yet to be assigned to a particular line. That of course doesn't mean things haven't changed since then, but here is a list of what they published in their SEC report... Ship Commitments Brand & Ship Expected Capacity Carnival- Valor ..................12/04 ........2974 Liberty .................7/05......... 2974 Freedom ..............3/07......... 2974 Princess Crown Princess ....6/06.......... 3110 Un-Named ..........4/07........... 3110 Holland America Noordam............. 2/06........... 1848 AIDA Un-Named........... 5/07........... 2030 Un-Named ...........5/09........... 2030 Costa Costa Concordia ...7/06........... 3004 Cunard Queen Victoria .....12/07.......... 1982 Unassigned Contracts Newbuild ..............4/08............ 3100 Newbuild ..............6/08............ 3000 The Unassigned "New Builds" at the time looked more like they would fit into the Princess style ship, but maybe they are trying something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDWills Posted May 25, 2005 #31 Share Posted May 25, 2005 DH is already looking at Crystal and the Queen Mary 2 for 2007 We've wanted to do a cruise on the QM2 also, but seeing the Queen Vicortia coming in at about the same size as the Vista ships makes me want to see her deck plans and itineraries! I also hope HAL doesn't get one of those unassigned 3000+ passenger ships, the Vista Class is big enough for me. Also, forgive the newbie question, but what is a 'post-Panamax ship'? -Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRINSENDAM Posted May 25, 2005 #32 Share Posted May 25, 2005 We've wanted to do a cruise on the QM2 also, but seeing the Queen Vicortia coming in at about the same size as the Vista ships makes me want to see her deck plans and itineraries! I also hope HAL doesn't get one of those unassigned 3000+ passenger ships, the Vista Class is big enough for me. Also, forgive the newbie question, but what is a 'post-Panamax ship'? -Robin Robin, Don't panic just yet! As far as I know the unassigned 3000 pax ships are for Princess/P&O. I think you may be waiting a long time for QUEEN VICTORIA. My information is that they have not even started cutting steel yet. A 'Panamax' ship is one built to the largest dimensions which can fit the locks. The dimensions are 1000 feet in length and 110 feet wide The VISTA ships are 936 feet length overall and their waterline beam is 105.8 feet. Leaves just 2.2 feet of space either side when going through the locks. A tight squeeze! Draught in the locks is not a problem for the passenger ships. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRINSENDAM Posted May 25, 2005 #33 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Blasphemy!Go wash your mouth out with soap. :eek: Greg, DONE! Quite right too. I think a lot of people will be sad to see the S class ship go, but hopefully that won't be the case for many, many years. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whm Posted May 26, 2005 #34 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Sounds as though the key word here is "heard". Remember the old childs game at school where you sat in a ring and the first person passed some verbal tidbit to the second person and so on until it returned to the starting point. Not resembling the initial tidbit at all! That was taught as a lesson. I guess that some people can only complain and find fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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