CruiseAddict1982 Posted January 10, 2014 Author #151 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Businesses can make any rule they want. That doesn't mean all their customers are going to follow it. If you have kids do you expect them to follow your rules or find ways around them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted January 10, 2014 #152 Share Posted January 10, 2014 If you have kids do you expect them to follow your rules or find ways around them?I want them to follow my rules; I expect them to find ways around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon1225 Posted January 10, 2014 #153 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I want them to follow my rules; I expect them to find ways around them. Good point, Traveler Thom. A rule established by a business is not quite the same as one established by a parent. Businesses establish rules to promote their own profit. Parents are supposed to establish rules based on what is good for the child. I thought I unsubscribed to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseAddict1982 Posted January 10, 2014 Author #154 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I want them to follow my rules; I expect them to find ways around them. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalspin Posted January 10, 2014 #155 Share Posted January 10, 2014 @ Sharon1225 I wonder if there's a way to stop messages from this thread from coming to my email box without blocking all messages from Cruise Critic. Near the top of any page in the thread, find the drop-down labelled Thread Tools, choose Unsubscribe from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseAddict1982 Posted January 10, 2014 Author #156 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I want them to follow my rules; I expect them to find ways around them. I expect my kids to follow the rules so I do the same. Don't want them to cut corners or find ways around the rules so I don't do it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sft429 Posted January 11, 2014 #157 Share Posted January 11, 2014 "Passenger further agrees that Carrier may prohibit or restrict Passenger from bringing any alcoholic beverages for consumption onboard the Vessel and agrees to comply with any Carrier policy covering such matters." That's from the RCI Cruise Ticket Contract. I assume other lines have the same wording. I accepted these rules when I agreed to the contract. If you disagree, don't sign it. Doesn't matter if the rule is stupid, counterproductive, unenforceable, or whatever argument you want to use to justify breaking it. You accepted the contract. Maybe your word means nothing to you, mine does to me. I'll admit that the fact that these rules are broken has absolutely no effect on me, doesn't diminish my cruise experience even a little bit. I just think it's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseAddict1982 Posted January 11, 2014 Author #158 Share Posted January 11, 2014 "Passenger further agrees that Carrier may prohibit or restrict Passenger from bringing any alcoholic beverages for consumption onboard the Vessel and agrees to comply with any Carrier policy covering such matters." That's from the RCI Cruise Ticket Contract. I assume other lines have the same wording. I accepted these rules when I agreed to the contract. If you disagree, don't sign it. Doesn't matter if the rule is stupid, counterproductive, unenforceable, or whatever argument you want to use to justify breaking it. You accepted the contract. Maybe your word means nothing to you, mine does to me. I'll admit that the fact that these rules are broken has absolutely no effect on me, doesn't diminish my cruise experience even a little bit. I just think it's wrong. I agree. I just don't think it's right that I follow the rules and pay like I'm supposed to while others come up with schemes and plots to get their alcohol on board the ship without paying. Doesn't hurt or effect my trip in any way, but it's not fair to the paying customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock43031 Posted January 11, 2014 #159 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I do not drink at all, and my wife would probably drink two glasses of wine an entire cruise, so I have no need to smuggle alcohol onboard. So from my viewpoint, I fail to see the need to have a large quantity of cheap alcohol available to you. OTOH, if the soda package were more expensive, I might smuggle soda onboard. Everyone has their vice. The folks smuggling a couple of runners are not going to that trouble to smuggle cheap booze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted January 11, 2014 #160 Share Posted January 11, 2014 The folks smuggling a couple of runners are not going to that trouble to smuggle cheap booze. In most cases I highly doubt that. Autocorrect responsible for most typos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock43031 Posted January 11, 2014 #161 Share Posted January 11, 2014 the reality is that one never runs into these holier-than-thou folks from CC on a cruise.. I suspect they stay in their rooms way up top and have their butlers go out among the normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted January 11, 2014 #162 Share Posted January 11, 2014 the reality is that one never runs into these holier-than-thou folks from CC on a cruise.. I suspect they stay in their rooms way up top and have their butlers go out among the normal people. Nah, they sit in the bar with the drinks they pay for. Autocorrect responsible for most typos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseAddict1982 Posted January 11, 2014 Author #163 Share Posted January 11, 2014 the reality is that one never runs into these holier-than-thou folks from CC on a cruise.. I suspect they stay in their rooms way up top and have their butlers go out among the normal people. Lol I'm holier than thou because I follow the rules?? I was raised to be a rule follower and my parents followed the rules. Blame then it's their fault for modeling it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted January 11, 2014 #164 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Interesting that a negative: "holier than thou" gets applied to someone who simply expresses lack of enthusiasm for cheating. I acknowledge that other people's decisions about whether they are entitled to cheat a cruise line by reneging on an implicit term of passage is not really my business. However, when they boast of their expertise, or publicly attempt to justify their approach, on threads such as this they are inviting comment. They are not then entitled to take pot shots at those who do comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted January 11, 2014 #165 Share Posted January 11, 2014 interesting that a negative: "holier than thou" gets applied to someone who simply expresses lack of enthusiasm for cheating. I acknowledge that other people's decisions about whether they are entitled to cheat a cruise line by reneging on an implicit term of passage is not really my business. However, when they boast of their expertise, or publicly attempt to justify their approach, on threads such as this they are inviting comment. They are not then entitled to take pot shots at those who do comment. npd. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilricky67 Posted January 11, 2014 #166 Share Posted January 11, 2014 "Passenger further agrees that Carrier may prohibit or restrict Passenger from bringing any alcoholic beverages for consumption onboard the Vessel and agrees to comply with any Carrier policy covering such matters." Now, I'm no lawyer, but I have seen them played on TV but it doesn't say that they DO prohibit or restrict it, just says that they MAY. Sounds discretionary on the part of the cruise line (this one at least). So if you do bring alcohol with you, you are technically not violating their rule, provided you accept that they might take it away. Just to stir the pot some....have you guys ever gone faster than the posted speed limit or ever done a rolling stop at a stop sign? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted January 11, 2014 #167 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Now, I'm no lawyer, but I have seen them played on TV but it doesn't say that they DO prohibit or restrict it, just says that they MAY. Sounds discretionary on the part of the cruise line (this one at least). So if you do bring alcohol with you, you are technically not violating their rule, provided you accept that they might take it away. Just to stir the pot some....have you guys ever gone faster than the posted speed limit or ever done a rolling stop at a stop sign? :D This thread's topic deals with sneaking alcohol aboard ship. I think your question might be more logically asked on a thread dealing with traffic violations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfire Posted January 11, 2014 #168 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We will continue to use Rum Runners as they allow us to enjoy a drink in our cabin while we are on vacation. “Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively.” ― Dalai Lama XIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik101 Posted January 11, 2014 #169 Share Posted January 11, 2014 If you can sneak it in, then I say go for it! Personally, I wouldn't because that's just another item to pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseAddict1982 Posted January 11, 2014 Author #170 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We will continue to use Rum Runners as they allow us to enjoy a drink in our cabin while we are on vacation. “Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively.” Dalai Lama XIV "There's nothing cute or funny or lovable about being cheap. It's a total turn-off." -Douglas Coupland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sft429 Posted January 11, 2014 #171 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Now, I'm no lawyer, but I have seen them played on TV but it doesn't say that they DO prohibit or restrict it, just says that they MAY. Sounds discretionary on the part of the cruise line (this one at least). So if you do bring alcohol with you, you are technically not violating their rule, provided you accept that they might take it away..........:D Perry Mason you're not. From the RCI Guest Conduct Policy: "Guests are not permitted to bring alcoholic beverages onboard; with the exception of embarkation day when guests are permitted to bring onboard with them up to two (2) bottles of wine (which are subject to a corkage fee) per stateroom." No exception for the guest's convenience, no exception if you think it's a stupid rule. I really don't care if you want to smuggle alcohol on board. Just don't tell me that it is right or justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseAddict1982 Posted January 11, 2014 Author #172 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Perry Mason you're not. From the RCI Guest Conduct Policy: "Guests are not permitted to bring alcoholic beverages onboard; with the exception of embarkation day when guests are permitted to bring onboard with them up to two (2) bottles of wine (which are subject to a corkage fee) per stateroom." No exception for the guest's convenience, no exception if you think it's a stupid rule. I really don't care if you want to smuggle alcohol on board. Just don't tell me that it is right or justified. Trying to justify being cheap! Taking away from the tips of the bartenders by smuggling your own alcohol on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfire Posted January 11, 2014 #173 Share Posted January 11, 2014 "There's nothing cute or funny or lovable about being cheap. It's a total turn-off." -Douglas Coupland Taking liquor on board is not against the law, it is against corporate policy on some cruise lines. The penalty if you decide to do this is they will take your liquor and from what I understand they even give your liquor back to you at the end of your cruise if it is in original bottle. I am more than willing to bring liquor on a cruise and take this so called risk. I have never had an issue bringing liquor on the ship and have always been able to have drinks in my cabin when I wanted with no issue. Understanding rules and understanding the consequences if you break the rules is very important to know. I follow most rules but I am much to smart to follow every rule society has placed upon me. “Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.” ― Pablo Picasso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sft429 Posted January 11, 2014 #174 Share Posted January 11, 2014 ... I follow most rules but I am much to smart to follow every rule society has placed upon me. So, you're "much to[sic] smart to follow every rule society has placed" on you. Oh please, you're not Rosa Parks lol! It's not a societal rule, it's a contract that you agreed to, at least on RCI. You just evidently see no value in keeping your word or living up to a contract. But, if it makes you feel better to think it's because you're too smart, well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseAddict1982 Posted January 11, 2014 Author #175 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Taking liquor on board is not against the law, it is against corporate policy on some cruise lines. The penalty if you decide to do this is they will take your liquor and from what I understand they even give your liquor back to you at the end of your cruise if it is in original bottle. I am more than willing to bring liquor on a cruise and take this so called risk. I have never had an issue bringing liquor on the ship and have always been able to have drinks in my cabin when I wanted with no issue. Understanding rules and understanding the consequences if you break the rules is very important to know. I follow most rules but I am much to smart to follow every rule society has placed upon me. “Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.” Pablo Picasso Picasso was an artist not a cheapskate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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