CCJack Posted July 18, 2005 #1 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I was surprised to read in Carnival brochure that smoking is allowed in cabins, and realized that they didn't ask me about non smoking room when I booked (valor). Is this true? We are non smokers. This is my first time on carnival, but other cruises we have taken - we have never had rooms that smelled like smoke, I don't remember if they (RCL) had non smoking rooms, I think they did but don't remember for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycaveat Posted July 18, 2005 #2 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Smoking is permitted in cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrrhus Posted July 18, 2005 #3 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I was surprised to read in Carnival brochure that smoking is allowed in cabins, and realized that they didn't ask me about non smoking room when I booked (valor). Is this true? We are non smokers. This is my first time on carnival, but other cruises we have taken - we have never had rooms that smelled like smoke, I don't remember if they (RCL) had non smoking rooms, I think they did but don't remember for sure. Most budget thru premium cruiselines in the US are smoking in all rooms inclding RCL. They do a great job cleaning rooms and my sensitive anti-smoking **** nose has trouble detecting the smell and I prefer inside cabins. There are only 2 times I noticed the smell: 1. In the pillows which the steward changed out for me quickly and without complaint and 2. One of my balcony rooms when I left the door open and the next door neighbor was smoking outside. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serene56 Posted July 18, 2005 #4 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Even Royal Caribbean allows smoking in all their cabins. If you didnt have a problem there I dont think you will have a problem on Carnival. If you smell smoke in the cabinlet the cabin steward know as soon as possible so they can take care of it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mexicobob Posted July 18, 2005 #5 Share Posted July 18, 2005 It is unfortunate that cruise lines do not do like motels/hotels and have no smoking cabins. It would be greatly appreciated by us non smokers. Do not understand why this can not be done. MexicoBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corina27 Posted July 18, 2005 #6 Share Posted July 18, 2005 It is unfortunate that cruise lines do not do like motels/hotels and have no smoking cabins. It would be greatly appreciated by us non smokers. Do not understand why this can not be done. MexicoBob Carnival's ships always sail at max capacity if they put restrictions on the cabins they will loose money.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F5Loar Posted July 18, 2005 #7 Share Posted July 18, 2005 First off at least one line, Disney does have designated non-smoking cabins so it can be done. Spliting the ship in half allowing one side of rooms smoking and the other side non-smoking would certaintly be a sign the cruise lines are keeping up with the times we live in today. While Carnvial's all non-smoking ship may have been a total flop there is no reason to believe a split ship would not sell out because you notice it's about a dead split on smokers vs. non-smokers on any given cruise. To me the ultimate let down on cruising is to finally get up enough money to book that wonderful balcony stateroom only to find out when you get there that there are heavy smokers on both sides of you. So much for enjoying your expensive "fresh air" space. Or worse yet you book a balcony in the back and the smokers on the Lido deck flick their butts down on your balcony. The cruise lines need to wake up and realize this is a problem, has been a problem and will continue to be a problem until they do something about it. And I don't care what kind of magic "anti-smoke" wand they wave in a room while cleaning it, if you had a heavy smoker in that cabin and a non-smoker is your next guest only a few hours later it will be noticed. Heavy smoke penetrates the walls, the ceiling, the bedding and the carpet. They don't wash the bedspreads every week or shampoo the carpet either. Looks like to me the cruise lines would save money by spliting the ship in half. They won't have to spend as much on cleaning agents on the non-smoking rooms. They would spend less time in the staterooms allowing more attention to details often times overlooking due to the time spent trying to remove stale smoke odors and burn stains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydecocruiser Posted July 18, 2005 #8 Share Posted July 18, 2005 First of all, Carnival did have a non-smoking ship. As far as I know the first and only one. 100%, ship, captain, crew, passengers. They had to abandon for economic reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailinglisa Posted July 18, 2005 #9 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Can you imagine the stink (pun intended) if Carnival did make their ships half smoking and half non-smoking.....and more non-smokers booked than smokers and they had to put some non-smokers in smoking cabins? That is why they don't do it.......and the cruise lines are so good at cleansing the air and furnishings that it is rare to smell ANY type of smoke (cigar, cigarette, pipe) in your cabin. If you do, just call the room steward and have them do their thing and get the stench out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveJake Posted July 18, 2005 #10 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Disney non-smoking in all cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Charlie Posted July 18, 2005 #11 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Most of the mainstream cruise lines are in the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" mode for much of their business plan. As long as they are sailing at or near capacity they have no real incentive to change smoking policies or any other policy or program. Occasionally a line will venture out with a major change like Freestyle or auto tipping and it will pay off. Then other lines will follow. But, in general, if you are serving all of the customers that you can, why change? Until a line determines that they can improve their profit picture by providing non-smoking rooms, it's not going to happen (IMHO) Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Posted July 18, 2005 #12 Share Posted July 18, 2005 ......... ANY type of smoke (cigar, cigarette, pipe) in your cabin. I'm looking at a copy of the Capers from a Sensation cruise. There's an announcement about designated smoking areas. They ask that no cigars be smoked in the cabins. Cigar smoking permitted in open deck areas and the Polo Lounge only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebejeebe Posted July 18, 2005 #13 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I was surprised that the cruiselines allowed smoking in cabins. I would think the risk of fire would move the lines to request that passengers smoke on deck. Smoke smell in a cabin cannot be eliminated --- it can be reduced and masked. The cruiselines should, in my biased opinion, ban smoking in cabins but allow it in the bars and in certain designated places on deck. Smokers would be able to get their fix but allow non-smokers enough clean air to breathe. We all would be safer if drunks did not smoke in their beds.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrounds Posted July 18, 2005 #14 Share Posted July 18, 2005 It is unfortunate that cruise lines do not do like motels/hotels and have no smoking cabins. It would be greatly appreciated by us non smokers. Do not understand why this can not be done. Its all about ECONOMICS. :) Hotels and motels can operate on a significantly lower occupancy rate. Cruise ships can't. They must do everything to fill their ships to 100% or higher every week. Turning down 80 smokers because the smoking cabins are full and leaving port with 40 empty cabins because they didn't get enough non-smokers that week would be financial disaster eventually. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serene56 Posted July 18, 2005 #15 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I was surprised that the cruiselines allowed smoking in cabins. I would think the risk of fire would move the lines to request that passengers smoke on deck. Smoke smell in a cabin cannot be eliminated --- it can be reduced and masked. The cruiselines should, in my biased opinion, ban smoking in cabins but allow it in the bars and in certain designated places on deck. Smokers would be able to get their fix but allow non-smokers enough clean air to breathe. We all would be safer if drunks did not smoke in their beds.:eek: heebee: Have you cruised yet? I dont know how they get rid of the smell but I have yet to be in a cobin that smelled opf smoke--or in one where the smell was masked. Carnival tried a non smoking ship-- it didnt work. Lost big time money. I cant imagine smokers cruising if told they cant smoke in their cabins--one of the reasons we dont sail Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Charlie Posted July 18, 2005 #16 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Just a note: DW smokes, I don't. When we travel I request smoking rooms (when momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy ;) ). On occaision, at check in, we have found that we were assigned a non-smoking room. We call the desk and ask to be moved to a smoking room. The answer, every time, has been: "Housekeeping will bring you some ashtrays." Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted July 18, 2005 #17 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Actually, only 23% of the population are smokers. This means that the strong majority do not smoke. Of those, some are very sensative to cigarette smoke. It would seem that a 50/50 breakdown of rooms would work fine. All smokers would be accomodated and there are many non-smokers who don't care about their accomodations. On the other hand, many non-smokers care very deeply and they would also be satisfied. It certainly could work with a little bit of effort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmtre2 Posted July 18, 2005 #18 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I've never smelled that ashtray smell in a cabin either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted July 18, 2005 #19 Share Posted July 18, 2005 It certainly could work with a little bit of effort! It would be a logistical nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Charlie Posted July 18, 2005 #20 Share Posted July 18, 2005 It would be a logistical nightmare. Absolutely. There are people who want a specific area, side of ship, category, etc. for their cruise. What about people that do smoke in a non-smoking cabin? Will they be put off at the next port? Will the steward report them and risk his entire tip? Yes, it could be done. But, not as easily as some think. JMHO, Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBMom Posted July 18, 2005 #21 Share Posted July 18, 2005 We sailed on the Paradise a few years ago when it was a smoke free ship. It was wonderful. My DH has asthma and I am very sensitive to smoke. You could actually breathe in the casino. The ship was full, but of course it was in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katgar Posted July 18, 2005 #22 Share Posted July 18, 2005 We all would be safer if drunks did not smoke in their beds.:eek: I won't get into the smoker vs. non-smoker debate. This line is what I didn't like! What makes you think all smokers are drunks? That is two separate issues, and I know plenty of drunks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrounds Posted July 18, 2005 #23 Share Posted July 18, 2005 It would be a logistical nightmare. So very very true. And I'm sure Carnival's "bean-counters" would say WHY SHOULD WE ? Statistically (the operative word here) non-smokers gamble less and drink less. :rolleyes: I know, I know, some of you will say, your a non-smoker and you lost $10,000 in a Carnival ship casino last week, and your Sail'n'Sign bar tab was $3,000 ! ! (If so, you're considered a statistical aberration). :D You also need to start attending meetings at Gamblers Anonymous and Alcoholics Anonymous. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrrhus Posted July 18, 2005 #24 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Absolutely. There are people who want a specific area, side of ship, category, etc. for their cruise. What about people that do smoke in a non-smoking cabin? Will they be put off at the next port? Will the steward report them and risk his entire tip? Yes, it could be done. But, not as easily as some think. JMHO, Charlie Or after my boos found out while staying in a hotel in Reston that is non-smoking, he might have to pay a $200 fine. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrrhus Posted July 18, 2005 #25 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I won't get into the smoker vs. non-smoker debate. This line is what I didn't like! What makes you think all smokers are drunks? That is two separate issues, and I know plenty of drunks! Sounds like someone trying to start a fight where there is not a need. I definitly thought the poster meant anyone who gets drunk then goes back and smokes in bed is a health risk to all cruisers. Much more so then someone who gets drunk and doesn't smoke in bed. On the flip side. I think part of the reason smoking is much more prevelant on cruises is the age of the cruiser (still slightly older and the product of a society that had been friendly toward smoking) and the fact that drinking does go with smoking, or rather smoking goes with drinking. And drinking goes with cruising. It's like Vegas, people get stupid when they are on vacation and do things that need to stay in Vegas. I have many a friend that would never dream of smoking, until they get drunk. Now not everyone will do either and many will only smoke or only drink. But we all know the people that will do both then return home to their preaching Anti-Drinking Anti-Smoking job on Sunday ;) Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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