jackjia199637 Posted February 27, 2014 #1 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) The new norm of cruise-ships seems to be between 140,000 and 160,000 tonnage as almost all new cruiseships coming from mainstream cruise-lines are in that range. From the P&O to Norwegian and RCL and Carnvial, they all seems to lock their classes among this range. Do you guys think this is a good range for cruiseships, and if so, why? Or do you feel bored by the similar size/design of all these future ships? Feel disappointed that by 2018, almost 10 years after Oasis Class, there still wont be a larger class than Oasis Class? It would seems approiate to have this discussion at the RCL forum here, as this amazing cruiseline have produced the largest classes of ships for the last 16 years Edited February 27, 2014 by jackjia199637 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager70 Posted February 27, 2014 #2 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The new norm of cruise-ships seems to be between 140,000 and 160,000 tonnage as almost all new cruiseships coming from mainstream cruise-lines are in that range. From the P&O to Norwegian and RCL and Carnvial, they all seems to lock their classes among this range. Do you guys think this is a good range for cruiseships, and if so, why? Or do you feel bored by the similar size/design of all these future ships? Feel disappointed that by 2018, almost 10 years after Oasis Class, there still wont be a larger class than Oasis Class? Can't imagine a ship larger than Oasis class but then again I remember back when the Sovereign class came out I never thought they'd be topped! I love all sizes/classes of ships for different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edjny Posted February 27, 2014 #3 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Some friends took us on our first cruise. We went on Monarch of the Seas on a Bahamas cruise. As we arrived at the dock, we thought the ship was huge. Our friends told us it was a tiny ship..... :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiaguy Posted February 27, 2014 #4 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I read somewhere that Celebrity was going to actually be reducing size in the years to come because the ports were complaining about the environmental impact these massive ships. I wonder if anyone else is going to be following suit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjia199637 Posted February 28, 2014 Author #5 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I read somewhere that Celebrity was going to actually be reducing size in the years to come because the ports were complaining about the environmental impact these massive ships. I wonder if anyone else is going to be following suit? Wow, for real? I would be suprised if the next Celebrity class is not signficantly larger than its amazing Solitice Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeagle12 Posted February 28, 2014 #6 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Wow, for real?I would be suprised if the next Celebrity class is not signficantly larger than its amazing Solitice Class. Nope ... smaller Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjia199637 Posted February 28, 2014 Author #7 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Nope ... smaller Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Do you have a link where I can read about it?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeagle12 Posted February 28, 2014 #8 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Do you have a link where I can read about it?:) Check out the Celebrity boards. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted February 28, 2014 #9 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) The new norm of cruise-ships seems to be between 140,000 and 160,000 tonnage as almost all new cruiseships coming from mainstream cruise-lines are in that range. From the P&O to Norwegian and RCL and Carnvial, they all seems to lock their classes among this range...I'm having a hard time reconciling these statements with your title containing "avg tonnage: 93872.4" If I assume "almost all" is 16 ships (less than 62% of 26 ships) with an average tonnage of 150,000 GRT (the mid point of the range quoted), the remaining 10 ships would have to average roughly 4,000 GRT, which are boats, not ships. Seems like a disconnect somewhere :confused: Thom Edited February 28, 2014 by TravelerThom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmp.dll Posted February 28, 2014 #10 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I think there is a place for Oasis class size vessels, and then a place for a range of smaller ones. There aren't that many ports that can have an Oasis sized vessel call port, and you can't really tender 6000 people that easily. I have yet to go on Oasis class, but from my reading it seems the ship is the destination for a lot of people. I look forward to Allure, but I think I might be more of a Freedom class guy myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjia199637 Posted February 28, 2014 Author #11 Share Posted February 28, 2014 i'm having a hard time reconciling these statements with your title containing "avg tonnage: 93872.4" if i assume "almost all" is 16 ships (less than 62% of 26 ships) with an average tonnage of 150,000 grt (the mid point of the range quoted), the remaining 10 ships would have to average roughly 4,000 grt, which are boats, not ships. Seems like a disconnect somewhere :confused: Thom total new ships on order: 29 total gross tonnage on order: 2,722,300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Valley Posted February 28, 2014 #12 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) total new ships on order: 29 total gross tonnage on order: 2,722,300 I bet the ships included in this are the Viking river ships that only have a couple hundred people and are only a few thousand tons, I think they have 12 more of these on order now. http://www.seatrade-insider.com/news/news-headlines/kfw-ipex-bank-finances-12-viking-longships-for-2015-delivery.html Keith Edited February 28, 2014 by Spring Valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcofuq Posted February 28, 2014 #13 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I look forward to Allure, but I think I might be more of a Freedom class guy myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted February 28, 2014 #14 Share Posted February 28, 2014 total new ships on order: 29 total gross tonnage on order: 2,722,300 Can you give a source for your numbers? Your ship count in the latest msg does not agree with what you originally posted. Hard to make sense of undocumented numbers with no sources which change in mid stream. Your average tonnage may be correct, but if "almost all" gets to 2 out of 3 ships, then the remaining ships have to have NEGATIVE tonnage (be lighter than air). Are air ships making a come back:p Thom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfl Posted February 28, 2014 #15 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I would double-check the numbers here. The average seems lower than the typical range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dog Posted February 28, 2014 #16 Share Posted February 28, 2014 total new ships on order: 29 total gross tonnage on order: 2,722,300 I bet the ships included in this are the Viking river ships that only have a couple hundred people and are only a few thousand tons, I think they have 12 more of these on order now. http://www.seatrade-insider.com/news/news-headlines/kfw-ipex-bank-finances-12-viking-longships-for-2015-delivery.html Keith Most of the river ships are measured in feet and not tonnes. But even scanning the Cruise Critic "New Ship Orders" http://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=167, my observation is that most "large" ships are above 130,000 GRT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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