comxkid Posted July 17, 2014 #151 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) It's really very simple....can your child use his/her sign and sail card to obtain a bottled water? If not....there is a reason. Another question, would you switch drinks in front of a RCL employee? If not, why not? Edited July 17, 2014 by comxkid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thethreechunks Posted July 17, 2014 #152 Share Posted July 17, 2014 It's really very simple....can your child use his/her sign and sail card to obtain a bottled water? If not....there is reason. Another question, would you switch drinks in front of a RCL employee? If not, why not? Again, we're not talking about "mom I want a water go steal me one" it's about in the moment my child wanting water and me switching drinks with her. It's not premeditated, and you bet I would let her have it in front of an employee. No one in their right mind would object. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thethreechunks Posted July 17, 2014 #153 Share Posted July 17, 2014 perhaps banging her head against the wall is whats needed .It might turn on the common sense part of the brain ;cj I guess when you lack intelligent responses you resort to insults. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey & Sophie Posted July 17, 2014 #154 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You are wrong. For it to be 'theft' there must be a party being wronged. My point is even if you wouldn't do it because you feel it's wrong, it doesn't make it theft. What I stated originally was a hypothetical situation not a plan to cheat RC out of a bottled water, which again I paid for... Sent from my iPhone using Forums Um, how about Royal being wronged? Because that's who you're cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comxkid Posted July 17, 2014 #155 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Again, we're not talking about "mom I want a water go steal me one" it's about in the moment my child wanting water and me switching drinks with her. It's not premeditated, and you bet I would let her have it in front of an employee. No one in their right mind would object. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Again, if you know your child is going to want water during the week, upgrade his or her package so that he/she can obtain it without your assistance. I would also guess that if you did this in front of of several RCL bartenders, the majority of them would ask you not to share packages for the remainder of the cruise. There is a potential cost here to all of us...RCL could decide to change the program to make it more expensive in the future through the elimination of certain packages or making all family members have the same type of package (depending on their ages of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thethreechunks Posted July 17, 2014 #156 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Um, how about Royal being wronged? Because that's who you're cheating. Pointless to keep trying to reason with someone who refuses to reason. At this point you must know you're wrong but can't give up the fight. No problem, enjoy the rest of your day off. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comxkid Posted July 17, 2014 #157 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Pointless to keep trying to reason with someone who refuses to reason. At this point you must know you're wrong but can't give up the fight. No problem, enjoy the rest of your day off. Sent from my iPhone using Forums You do know that several posters here could say the same of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellunderwater Posted July 17, 2014 #158 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I get that this is your opinion... But it's just that your opinion. You have been insulting since your initial response. It is absurd considering that A) it has not happened and B) you are talking about a spontaneous minute decision to give my child a water and drink her soda. It makes no sense this is even stillbeing debated. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Since it is spontaneous, it is ok to do something wrong? Sent from my GT-N5110 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thethreechunks Posted July 17, 2014 #159 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Again, if you know your child is going to want water during the week, upgrade his or her package so that he/she can obtain it without your assistance. I would also guess that if you did this in front of of several RCL bartenders, the majority of them would ask you not to share packages for the remainder of the cruise. There is a potential cost here to all of us...RCL could decide to change the program to make it more expensive in the future through the elimination of certain packages or making all family members have the same type of package (depending on their ages of course). Not going to argue. You must not understand or don't want to understand. I am certain what I originally stated does not violate the spirit of the drink package policy. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcruz Posted July 17, 2014 #160 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You are wrong. For it to be 'theft' there must be a party being wronged. My point is even if you wouldn't do it because you feel it's wrong, it doesn't make it theft. What I stated originally was a hypothetical situation not a plan to cheat RC out of a bottled water, which again I paid for... Sent from my iPhone using Forums RC is being cheated as someone is getting something that was not bought with the intent of them drinking it. I guess when you lack intelligent responses you resort to insults. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I am not the one telling others they are WRONG, I am giving my OPINION on what the packages are meant to be. You are the arguing and telling everyone they are wrong. Enjoy the argument, I am done. People will do whatever they want, after all it is their vacation :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thethreechunks Posted July 17, 2014 #161 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Since it is spontaneous, it is ok to do something wrong? Sent from my GT-N5110 using Forums mobile app Wrong for who? A bottle of paid water to my child? You must be insane if you think RCI would object to that. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thethreechunks Posted July 17, 2014 #162 Share Posted July 17, 2014 RC is being cheated as someone is getting something that was not bought with the intent of them drinking it. I am not the one telling others they are WRONG, I am giving my OPINION on what the packages are meant to be. You are the arguing and telling everyone they are wrong. Enjoy the argument, I am done. People will do whatever they want, after all it is their vacation :rolleyes: In the original scenario it was bought with the intention of having the adult drink it. The child has a need the parent meets it. RCI has not lost a penny. But yeah I'm done too... Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comxkid Posted July 17, 2014 #163 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Not going to argue. You must not understand or don't want to understand. I am certain what I originally stated does not violate the spirit of the drink package policy. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I'm not arguing. I understand that in your opinion, this does not violate the spirit of the drink package policy, but factual statements included in the actual policy do not support your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellunderwater Posted July 17, 2014 #164 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Again, we're not talking about "mom I want a water go steal me one" it's about in the moment my child wanting water and me switching drinks with her. It's not premeditated, and you bet I would let her have it in front of an employee. No one in their right mind would object. Sent from my iPhone using Forums So, lets say Susie's soda package was $45. Mom's soda and water package was $65 (for demonstration purposes only). RCL has revenue of $110. Now, Susie has a soda, but wants a water ($3, estimated), so Mom gives her a water. RCL should now have revenue of $113. But, since Mom broke the rules and shared her package with Susie who doesnt get water in her package, RCL is out $3. Yep, no one hurt...no big deal...its just three bucks. Well Mom...I hope no one ever steals $3 from you everyday. Or multiple times a day, everyday. I bet you would let them and no one would object. Especially if they did it right in front of you. Sent from my GT-N5110 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellunderwater Posted July 17, 2014 #165 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Not going to argue. You must not understand or don't want to understand. I am certain what I originally stated does not violate the spirit of the drink package policy. Sent from my iPhone using Forums The spirit of the drink package? Wow. The spirit? I'm sure the RCL execs said they will tell you not to share... but really, we don't care. Share it...no big deal. We aren't here to make money but to provide drinks to anyone someone else decides deserves it. We've had Mother Earth... now the drink package whisperer.... discerning the true intent of drink packages. Sent from my GT-N5110 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey & Sophie Posted July 17, 2014 #166 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You do know that several posters here could say the same of you? Thank you!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelCMTX Posted July 17, 2014 #167 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I find the fear that if people share drink packages, the cruise lines will no longer find it profitable to offer them very amusing. As quoted through a colleague in the vending business chatting with a salesperson from one of the soda suppliers: when you get a soda at a fast food establishment the CUP usually costs them more than the soda itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3o Posted July 17, 2014 #168 Share Posted July 17, 2014 So if we all get (2adults, 3children) some sort of package, kids royal refreshment and mom and dad Royal replenish - and I decide to let my daughter have a bottled water while I have a diet coke - is that also theft? Sent from my iPhone using Forums RCCL ship and RCCL rules on what's allowed on the package. Why don't you call them and ask if what's allowed in your opinion matches their definition? Then it's no longer your opinion versus someone else's; you will hear what they say and that will be "what's right" according to their rules. Then, you can consciously follow RCCL rules or not but you will find out if your scenario is allowed, in practice and in spirit. If they say, sure that's fine, you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEGBRG Posted July 17, 2014 #169 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) LOL -- this thread is starting to become reminiscent of a political thread. Just my opinion, but I can care less whether people share packages or do not. It will not impact my vacation one bit. I will say this though, if I do purchase a drink package and want to give my child a bottle of water, then I will do it. So sue me. Question my parenting skills, etc. I don't care. For those of you who claim to take the moral high ground on everything, has your child ever consumed an alcoholic beverage underage? That is also illegal, just as stealing is. Does that mean you poorly raised your kid? Heck no. It just bothers me if people have shared a beverage package that suddenly makes them a terrible parent. Really people? Edited July 17, 2014 by AEGBRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jake Posted July 18, 2014 #170 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Not going to argue. You must not understand or don't want to understand. I am certain what I originally stated does not violate the spirit of the drink package policy. Sent from my iPhone using Forums it's impossible for a reasonable thinking person to understand your arguments; You can't possibly be serious and if you are I pity you, :cj this sent from my retirement home at the shore .I refuse to message from the beach Edited July 18, 2014 by Captain Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jake Posted July 18, 2014 #171 Share Posted July 18, 2014 LOL -- this thread is starting to become reminiscent of a political thread. Just my opinion, but I can care less whether people share packages or do not. It will not impact my vacation one bit. I will say this though, if I do purchase a drink package and want to give my child a bottle of water, then I will do it. So sue me. Question my parenting skills, etc. I don't care. For those of you who claim to take the moral high ground on everything, has your child ever consumed an alcoholic beverage underage? That is also illegal, just as stealing is. Does that mean you poorly raised your kid? Heck no. It just bothers me if people have shared a beverage package that suddenly makes them a terrible parent. Really people? it makes them parents who teach their children it's OK to steal sometimes. Good parenting.Yeah Right :cj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted July 18, 2014 #172 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Again, we're not talking about "mom I want a water go steal me one" it's about in the moment my child wanting water and me switching drinks with her. It's not premeditated, and you bet I would let her have it in front of an employee. No one in their right mind would object. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Not going to argue. You must not understand or don't want to understand. I am certain what I originally stated does not violate the spirit of the drink package policy. Sent from my iPhone using Forums There are more people that disagree than agree with you so what does that say about people being "in their right mind"? Of course it violates the policy - you just don't want to realize that. ### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowGOT Posted July 18, 2014 #173 Share Posted July 18, 2014 This is too funny..........really? RCI is doing just fine without you "well meaning" folk calling others thieves. RCI is a major corporation that can look after their own affairs. Believe me they do have safeguards in place to protect their interests. It is absolutely 100% none of your business if someone on the drink package gives their significant other a silly bottle of water or a martini.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jake Posted July 18, 2014 #174 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) This is too funny..........really? RCI is doing just fine without you "well meaning" folk calling others thieves. RCI is a major corporation that can look after their own affairs. Believe me they do have safeguards in place to protect their interests. It is absolutely 100% none of your business if someone on the drink package gives their significant other a silly bottle of water or a martini.:) you cannot be serious. you are you to tell me anything? Knock,KNOCK What a joke. If you have a problem with my opinion too bad. Get over it; I will defend honesty over B.S. supporters 24/7 .Thievery cost us billions.Only a fool would truly believe that it's none of our business :cj Edited July 18, 2014 by Captain Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyblue78 Posted July 18, 2014 #175 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Surely Royal's bean-counters know that their are thieves among us and have that factored into the prices of the packages. :( So once again us honest folks pay the price. DH and I will both be paying for our packages for two reasons: 1) It is the right thing to do. ;) 2) I am on vacation, all of the hassle and energy it would take to "stick it to the man" would be a PITA. Would rather pay the money and enjoy what we want, when we want it. :p Edited July 18, 2014 by babyblue78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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