Paul65 Posted March 23, 2015 #26 Share Posted March 23, 2015 How many of us force our families to "dress for dinner" at home. I would expect probably most of us expect our families to "dress for dinner" to some extent. I wouldn't allow my son to come to the dinner table in nothing but his boxer shorts, for example. There would be some limit, but generally a very casual standard at home for just the family. If other guests were over, the standard would go up. And, if we were going out to dinner, the standard I would expect from my family would depend on the restaurant we were going to. I think it's odd that some people think a pair of pants (vs shorts) is an onerous standard for the main dining room on a cruise ship. It's not a super-fancy venue, but the dining rooms do tend to be somewhat elegant. And there are generally multiple other venues that are far more casual. I'm not saying that what other people wear to dinner is a big issue for me; just that I find it odd that some people have a big issue dressing to a standard that is not very strict to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted March 23, 2015 #27 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Yes. I am in my early 20's and I know many that won't go cruising because of this. We are in the 21st century people wake up :eek: Seriously? Won't go cruising because of the fear of being expected to wear a pair of pants to dinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheBanner Posted March 23, 2015 #28 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Seriously? Won't go cruising because of the fear of being expected to wear a pair of pants to dinner? I don't see why wearing a nice pair of shorts would be bothersome to anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted March 23, 2015 #29 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I don't see why wearing a nice pair of shorts would be bothersome to anyone I didn't say it would be. I don't see why the thought of putting on a pair of pants would scare someone away from cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho1973 Posted March 23, 2015 #30 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Where is the option for dirty undershirt and boxers? That's what I want. And bunny pajamas. I want those, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheBanner Posted March 23, 2015 #31 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) I didn't say it would be. I don't see why the thought of putting on a pair of pants would scare someone away from cruising. My point is that it should be optional and not required. Edited March 23, 2015 by UpTheBanner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted March 23, 2015 #32 Share Posted March 23, 2015 My point is that it should be optional and not enforced. So, you just made up the part about people avoiding cruising for fear of having to put on a pair of pants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheBanner Posted March 23, 2015 #33 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) So, you just made up the part about people avoiding cruising for fear of having to put on a pair of pants? The fear of not being allowed to wear shorts on casual nights. I know that when i go to all inclusive resorts the dress codes are much more relaxed. That's what young people want Edited March 23, 2015 by UpTheBanner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted March 23, 2015 #34 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The fear of not being allowed to wear shorts on casual nights Didn't realize the 20-something generation was that feeble. Fear of having to change out of shorts for a couple hours, if they choose to dine in the main dining room is pretty weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 23, 2015 Author #35 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Didn't realize the 20-something generation was that feeble. Fear of having to change out of shorts for a couple hours, if they choose to dine in the main dining room is pretty weak. So you are not in favor of people choosing for themselves and being comfortable on casual night. Please vote and save the debate for another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean View Posted March 23, 2015 #36 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Yes/yes Only on casual and dress pressed belted no gym! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheBanner Posted March 23, 2015 #37 Share Posted March 23, 2015 What is the pain you see when people are wearing shorts i might ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted March 23, 2015 #38 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Didn't realize the 20-something generation was that feeble. Fear of having to change out of shorts for a couple hours, if they choose to dine in the main dining room is pretty weak. You taking only a small fraction of what the OP said and turning it back on him is what is pretty weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted March 23, 2015 #39 Share Posted March 23, 2015 So you are not in favor of people choosing for themselves and being comfortable on casual night. Please vote and save the debate for another thread. I already voted. I was just curious about the statement that the prospect of being expected to wear pants at dinner in one of the several dining options would be enough to drive people away from cruising. Many of the all-inclusive resorts are similar - having some dining venues that allow shorts and others that don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted March 23, 2015 #40 Share Posted March 23, 2015 You taking only a small fraction of what the OP said and turning it back on him is what is pretty weak. Actually, I did not edit what the other person said. He edited his post to add more to it, after I'd already hit the reply button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 23, 2015 Author #41 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I already voted. I was just curious about the statement that the prospect of being expected to wear pants at dinner in one of the several dining options would be enough to drive people away from cruising. Many of the all-inclusive resorts are similar - having some dining venues that allow shorts and others that don't. I know people who feel similarly and they are not in their 20s. They go on vacation to lay on beaches and hang out and whenever we try to get them on a cruise they say it is too stuffy and rigid for their tastes. I try to tell them it's a myth and they have options but it's hard to convince people when they come here and read the dress threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaflamingo Posted March 23, 2015 #42 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Yes with a caveat: Not on Formal Night, and only Dress Shorts and collared shirts. Problem is that once shorts are officially allowed, it will deteriorate to cutoff jeans, short-shorts, gym shorts, camo cargo shorts, etc. Dress Shorts only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted March 23, 2015 #43 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I know people who feel similarly and they are not in their 20s. They go on vacation to lay on beaches and hang out and whenever we try to get them on a cruise they say it is too stuffy and rigid for their tastes. I try to tell them it's a myth and they have options but it's hard to convince people when they come here and read the dress threads. Is it really because they think "no shorts, tank tops or bare feet" for the evening meal in the main dining room is enough to make it too stuffy? That's the part I find surprising, that just that simple minimum rule for one venue during one meal of the day would be enough to turn people away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegirlum Posted March 23, 2015 #44 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't do it (I was brought up to "dress for dinner") but if people want to wear shorts, who cares? There were a lot of people in shorts in the MDR on my recent Brilliance cruise. I was surprised, but it didn't bother me at all. Didn't change the way the food tasted or anything. Frankly, some of the things I saw on formal night were way more offensive than the shorts I saw. I think there should be requirements about how much of your body has to be covered!! Edited March 23, 2015 by bluegirlum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Dutch Girl Posted March 23, 2015 #45 Share Posted March 23, 2015 What is so obnoxious about men's legs that people don't want to see them at the dinner table? This is really a sexist issue since women are "allowed" to let it all hang out as long as they are wearing a dress no matter how short, how low cut, or how tight. I think men's legs are attractive, as well as a good flat butt. I, too, would like to appreciate the finer qualities of a man's physique at dinner (eye candy for women) and really like tight golf shirts and leg revealing shorts. Why do only men deserve some good scenery at dinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 23, 2015 Author #46 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Is it really because they think "no shorts, tank tops or bare feet" for the evening meal in the main dining room is enough to make it too stuffy? That's the part I find surprising, that just that simple minimum rule for one venue during one meal of the day would be enough to turn people away. They think having to dress up is mandatory. I tell them otherwise but sometimes people won't believe it until they experience it. The point is many people may feel cruising is too rigid and regimented. They don't have the experience to know differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho1973 Posted March 23, 2015 #47 Share Posted March 23, 2015 What is so obnoxious about men's legs that people don't want to see them at the dinner table? This is really a sexist issue since women are "allowed" to let it all hang out as long as they are wearing a dress no matter how short, how low cut, or how tight. I think men's legs are attractive, as well as a good flat butt. I, too, would like to appreciate the finer qualities of a man's physique at dinner (eye candy for women) and really like tight golf shirts and leg revealing shorts. Why do only men deserve some good scenery at dinner? Thread winner!!! Bekijk de benen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR LED Posted March 23, 2015 #48 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I wear suits everyday for work. I just want to get away from it all and relax on vacation. Also, it so much easier to pack. Not to mention the cost of airlines baggage fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted March 23, 2015 #49 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) They think having to dress up is mandatory. I tell them otherwise but sometimes people won't believe it until they experience it. The point is many people may feel cruising is too rigid and regimented. They don't have the experience to know differently. That's sort of what I thought; that they probably feel the whole experience is somewhat stuffy, rather than believing a "no shorts, tank tops or bare feet" for dinner in the MDR is stuffy. Edited March 23, 2015 by Paul65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Cruizers Posted March 23, 2015 #50 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) DH & I who are shall we say are 65 + don't concern ourselves with what others wear, even if we get out of our daily shorts and he puts on a nice shirt and pair of pants & I wear long pants and a nice blouse, as long as the person coming to dinner is dressed neatly. Shorts, long pants, makes no differance to us and doesn't affect our meal. On the formal nights, then we do feel one should dress up a little more. We were surprised during our NZ cruise last March, on casual nights, how many men came in cargo shorts and ladies in knee length slacks. Even the formal nights people didn't dress up much, yet no cargo shorts seen on men & more suits. Edited March 23, 2015 by Desert Cruizers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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