wallie5446 Posted April 18, 2015 #51 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I use the 'wine skins' and wrapped a few barrel aged stouts and put them in my checked luggage last yr with no problem. I am taking 2 of The Abyss bommers to share at sail away this Nov. AWESOME! Thanks I will check those out. :D It took a bit, but here they are ready to go in the suitcase's last yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallie5446 Posted April 18, 2015 #52 Share Posted April 18, 2015 My sampling for tonight is by Prairie Artisan Ales in Krebs, OK. It is called the Bible Belt and 13% alc. Imperial Stout aged on coffee, vanilla, chilies, and cacao nibs.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted April 19, 2015 #53 Share Posted April 19, 2015 That refrigeration is a myth. I was in Golden Colorado in 1977 touring Coors. I asked where was a good place to buy some Coors to take back home. was told to go to a store called Apple Jacks. It was the size of a super market that sold nothing but beer, wine and etc. There were aisles and aisles of beer cases with no refrigeration. I had a van and picked up 10 cases Coors cans. None of them were refrigerated and I questioned it and was told there is no truth to it. The beer is not delivered in refrigerated trucks or stored that way. I had to sign a paper that I was not going to resell them because I was from another state. Took them home and gave away 6 packs to friends. I drank some and the novelty wore off. About a year later someone seen that I still had 3 cases left. I gave them to him in trade for Strohs and he knew that they were old. He told me that they still tasted fine to him. I use to drink Strohs and even that changed in quality and taste over the years just like most beers have. It use to be very popular but don't know anyone that drinks it anymore. The bean counters changed too many things and since the brewery has moved they are no longer using Detroit River water and I think that was the secret. :D During the question and answer I asked if Coors was planning on making a light beer. The tour guide emphatically said sir Coors will never make a light beer because Coors is already light. I guess according to him they just changed the label. drink up 🍺🍻 Maybe that was true in 1977, but in the late '60s when I was in college in California the Coors (and only the Coors) was all kept in the walk-in refrigerator in all the stores. And the case I bought in Kansas City, KS (from the refrigerator) was spoiled by the time I got it back to NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shipshape sam Posted April 20, 2015 #54 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Maybe that was true in 1977, but in the late '60s when I was in college in California the Coors (and only the Coors) was all kept in the walk-in refrigerator in all the stores. And the case I bought in Kansas City, KS (from the refrigerator) was spoiled by the time I got it back to NY. I can remember the tales about Coors. I was stationed in Wichita Falls, TX in Air Force and Coors was the beer of choice. I will say that a couple of times friends brought us back Coors from Texas and it was not cold. I just remember or thought it could not be sold east of the Mississippi. Funny now as I think of it Late 70's I enjoyed Strohs till we could no longer get in Atlanta area. I don't remember who bought them out. Edited April 20, 2015 by shipshape sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallie5446 Posted April 20, 2015 #55 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I can remember the tales about Coors. I was stationed in Wichita Falls, TX in Air Force and Coors was the beer of choice. I will say that a couple of times friends brought us back Coors from Texas and it was not cold. I just remember or thought it could not be sold east of the Mississippi. Funny now as I think of it Late 70's I enjoyed Strohs till we could no longer get in Atlanta area. I don't remember who bought them out. Sam, We're you there before or after the big wind that leveled WF? EW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miched Posted April 20, 2015 #56 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I can remember the tales about Coors. I was stationed in Wichita Falls, TX in Air Force and Coors was the beer of choice. I will say that a couple of times friends brought us back Coors from Texas and it was not cold. I just remember or thought it could not be sold east of the Mississippi. Funny now as I think of it Late 70's I enjoyed Strohs till we could no longer get in Atlanta area. I don't remember who bought them out. I think it was Coors, then Molson. The reason that Coors wasn't sold east of the Mississippi was they didn't have the resources or facilities to support it. When they went nation wide like many breweries they lost control and also too much in debt. The Strohs family became a disaster of mismanagement when the kids took over. There was a lot of fighting between the members, drug addiction, scandals and etc. Google who owns the beer brands. The results are very interesting. Even Bud is no longer owned by their family. drink up 🍻🍺 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc78 Posted April 20, 2015 #57 Share Posted April 20, 2015 My sampling for tonight is by Prairie Artisan Ales in Krebs, OK.It is called the Bible Belt and 13% alc. Imperial Stout aged on coffee, vanilla, chilies, and cacao nibs.:eek: If you can find this where you're at you should give it a try. Its delish! It was a collaboration though so they're pretty hard to find. We've got two we're aging now but havent seen them out this way since Nov-Dec :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvetwater Posted April 20, 2015 #58 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) This is a revelation...craft beers on Celebrity! Makes me want to book celebrity even more. We actually had really tasty Cigar City brews on Carnival. As a proud CAMRA member with a brewing husband and brother I will say quality beer will not go off when out of the cold. If your beer went off then it was either crap to start with,through light, extreme heat (such as a radiator) or it was 'infected' with foreign substance.I adore craft ale and craft beer and can drink most guys under the table ;). I spent my later youth drinking a lot of strong Belgian beers (even the 15% barely wine styles) and still do. My main problem is any novelty ale though...any wierd flavour is great and I recently had the most delicious Jasmine tea IPA. As a British lass I will say beer is fine warm and flat when done right. In Tampa we left some of our beers in the sun a bit to perk up...you dont chill a stout! :) If you come across Mongozo (a Belgian brewery who specialise in ancient beer recipes) drink as many as you can. Edited April 20, 2015 by Velvetwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggertastic Posted April 20, 2015 #59 Share Posted April 20, 2015 This is a revelation...craft beers on Celebrity! Makes me want to book celebrity even more. We actually had really tasty Cigar City brews on Carnival. As a proud CAMRA member with a brewing husband and brother I will say quality beer will not go off when out of the cold. If your beer went off then it was either crap to start with,through light, extreme heat (such as a radiator) or it was 'infected' with foreign substance.I adore craft ale and craft beer and can drink most guys under the table ;). I spent my later youth drinking a lot of strong Belgian beers (even the 15% barely wine styles) and still do. My main problem is any novelty ale though...any wierd flavour is great and I recently had the most delicious Jasmine tea IPA. As a British lass I will say beer is fine warm and flat when done right. In Tampa we left some of our beers in the sun a bit to perk up...you dont chill a stout! :) If you come across Mongozo (a Belgian brewery who specialise in ancient beer recipes) drink as many as you can. Have you tried the range from 'the wild beer co' I got the mixed case and thee are some real interesting ones in there We're on eclipse in less than 3 weeks just for a couple of night so will take a hint around to see what they have. We got a notification that gastro was going in the passport bar rather than cellar masters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigybean Posted April 20, 2015 #60 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Michael's Club and their beer selection on the Summit was what made me decide to sail on Celebrity for my first time a couple of years ago. I am again shopping for a cruise and was hoping Celebrity had not gotten rid of their great beer selection when they made Michael's Club suite only. Good to hear that there are still beer lovers out there and beers worth drinking to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miched Posted April 20, 2015 #61 Share Posted April 20, 2015 If you can find this where you're at you should give it a try. Its delish! It was a collaboration though so they're pretty hard to find. We've got two we're aging now but havent seen them out this way since Nov-Dec :rolleyes: Apparently they are hard to find and probably impossible by now. This is from Stone's website http://www.stonebrewing.com/collab/ If you have some it is probably all you will ever have as it is something that will never be brewed again. Once the supplies are gone that is it. drink up 🍺🍻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Arizona Posted April 20, 2015 Author #62 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Thanks for all the replys. I will have to take pictures and post when I get back in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscobeans Posted April 20, 2015 #63 Share Posted April 20, 2015 As a proud CAMRA member with a brewing husband and brother I will say quality beer will not go off when out of the cold. If your beer went off then it was either crap to start with,through light, extreme heat (such as a radiator) or it was 'infected' with foreign substance. As a British lass I will say beer is fine warm and flat when done right. In Tampa we left some of our beers in the sun a bit to perk up...you dont chill a stout! :) I've been brewing my own for over 30 or so years and with all the fine malts and hops available today I am spoiled to the point of not liking anything I can find other than a Samuel Smith brew once in a while or a Blackcastle mix if I'm desperate for a beer with dinner. All my brews are basically rich flavored northern browns with low carbonation and alcohol content under 4%. I can sit down and enjoy drinking for a few hours and still remember who I am..LOL. I guess the main difference with my brews and true CAMRA's is that instead of doing my final fermentation to carbonate the beer in the keg I do it in a bottle. I love how the brews each mellow and change over the months, I guess in the same way real ales change once they are tapped. bosco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallie5446 Posted April 21, 2015 #64 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Tonight's sampling is a bit more mellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscobeans Posted April 21, 2015 #65 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I use to joke about the correlation of ABV to taste that the higher the alcohol content the better it tastes. Having brewed a few batches of beer and keeping up with the latest news about the industry and beer I read a article that it is a lot harder to make a good tasting beer that is low in alcohol than one that has a higher content. That is why you may not find many smaller breweries with lower ABV beers. . I think that tastes have changed and there is an increased demand for super hopped up beers with bitterness factors (IBU's) of 100 and higher and very high (to me at least) ABV's. Mine are all at 4% ABV or slightly lower with IBU's at around 20. With a good bit of cleanliness and a bit of patience, anyone who can follow a recipe can knock out some killer session ales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsb Posted April 21, 2015 #66 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think that tastes have changed and there is an increased demand for super hopped up beers with bitterness factors (IBU's) of 100 and higher and very high (to me at least) ABV's.Mine are all at 4% ABV or slightly lower with IBU's at around 20. With a good bit of cleanliness and a bit of patience, anyone who can follow a recipe can knock out some killer session ales. Yes. Hottest brews around Indiana are the Bourbon Barrels--ABV 9-14% And next the IPAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallie5446 Posted April 26, 2015 #67 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Had a very nice Imperial Porter from Ballast Point in San Diego last night. Not barrel aged, but still a 10% alc, Victory At Sea, with coffee & vanilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallie5446 Posted May 1, 2015 #68 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Yes. Hottest brews around Indiana are the Bourbon Barrels--ABV 9-14%And next the IPAs Here is the new thing from Prarie in the little town of Krebs, OK, an Imperial Stout aged in TEQUILA barrels! Oh my it is nice. Find it, you will enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigybean Posted May 1, 2015 #69 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Prairie has two places that brew. Their brewery is actually in Tulsa, OK This is the site where all of their keg beers and 750's are filled, and where the brew master Chase lives. Any of the standard sized bottles like the one in your picture are contract brewed at the Choc brewery in Krebs. Prairie makes a very very solid lineup of beers. They really like their stouts, farmhouse ales and their sours. Luckily I do to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr DK Posted May 1, 2015 #70 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Good choice! I enjoy Sierra Nevada. I do think they are now owned or at least partly owned by one of the larger multi national brewers, but hey as long as they maintain quality and favor, I am okay. Absolutely untrue! Sierra Nevada is a privately owned brewery located in our home town of Chico, CA. Ken Grossman, the founder, is still the sole owner of Sierra Nevada. Until last year all Sierra Nevada beer was produced in Chico. They have just opened a second brewery in Ashville, NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc78 Posted May 1, 2015 #71 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Couple of what we've been sampling in our neck of the woods :) I could have coffee like this every morning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicogirl Posted May 2, 2015 #72 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Absolutely untrue! Sierra Nevada is a privately owned brewery located in our home town of Chico, CA. Ken Grossman, the founder, is still the sole owner of Sierra Nevada. Until last year all Sierra Nevada beer was produced in Chico. They have just opened a second brewery in Ashville, NC. Hello fellow Chico neighbor. You are so right. Ken Grossman is sole owner, sense he bought out his partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallie5446 Posted May 2, 2015 #73 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Had a little 10 mile run this morning, then one of the local craft brewers took real nice care of us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc78 Posted May 4, 2015 #74 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Had a little 10 mile run this morning, then one of the local craft brewers took real nice care of us! Awesome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggertastic Posted May 15, 2015 #75 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Loving what eclipse did to passport - 4 beer fridges and a beer sommelier now in the bar Edited May 15, 2015 by Tiggertastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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