SoFlaAtty Posted September 5, 2019 #3151 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 hours ago, seasidemama said: that $1,500 is nice! Strange how it shows the junior suite as $1,250 and then Balcony at $1,400... Nearly every offer has different cabin categories, and trade-in values all over the map, from $0 to $1,500 (+???). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaylemh Posted September 5, 2019 #3152 Share Posted September 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Daghis said: The trade-in values for (e-)mailed offers are getting bizarre. It had been that balcony offers would have a trade-in value of $1,000, and junior suite offers would have a value of $1,250. These are the last few on my list (from ClubRoyaleOffers.com😞 I don't know what specific cruises are included in this last one, but at a trade-in value of $1,500, it might very well have significant value on, say, a 3- or 4-night cruise. I really wonder how they figure out the offers. I have the same Holiday Offers with $1250 trade in, but my Labor Day offer is only for $300 off and no trade in. My September offer has a $500 trade in. My $1250 trade in paid for a December 7 night cruise solo on Anthem in a balcony cabin. I only paid for taxes/port fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaAtty Posted September 6, 2019 #3153 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) I would kill for $1,400 and $1,500 TIV’s!!! At 15,800+ points, but received $500 and $600 TIV’s on those 2 most recent offers. PS - My holiday offers carried a $750 TIV. Edited September 6, 2019 by SoFlaAtty Typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted September 6, 2019 #3154 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Same wonky trade-in values here. Highest cabin category on the September offer is a Jr. Suite, but TIV is $2,250? Not complaining, but no rhyme or reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelli0927 Posted September 9, 2019 #3155 Share Posted September 9, 2019 How do I figure out what status we are? (Choice, prime, etc?) My husband just received a free inside cabin and I received $200 off or freeplay, but it doesn't say what level we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENSAILING Posted September 9, 2019 #3156 Share Posted September 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, Kelli0927 said: How do I figure out what status we are? (Choice, prime, etc?) My husband just received a free inside cabin and I received $200 off or freeplay, but it doesn't say what level we are. You need to call Club Royale. 1-888-561-2234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted September 12, 2019 #3157 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 3:58 PM, soflalaw said: Think this might help everyone understand the types of offers available through this Variable Offer (code dependent). How often are these published (I see it says July- is there a September one?) AND where can we find a current list? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavcmy Posted September 12, 2019 #3158 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Belated thank you to Wally Alligator for posting 191RCL809 info while I was gone. Appreciate you, Carley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflalaw Posted September 12, 2019 #3159 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, seasidemama said: How often are these published (I see it says July- is there a September one?) AND where can we find a current list? thanks! seasidemama, These are dragged from the pits of Hades (well either Montego Bay, Jamaica, Springfield, Oregon, or Guatemala City, Guatemala). You have to call CR after you see that you have an offer on www.clubroyaleoffers.com, as we never receive an e-mail identifying which sailings are included in which offer. They are not just issued on any regular basis by CR for all to download. Rather, the CR agents you call on the telephone can get them at some point (hours, sometimes days) after a new Offer Code is posted online, and they can then e-mail these listings to you once available. Edited September 12, 2019 by soflalaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted September 12, 2019 #3160 Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, soflalaw said: seasidemama, These are dragged from the pits of Hades (well either Montego Bay, Jamaica, Springfield, Oregon, or Guatemala City, Guatemala). You have to call CR after you see that you have an offer on www.clubroyaleoffers.com, as we never receive an e-mail identifying which sailings are included in which offer. They are not just issued on any regular basis by CR for all to download. Rather, the CR agents you call on the telephone can get them at some point (hours, sometimes days) after a new Offer Code is posted online, and they can then e-mail these listings to you once available. OK, got it 🙂 I thought you had some special link I could bookmark.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted September 14, 2019 #3161 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 7:22 PM, seasidemama said: OK, got it 🙂 I thought you had some special link I could bookmark.. Tried getting a list yesterday, no success. Maybe someone else will have more luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted September 14, 2019 #3162 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 7:22 PM, seasidemama said: OK, got it 🙂 I thought you had some special link I could bookmark.. A list of ALL the offers out there at the moment is meaningless because if the offer is not available to YOU, the codes don't matter. You can see what offers YOU have at any given time by going to www.clubroyaleoffers.com and entering your name & C&A number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted September 14, 2019 #3163 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, pcakes122 said: A list of ALL the offers out there at the moment is meaningless because if the offer is not available to YOU, the codes don't matter. You can see what offers YOU have at any given time by going to www.clubroyaleoffers.com and entering your name & C&A number. Seeing the range of offers based on level is hardly meaningless. While it may be inapplicable, it is a good way to compare what is being offered at any given time by the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaylemh Posted September 14, 2019 #3164 Share Posted September 14, 2019 59 minutes ago, seasidemama said: Seeing the range of offers based on level is hardly meaningless. While it may be inapplicable, it is a good way to compare what is being offered at any given time by the program. You can't even compare offers by level. I'm SIgnature and get offers from $250 off to a JS. People that are Prime sometimes get better deals than me on the same offer. There is no rhyme or reason how they decide who gets what. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted September 14, 2019 #3165 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Just now, gaylemh said: You can't even compare offers by level. I'm SIgnature and get offers from $250 off to a JS. People that are Prime sometimes get better deals than me on the same offer. There is no rhyme or reason how they decide who gets what. I meant by offer level not by tier level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted September 14, 2019 #3166 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, seasidemama said: Seeing the range of offers based on level is hardly meaningless. While it may be inapplicable, it is a good way to compare what is being offered at any given time by the program. Not true at all. Offers are made based on ADT, not level. I am Signature and my offers are very different from other Signature players. We've compared notes on other forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted September 14, 2019 #3167 Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, pcakes122 said: Not true at all. Offers are made based on ADT, not level. I am Signature and my offers are very different from other Signature players. We've compared notes on other forums. Right. I did mean offer level by ADT not by CR tier level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcakes122 Posted September 14, 2019 #3168 Share Posted September 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, gaylemh said: You can't even compare offers by level. I'm SIgnature and get offers from $250 off to a JS. People that are Prime sometimes get better deals than me on the same offer. There is no rhyme or reason how they decide who gets what. Exactly! Scroll up in this thread and I posted some of my recent offers. I have offers ranging from Balcony to Grand Suite. (I'm Signature also.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaAtty Posted September 15, 2019 #3169 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, pcakes122 said: Not true at all. Offers are made based on ADT, not level. I am Signature and my offers are very different from other Signature players. We've compared notes on other forums. pcakes122, Do you mainly play tables games? If so, which ones, and how much per hand? Hours per day? Slots? If so, at $5+ per round? How long? I am trying to wrap my head around how to maximize offers. I am Prime status. I was primarily (and before this last cruise, solely was) playing blackjack ($100+) per hand, then tried craps last cruise ($25/30 place bets min, up to $100/$120 when pushing). Finally played Dancing Drums the last night of that cruise. I won 1 $1,400+ handpay, but ended feeding a net $2,500 to the casino for craps plays. However, got over 4,000 points that night for slot play. I ask your games and levels, solely for informational purposes. I hope that I am not offending you. I am heading back for a weekend cruise this coming weekend, and would like to process this information, to optimize my expected CR points/offers results. Edited September 15, 2019 by SoFlaAtty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted September 15, 2019 #3170 Share Posted September 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, SoFlaAtty said: pcakes122, Do you mainly play tables games? If so, which ones, and how much per hand? Hours per day? Slots? If so, at $5+ per round? How long? I am trying to wrap my head around how to maximize offers. I am Prime status. I was primarily (and before this last cruise, solely was) playing blackjack ($100+) per hand, then tried craps last cruise ($25/30 place bets min, up to $100/$120 when pushing). Finally played Dancing Drums the last night of that cruise. I won 1 $1,400+ handpay, but ended feeding a net $2,500 to the casino for craps plays. However, got over 4,000 points that night for slot play. I ask your games and levels, solely for informational purposes. I hope that I am not offending you. I am heading back for a weekend cruise this coming weekend, and would like to process this information, to optimize my expected CR points/offers results. I know this was directed at another poster, but just to throw theoreticals around, if you're looking at most cruises being 7 nights and taking that as a base, if you would aim at hitting signature on a 7 night for an ADT that would get you noticed then the math would be as follows: 25,000/7 = 3,572 points per night I don't work for the casino dept, but I think that if you're hitting 4,000 points/night regardless of the length of the cruise you should be getting GS comps easily. (not the instant certificate on the short sailing but future offers.) Now the experts will chime in 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaAtty Posted September 15, 2019 #3171 Share Posted September 15, 2019 seasidemama, Thank you for your feedback. Unfortunately, after our last cruise 3.5 weeks ago, the offers received from CR have gone from balconies and junior suites, to solely interior and oceanview. This despite my earning 4000+ points on last night on slot machine, and 1800+ points the prior 2 nights on blackjack and craps. I am thoroughly confused as to why my offers went downward in quality when I earned over 5800 points on a 3 night, weekend cruise. 54 minutes ago, seasidemama said: I know this was directed at another poster, but just to throw theoreticals around, if you're looking at most cruises being 7 nights and taking that as a base, if you would aim at hitting signature on a 7 night for an ADT that would get you noticed then the math would be as follows: 25,000/7 = 3,572 points per night I don't work for the casino dept, but I think that if you're hitting 4,000 points/night regardless of the length of the cruise you should be getting GS comps easily. (not the instant certificate on the short sailing but future offers.) Now the experts will chime in 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted September 15, 2019 #3172 Share Posted September 15, 2019 7 hours ago, SoFlaAtty said: seasidemama, Thank you for your feedback. Unfortunately, after our last cruise 3.5 weeks ago, the offers received from CR have gone from balconies and junior suites, to solely interior and oceanview. This despite my earning 4000+ points on last night on slot machine, and 1800+ points the prior 2 nights on blackjack and craps. I am thoroughly confused as to why my offers went downward in quality when I earned over 5800 points on a 3 night, weekend cruise. Wow, that DOES sound very inconsistent with what everyone else has been posting, although some people insist there really isn’t any rhyme or reason behind what offers are sent out. Might you be getting offers based on an earlier sailing because it could be the case that whatever play you had 3.5 weeks ago has not yet factored into whatever offers you are seeing right now as those might have been generated prior to your Club Royale/casino marketing data (or whatever dept. sends these out) being updated from the ship with most recent play? I would call the casino dept. and inquire and specifically mention adt and relatively high point accrual for short cruise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaAtty Posted September 15, 2019 #3173 Share Posted September 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, seasidemama said: Wow, that DOES sound very inconsistent with what everyone else has been posting, although some people insist there really isn’t any rhyme or reason behind what offers are sent out. Might you be getting offers based on an earlier sailing because it could be the case that whatever play you had 3.5 weeks ago has not yet factored into whatever offers you are seeing right now as those might have been generated prior to your Club Royale/casino marketing data (or whatever dept. sends these out) being updated from the ship with most recent play? I would call the casino dept. and inquire and specifically mention adt and relatively high point accrual for short cruise... seasidemama, First RCCL cruise since 2015, was 4/21/19 sailing in Quantum (Shanghai). Just under 4300 points on 5 night cruise playing blackjack. Free cruise certificate (interior/$500) and Prime status. Offers followed starting nearly 3-3.5 weeks later, mainly oceanview cabins, some balconies. Second cruise, Navigator (Miami), 6/21/19, 3 nights weekend cruise, only 2100 points playing blackjack. Offers continued but mixed oceanview and balconies, some junior suites, but cannot sail 7+ days due to work. Next cruise, Navigator, 7/29/19, 4 nights, just under 3800 points, playing blackjack. Offers now primarily balconies, some oceanview cabins and a few junior suites. Most recent cruise, onboard Navigator, 8/23/19, 3 nights, weekend, blackjack, craps and Dancing Drums slot machine. 5600+ points. Offers declined to primarily Interior cabins, some oceanview (no balconies nor junior suites). I truly cannot figure out the pattern, or if there is one. That’s why I am seeking information from others here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted September 15, 2019 #3174 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, SoFlaAtty said: seasidemama, First RCCL cruise since 2015, was 4/21/19 sailing in Quantum (Shanghai). Just under 4300 points on 5 night cruise playing blackjack. Free cruise certificate (interior/$500) and Prime status. Offers followed starting nearly 3-3.5 weeks later, mainly oceanview cabins, some balconies. Second cruise, Navigator (Miami), 6/21/19, 3 nights weekend cruise, only 2100 points playing blackjack. Offers continued but mixed oceanview and balconies, some junior suites, but cannot sail 7+ days due to work. Next cruise, Navigator, 7/29/19, 4 nights, just under 3800 points, playing blackjack. Offers now primarily balconies, some oceanview cabins and a few junior suites. Most recent cruise, onboard Navigator, 8/23/19, 3 nights, weekend, blackjack, craps and Dancing Drums slot machine. 5600+ points. Offers declined to primarily Interior cabins, some oceanview (no balconies nor junior suites). I truly cannot figure out the pattern, or if there is one. That’s why I am seeking information from others here. Only thing I would figure is that they are just now sending you offers based on your June/July cruises. I don't think their system updates all that often for monthly/seasonal offers. Personally, I would hold off on booking more for a month or two and wait and see if the offers improve. Slots are easier to earn points as you saw, but play what you like. I would still call and ask. On your last cruise you earned in 1 night more than the total of each of your previous two cruises - logically offers should improve - but I don't know if there is any logic to it... only thought is lag in system updating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaAtty Posted September 15, 2019 #3175 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, seasidemama said: Only thing I would figure is that they are just now sending you offers based on your June/July cruises. I don't think their system updates all that often for monthly/seasonal offers. Personally, I would hold off on booking more for a month or two and wait and see if the offers improve. Slots are easier to earn points as you saw, but play what you like. I would still call and ask. On your last cruise you earned in 1 night more than the total of each of your previous two cruises - logically offers should improve - but I don't know if there is any logic to it... only thought is lag in system updating. seasidemama, I would refrain from any more bookings for awhile, but we have 15 sailings (not all with my DW, 1 with BIL, several solo) starting this Friday, 9/20/19, continuing through the end of March 2020. DW played slots for the first time this past cruise. Earned 400 points. She is planning on playing slots this coming weekend to earn points, and I may play using her card as well to bump up her points, make Prime, and enhance our future offers and our annual cruise. I should get to Signature with this many sailings before the end of the CR year in March 2020. Any additional advice for us combined re: CR points and Prime/Signature status is appreciated. Edited September 15, 2019 by SoFlaAtty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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