Ramjet1997 Posted October 27, 2015 #1 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I just read where Norwegian is starting to build it's new ships with casino smoking areas which are totally separate - in other words the majority of the casino will not smell like smoke anymore. What do you think about this as it relates to the smoke filled casinos on Royal ships? Even if you just walk through the Royal casinos, your clothes and hair will immediately smell like cigarette smoke. Do you think that Royal will get smart and eliminate smoking in their casinos, or at least truly isolate the smoking area with doors and a separate air ventilation system, similar to what you now find in many airports? On all 5 cruises we took this year, smoke and the smell of smoke in the casinos was my # 1 complaint - anyone else feel this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha43 Posted October 28, 2015 #2 Share Posted October 28, 2015 On all 5 cruises we took this year, smoke and the smell of smoke in the casinos was my # 1 complaint - anyone else feel this way? I do. It's awful. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted October 28, 2015 #3 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'd rather smell cigarette smoke than hear a screaming baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha43 Posted October 28, 2015 #4 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'd rather smell cigarette smoke than hear a screaming baby. LOL.....true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted October 28, 2015 #5 Share Posted October 28, 2015 LOL.....true! I'm an ex-smoker too. Just can't understand why people get so upset about cigarette smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkvillain Posted October 28, 2015 #6 Share Posted October 28, 2015 It's been a real bloodbath on the NCL board the past few days with the smoking issue. They finally deleted the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanley Posted October 28, 2015 #7 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I just read where Norwegian is starting to build it's new ships with casino smoking areas which are totally separate - in other words the majority of the casino will not smell like smoke anymore. What do you think about this as it relates to the smoke filled casinos on Royal ships? Even if you just walk through the Royal casinos, your clothes and hair will immediately smell like cigarette smoke. Do you think that Royal will get smart and eliminate smoking in their casinos, or at least truly isolate the smoking area with doors and a separate air ventilation system, similar to what you now find in many airports? On all 5 cruises we took this year, smoke and the smell of smoke in the casinos was my # 1 complaint - anyone else feel this way? I liked the Oasis because the casino is tucked away and you don't smell the smoke much. But I had issues on the Freedom of the Seas. We walked outside rather than go through the casino. The smoke was really bad one night when we were trying to look at our photos. When playing games in Schooners we tried to get seats on the far side of the room to avoid the smoke coming out of the casino. I will not cruise on the Epic again because everything is based off the casino. It's the only NCL ship I have tried. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincicruisers Posted October 28, 2015 #8 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Nothing lights a flame faster than a smoking thread. As long as folks are smoking in designated area I don't have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramjet1997 Posted October 28, 2015 Author #9 Share Posted October 28, 2015 So you are OK with the person smoking and sitting across from you (or at the slot machine directly behind yours) because he/she is in the "smoking area" and you are not? On Royal the only deliniation in their casinos of smokers vs. non smokers is an invisible "line" that they made up to assuage both groups, only the non smokers inhale the second hand smoke constantly....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cot427 Posted October 28, 2015 #10 Share Posted October 28, 2015 While I don't gamble much, I am glad NCL is doing with on their new ships (and hopefully Breakaway and Getaway) because of the way they are designed. On Oasis and Freedom, you can get by not having to go through the casino by using the promenade one floor above. On NCL's new ships, they build the casino around the 678 Ocean Place on deck 7, so the smoke filters through and you can definitely smell it outside of the actual casino area. So I am very glad they are doing this, just for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery Seas Cruiser Posted October 28, 2015 #11 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Celebrity does not allow smoking anywhere in its casinos. Perhaps some of the posters here should consider Celebrity. I'm glad to learn NCL will separate smoking and non-smoking rooms on its new ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabansail Posted October 28, 2015 #12 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'm an ex-smoker too. Just can't understand why people get so upset about cigarette smoke. I don't know either. Having a Tobacco Allergy which can vary. Sometimes exposure making me feel unwell to having a thumping frontal lobe headache. In bad times it can include nausea and vomitting. This can be from just a whiff of smoke or sometimes from the smell from a smokers dirty clothes. I can see no reason to be upset at all. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted October 29, 2015 #13 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Why not just make smokers put a plastic bag over their heads while they're smoking.... Until they make smoking ILLEGAL, then the smokers have some rights to do what they want to do..... I remember when everyone smoked everywhere...in grocery stores, hospitals, schools....the situation has improved greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabansail Posted October 29, 2015 #14 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Why not just make smokers put a plastic bag over their heads while they're smoking.... What a good idea. Until they make smoking ILLEGAL, then the smokers have some rights to do what they want to do..... Yes they do .... but they often do not realise, or care about, the effect they have on others. Maybe the safer drugs, like heroin, cocaine, ecstasy, etc should be made legal. I remember when everyone smoked everywhere...in grocery stores, hospitals, schools....the situation has improved greatly. I too remember those days too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv my furbaby Posted October 29, 2015 #15 Share Posted October 29, 2015 While I agree smokers have the right to smoke, I should not have to breathe or smell the smoke. I like the casino also, but will not go in because of the smoke. I've seen many smokers just go to the casino so they can smoke!! The invisible line between smoking and non-smoking doesn't work - only separate rooms or really great ventilation systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheehanDJ Posted October 29, 2015 #16 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I would support this 100% if it would eliminate smoking threads. However it won't. If there was a completely separate casino for smokers only, there would be complaints from non-smokers who went in there because of some slot machine that was their favorite, or some dealer who had a shift in there, or some planned event at a specific time that they wanted to participate in. The same would hold true if RCCL launched "Nicotine of the Seas" a smoking only ship. Non-smokers would want to book cruises on it, then complain about the smoke. Or complain that the ship shouldn't be allowed because it is docked next to a non-smoking ship (the whole time ignoring the tons of diesel being burned by both ships). The simple fact is that the issues with smokers by the majority of the complaining non-smokers comes down to control and has little to do with smoking at all. It is politically correct to complain about smokers. Smoking is dangerous and unhealthy they should quit. So is being over weight, but if I started a thread about all the fatties on cruise ships and they should be isolated into specific areas so we didn't have to look at them I would be crucified. Yes, but smoking effects everyone around you. When someone smokes you are forcing them to smoke too! That cruise ship we are all on is dumping more carcinogens into the air (that we all are breathing) over the course of a week than all the smokers on board combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted October 29, 2015 #17 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yes, but smoking effects everyone around you. When someone smokes you are forcing them to smoke too! That cruise ship we are all on is dumping more carcinogens into the air (that we all are breathing) over the course of a week than all the smokers on board combined. +1 :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_nyc Posted October 29, 2015 #18 Share Posted October 29, 2015 While I agree smokers have the right to smoke, I should not have to breathe or smell the smoke. I like the casino also, but will not go in because of the smoke. I've seen many smokers just go to the casino so they can smoke!! The invisible line between smoking and non-smoking doesn't work - only separate rooms or really great ventilation systems. Totally agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhDUnderTheSea Posted October 29, 2015 #19 Share Posted October 29, 2015 If RCI is reading this board; please consider my voice as one that would support separate enclosed smoking areas in order to create a truly non-smoking section within the casino. No straw men arguments or citing bad data. Just my preference. Best- Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewlrybabe Posted October 29, 2015 #20 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Why not just make smokers put a plastic bag over their heads while they're smoking.... Until they make smoking ILLEGAL, then the smokers have some rights to do what they want to do..... I remember when everyone smoked everywhere...in grocery stores, hospitals, schools....the situation has improved greatly. Would you folks like a smoke free ship? Carnival Paradise worked out real well! NOT! Edited October 29, 2015 by jewlrybabe add a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabansail Posted October 29, 2015 #21 Share Posted October 29, 2015 A sort of solution would be to have a few Smoking Rooms around the ships which have a slight negative air pressure (sealed room with extraction fans and restriction on the inlets and double doors) These rooms are in some airports now. I am guessing that the gamblers may not like having to leave to smoke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debitoo Posted October 29, 2015 #22 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I don't like the smell of smoke so I avoid the casino. If they banned it, most likely I'd gamble. It's probably saving me a lot of money. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabansail Posted October 29, 2015 #23 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I have thought about trying gambling but then there is always paint drying somewhere that needs to be watched or grass growing. Looks like I will be vice free on the seas. Don't gamble, allergic to tobacco and it will be a drink free holiday too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniDanielle Posted October 29, 2015 #24 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I have to say on ten cruises the casino smoke was not a big problem. Maybe we were just lucky and were with considerate smokers[emoji12] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted October 30, 2015 #25 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Would you folks like a smoke free ship? Carnival Paradise worked out real well! NOT! I don't gamble so I really don't care but Celebrity is completely interior smoke free and it seems to be working for them. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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