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2. Is the Djurgårdsfärjan stop at Vasa - or just the one near Abba? np happy to walk

I have taken the Djurgården ferry. It stops very close to the Vasa - just by Gröna Lund's main entrance on Djurgården. It is a very short, pleasant walk from here to the Vasa (about 5 minutes).

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Teamflames,

 

1. I am not sure but would guess that not many know of the ferry (M/S Emelie).

2. It has three stops, Old Town/Slussen (at the Old customs house at Skeppsbron), Skeppsholmen (I think you need to notify in advance that you want to get off their) and Allmänna Gränd (Djurgården).

 

3. Cruise ship stop is Londonviadukten) From Old Town eastern side (Slottsbacken or Räntmästartrappan) bus #53 towards Henriksdalsberget or Finnberget,

From Old Town western side. No direct bus.

 

From Slussen, either #53 as mentioned above, bus #71 towards Jarlaberg, bus #409 towards Duvnäs Utskog, bus # 449 towards Ektorp or bus #471 towards Västra Orminge.

All 4xx buses are less frequent then #53 and #71.

 

If you go by bus from Slussen also see these maps to find the right bus berth:

http://sl.se/ficktid/karta/vinter/Slussen_term.pdf

http://sl.se/ficktid/karta/vinter/S%C3%B6dermalmstorg_term.pdf

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Vasa is a must and so is Old Town.

 

I have not visited the City hall or Abba the museum but I think both are worth a visit.

 

The choice I would make is to choose Abba over the City hall for the following practical reasons:

 

1. Abba allows you to make a ticket reservation in advance, guaranteeing you to be able to get in at a certain point.

For the CH you can only visit it by going on their guided tours and tickets can only be bought on location at the CH. The English tours starts every 30 minutes.

2. At AB. you can leave when you feel that you are ready as opposite to doing a guided tour,

3. Abba is just some 500-600m walk from Vasa and have harbour ferries berthing just 100m away which will take you directly to Old Town.

No need to spend time on buying bus tickets or travel cards anything like that. Just pay when you board the ferry (or HoHo boat in the morning)

 

The order you should it is: Vasa->Abba->Royal Palace->Old Town.

As for transport use HoHo boats or ferries in the morning, then use Djurgårdsfärjan when going from Abba to Old Town.

Finally as you suggested yourself, walk from Old Town to ship, but remember to use the scenic route.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/59.3220666,18.0728581/59.3201541,18.0723134/59.3184197,18.0793997/59.3174054,18.0837847/59.3169023,18.0895764/59.3154131,18.0947155/59.3144474,18.0988529/59.3155461,18.1035429/@59.3188738,18.0906095,15.25z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e2

 

btw what is the "scenic" route? i follow your map route?

what is the incorrect route?

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I think the scenic route is on the top of the cliff, with beautiful wiews on Stockholm : Katarinavägen, Fjällgatan, Erstagatan ( nice church in a garden, view on the town). The "wrong way" should be the seaside road, very busy and not panoramic. If you are tired, bus n° 53 takes the scenic road, you may stop for photos and take the next one. Bus 53 stops not far from s167.

 

 

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btw what is the "scenic" route? i follow your map route?

what is the incorrect route?

 

I think the scenic route is on the top of the cliff, with beautiful wiews on Stockholm : Katarinavägen, Fjällgatan, Erstagatan ( nice church in a garden, view on the town). The "wrong way" should be the seaside road, very busy and not panoramic. If you are tired, bus n° 53 takes the scenic road, you may stop for photos and take the next one. Bus 53 stops not far from s167.

 

 

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Yep, AL54 is correct. Scenic route means nice view and surroundings with less traffic, it is longer and much more elevated though.

 

Views from the scenic route;

https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3185649,18.0787035,3a,24.4y,332.75h,90.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szak72nUW1ZaItNnoqcCsPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3185649,18.0787035,3a,45.4y,46.86h,95.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szak72nUW1ZaItNnoqcCsPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3173682,18.0849753,3a,75y,277.17h,80.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJCETPJSOd3kmvuYuxjh3Nw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3172286,18.0883285,3a,50.4y,348.21h,92.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjVWimLe26DHQCT0reYfWEA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

Non scenic route:

https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3197972,18.0751206,3a,78.1y,115.98h,96.12t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1so-F_LVJAfms7uClcAGziaw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Do-F_LVJAfms7uClcAGziaw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D34.510864%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@59.318956,18.078451,3a,89.9y,93.47h,106.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sU8MkGJPbSwNgF8EOQ_nizw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3172432,18.0906474,3a,90y,3.79h,107.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTLnHxyV_VuWhmb34n9ZwBQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

For the last link, if you are unlucky there might be a ferry or two that obstructs the view here.

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A "hidden" Old town actually exists on Djurgården island, near Gröna Lund amusement park and Skansen.

This small area is called Djurgårdstaden. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djurg%C3%A5rdsstaden

https://jfdetokandastockholm.wordpress.com/geografi-2/djurgardsstaden/

http://www.bebyggelseregistret.raa.se/bbr2/anlaggning/visaHelaHistoriken.raa;jsessionid=3066F31A9800079CCACDA91E444C3FF3?anlaggningId=21300000015989&historikId=21000000543672

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Breda+gatan,+115+21+Stockholm,+Sverige/@59.3229137,18.0990986,3a,60y,37.8h,90.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIE75N57nqD57fU77J3RSNQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f82aa8e5e5b6b:0x3fe308b7d5451979

https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3239144,18.0981834,3a,90y,297.52h,91.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syXLaBTWn0tW3-FWZwv0M6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Breda+gatan,+115+21+Stockholm,+Sverige/@59.3236275,18.098848,3a,60y,166.72h,96.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFZo6d200SKqBstRh60gZlw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f82aa8e5e5b6b:0x3fe308b7d5451979

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Breda+gatan,+115+21+Stockholm,+Sverige/@59.3233695,18.0987657,18.2z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f82aa8e5e5b6b:0x3fe308b7d5451979

 

This small wooden house is called Dödgrävarbostaden (the grave-digger's house)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/L%C3%A5nga+gatan+10,+115+21+Stockholm,+Sverige/@59.3234579,18.0992443,3a,75y,199.13h,75.14t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJ6Jak_UG9F8s3Nr3oQzY_Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DJ6Jak_UG9F8s3Nr3oQzY_Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D143.12151%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f82aa92bacfbd:0xd198290eb6fabf23

 

This small square is called Skampålens torg (Pranger square): https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3228515,18.0990016,3a,86.7y,206.84h,68.36t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGNd3Xh1G4jCJhpPFPUPkkg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DGNd3Xh1G4jCJhpPFPUPkkg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D229.70277%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

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A "hidden" Old town actually exists on Djurgården island, near Gröna Lund amusement park and Skansen.

This small area is called Djurgårdstaden. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djurg%C3%A5rdsstaden

https://jfdetokandastockholm.wordpress.com/geografi-2/djurgardsstaden/

http://www.bebyggelseregistret.raa.se/bbr2/anlaggning/visaHelaHistoriken.raa;jsessionid=3066F31A9800079CCACDA91E444C3FF3?anlaggningId=21300000015989&historikId=21000000543672

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Breda+gatan,+115+21+Stockholm,+Sverige/@59.3229137,18.0990986,3a,60y,37.8h,90.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIE75N57nqD57fU77J3RSNQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f82aa8e5e5b6b:0x3fe308b7d5451979

https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3239144,18.0981834,3a,90y,297.52h,91.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syXLaBTWn0tW3-FWZwv0M6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Breda+gatan,+115+21+Stockholm,+Sverige/@59.3236275,18.098848,3a,60y,166.72h,96.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFZo6d200SKqBstRh60gZlw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f82aa8e5e5b6b:0x3fe308b7d5451979

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Breda+gatan,+115+21+Stockholm,+Sverige/@59.3233695,18.0987657,18.2z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f82aa8e5e5b6b:0x3fe308b7d5451979

 

This small wooden house is called Dödgrävarbostaden (the grave-digger's house)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/L%C3%A5nga+gatan+10,+115+21+Stockholm,+Sverige/@59.3234579,18.0992443,3a,75y,199.13h,75.14t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJ6Jak_UG9F8s3Nr3oQzY_Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DJ6Jak_UG9F8s3Nr3oQzY_Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D143.12151%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f82aa92bacfbd:0xd198290eb6fabf23

 

This small square is called Skampålens torg (Pranger square): https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3228515,18.0990016,3a,86.7y,206.84h,68.36t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGNd3Xh1G4jCJhpPFPUPkkg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DGNd3Xh1G4jCJhpPFPUPkkg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D229.70277%26pitc%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

 

thanks for this, so could walk from Vasa to here, and then looks like ferry stop near Abba (correct)? and then over to old town?

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thanks for this, so could walk from Vasa to here, and then looks like ferry stop near Abba (correct)? and then over to old town?

 

Yes that is correct. 1. Vasa, 2, Ferry Berth, 3., Djurgårdsstaden

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/59.3280533,18.0920775/Stockholm+Allm%C3%A4nna+gr%C3%A4nd+brygg/59.3243047,18.0977735/@59.3241187,18.0966168,17.14z/data=!4m10!4m9!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x465f9d5547c2528b:0x30c914a4f5a65e1d!2m2!1d18.094564!2d59.3240724!1m0!3e2

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the christening of Prince Oskar will take place at the Royal Chapel in the Royal Palace in Old Town, Stockholm on Friday May 27th.

This means that the chapel (and possible other areas of the Royal Palace) will not be open for visitors for a few days around that date.

 

http://www.kungahuset.se/royalcourt/media/pressreleases/pressreleases/hrhprinceoscarwillbechristenedintheroyalchapel.5.274e83ca152f44100913940.html

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the christening of Prince Oskar will take place at the Royal Chapel in the Royal Palace in Old Town, Stockholm on Friday May 27th.

This means that the chapel (and possible other areas of the Royal Palace) will not be open for visitors for a few days around that date.

 

http://www.kungahuset.se/royalcourt/media/pressreleases/pressreleases/hrhprinceoscarwillbechristenedintheroyalchapel.5.274e83ca152f44100913940.html

 

Will the Royal Palace be open on May 31st?

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I don't know how much or if at all this will affect cruise passengers/tourists in Stockholm, but anyway.

Klarabergsgatan that stretches from Centralstation to Sergelstorg will be closed permanently for car traffic from next week.

The road will be re-opened in 2018 but as a Pedestrian zone/pedestrian precinct.

This is the part that will be closed: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/59.3310718,18.0581705/59.3324762,18.0646116/@59.3311386,18.0583609,18.13z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e2

 

According to the article, bus traffic will still be allowed but I don't now for how long, they can hardly drive buses while the road is torn up or when it will re-open as a ped.zone.

 

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=103&artikel=6405579

 

Another matter is that there since April 1st is a new law that regulates compensations when there is delays when you are travelling with public transport.

There are three levels of compensations:

 

  • 20-40min delay. 50% refund of the ticket price.
  • 40-60min delay, 75% refund of the ticket price.
  • More then 60 minutes, full refund of the ticket price.

The maximum possible refund is 1100SEK.

To be eligible, you need to file a claim at the public transport operator/company within two months of the journey.

 

 

http://www.hallakonsument.se/tips-for-olika-kop/kopa-tjanster/resor/reseguide/forsenad-installd-eller-overbokad-buss/?isFromPreviousStep=true

http://sl.se/sv/info/nyheter/ny-lag-for-ersattning-vid-forseningar/

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Is it possible to buy this before arriving Stockholm? If so, can we board the bus or train as soon as we arrive?

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Is it possible to buy this before arriving Stockholm? If so, can we board the bus or train as soon as we arrive?

 

No unfortunately it is not. I don't know why but that is the way it is.

If you want to pre-purchase tickets, you can use the official ticket app though but it only sells single tickets.

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Vasa is a must and so is Old Town.

 

I have not visited the City hall or Abba the museum but I think both are worth a visit.

 

The choice I would make is to choose Abba over the City hall for the following practical reasons:

 

1. Abba allows you to make a ticket reservation in advance, guaranteeing you to be able to get in at a certain point.

For the CH you can only visit it by going on their guided tours and tickets can only be bought on location at the CH. The English tours starts every 30 minutes.

2. At AB. you can leave when you feel that you are ready as opposite to doing a guided tour,

3. Abba is just some 500-600m walk from Vasa and have harbour ferries berthing just 100m away which will take you directly to Old Town.

No need to spend time on buying bus tickets or travel cards anything like that. Just pay when you board the ferry (or HoHo boat in the morning)

 

The order you should it is: Vasa->Abba->Royal Palace->Old Town.

As for transport use HoHo boats or ferries in the morning, then use Djurgårdsfärjan when going from Abba to Old Town.

Finally as you suggested yourself, walk from Old Town to ship, but remember to use the scenic route.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/59.3220666,18.0728581/59.3201541,18.0723134/59.3184197,18.0793997/59.3174054,18.0837847/59.3169023,18.0895764/59.3154131,18.0947155/59.3144474,18.0988529/59.3155461,18.1035429/@59.3188738,18.0906095,15.25z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e2

 

Hi Desdichado62

 

Our cruise is in August and arriving in Stockholm On Aug. 16, Tuesday. Norwgian Star's Berth is S364. We want to do Vasa first, then we will try to catch the Free walking tour of Gamla Stan outside the Metro station of Gamla Stan.

 

is it better just to take the taxi from the Berth since everybody will try to take the HoHo boat? We are a party of 11. So we thought, if we share the cab ride it would be cheaper to go to Vasa.

Also, from Vasa, is it easier to take the cab to catch the walking tour?

 

Since we don't have enough time, we thought Vasa and Gamla Stan are the points we need to see. ABBA would be nice even the Nobel museum but reality check, we can't do it all.

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Hi Desdichado62

 

Our cruise is in August and arriving in Stockholm On Aug. 16, Tuesday. Norwgian Star's Berth is S364. We want to do Vasa first, then we will try to catch the Free walking tour of Gamla Stan outside the Metro station of Gamla Stan.

 

is it better just to take the taxi from the Berth since everybody will try to take the HoHo boat? We are a party of 11. So we thought, if we share the cab ride it would be cheaper to go to Vasa.

Also, from Vasa, is it easier to take the cab to catch the walking tour?

 

Since we don't have enough time, we thought Vasa and Gamla Stan are the points we need to see. ABBA would be nice even the Nobel museum but reality check, we can't do it all.

 

I think if you are 11 persons, pre-booking taxi's would be faster then going with the HoHo since there is a risk that all of you would not go on the same boat and etc.

 

From Vasa on the other hand, it depends on when you are feel that you are finished with Vasa and when the free walking tour starts.

You could probably use Djurgårdsfärjan but it would obviously be more expensive then using taxi.

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I think if you are 11 persons, pre-booking taxi's would be faster then going with the HoHo since there is a risk that all of you would not go on the same boat and etc.

 

From Vasa on the other hand, it depends on when you are feel that you are finished with Vasa and when the free walking tour starts.

You could probably use Djurgårdsfärjan but it would obviously be more expensive then using taxi.

 

when yo say pre-booking taxi's, do you mean make a reservation, or just get a cab outside in the port.

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when yo say pre-booking taxi's, do you mean make a reservation, or just get a cab outside in the port.

 

Make a reservation. Especially since you are a large group.

Also I forgot to say that your ship's berth is S167 and not S364.

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Make a reservation. Especially since you are a large group.

Also I forgot to say that your ship's berth is S167 and not S364.

 

We are planning to head to VASA very early as well when we arrive on Celebrity Silhouette on July 9. We have tickets to the ABBA museum for 12:30, and felt we would tour VASA until it was time to head there.

 

We are a group of 7. Would you recommend a taxi reservation for us rather than the hoho boat? Our ship docks at 9:00AM, so we could be at VASA by 9:30??

 

What taxi would you recommend?

 

TIA!

Lisa

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We are planning to head to VASA very early as well when we arrive on Celebrity Silhouette on July 9. We have tickets to the ABBA museum for 12:30, and felt we would tour VASA until it was time to head there.

 

We are a group of 7. Would you recommend a taxi reservation for us rather than the hoho boat? Our ship docks at 9:00AM, so we could be at VASA by 9:30??

 

What taxi would you recommend?

 

TIA!

Lisa

 

Yeah I think so for larger groups. See first post for general info about taxis.

 

What time does the buses depart from the cruise port?

 

What buses, which cruiseport and when?

 

Also one of the maps links in the first post is no longer valid so here is the new link: http://sl.se/resources/maps/geographics/2016/7510.Innerstan.2016.html

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Yeah I think so for larger groups. See first post for general info about taxis.

 

 

 

What buses, which cruiseport and when?

 

Also one of the maps links in the first post is no longer valid so here is the new link: http://sl.se/resources/maps/geographics/2016/7510.Innerstan.2016.html

 

Thanks Desdichado62

I checked Taxi Stockholm. Do you know they have guided tours. If you are a big group and you share the amount - it will come out not bad. I am now talking to them directly.

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