Very Frequent Flyer Posted March 1, 2016 #1 Share Posted March 1, 2016 http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-ideas/best-of-travel/cruise-ship-food-10680-hot-dogs-just-tip-of-the-iceberg/news-story/75172182961eb2adf62fc67d6804fe8f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted March 1, 2016 #2 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Amazing, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 1, 2016 #3 Share Posted March 1, 2016 And about 25-30% of that is ground up and pumped overboard as fish food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomko2 Posted March 1, 2016 #4 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Truly amazing. Also really like that photo of the aft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Steve Posted March 1, 2016 #5 Share Posted March 1, 2016 "31,900 bottles of beer on the wall, 31,900 bottles of beer...." :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CatsInMA Posted March 1, 2016 #6 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Now if only they could use hot dog buns that didn't resemble cardboard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATC cruiser Posted March 1, 2016 #7 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Now if only they could use hot dog buns that didn't resemble cardboard... It is all in the bun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotel CA Posted March 1, 2016 #8 Share Posted March 1, 2016 More Vodka bottles than Rum each week???? I gotta cut back on my Vodka consumption............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted March 2, 2016 #9 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Interesting article. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted March 2, 2016 #10 Share Posted March 2, 2016 And about 25-30% of that is ground up and pumped overboard as fish food. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 2, 2016 #11 Share Posted March 2, 2016 And about 25-30% of that is ground up and pumped overboard as fish food. Wow. I remember that there was one poor galley utility who was assigned to the utility pulper (a large industrial garbage disposal, that is part of a centralized system of disposals around the ship) at night, from the time the restaurants closed until midnite or so, and the galley crew would bring down the garbage cans full of cooked, unused food, and he would use a coal shovel to shovel the stuff into the pulper all night. Whatever he couldn't get ground up by the time his shift was done, was stored in the garbage refrigerator (yep, in order to keep the garbage sanitary), until the poor schlub on the day shift could get to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted March 2, 2016 #12 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I remember that there was one poor galley utility who was assigned to the utility pulper (a large industrial garbage disposal, that is part of a centralized system of disposals around the ship) at night, from the time the restaurants closed until midnite or so, and the galley crew would bring down the garbage cans full of cooked, unused food, and he would use a coal shovel to shovel the stuff into the pulper all night. Whatever he couldn't get ground up by the time his shift was done, was stored in the garbage refrigerator (yep, in order to keep the garbage sanitary), until the poor schlub on the day shift could get to it. Are there geographical restrictions as to where this pulped food can be dumped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig103 Posted March 2, 2016 #13 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Great article! I wonder about the liquor; not the number they are quoting but if it's actually loaded in the USA. I always assumed that the booze was purchased in a tax friendly port along the way, like the Bahamas. Another Fun fact - MSC employees told us that they ran out of beer and most liquor on AN Australian cruise that had a huge veteran's and military group on board. A whole container had to be loaded part way through the cruise! And about 25-30% of that is ground up and pumped overboard as fish food. I dunno about that number, maybe you do, but what I was told on Celebrity is that most waste is from the buffet. The logistics of the MDR allows for them to predict rather accurately what is needed and what is likely to be served based on a fleet of prior cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 2, 2016 #14 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Are there geographical restrictions as to where this pulped food can be dumped? Yes, MARPOL Annex 6 deals solely with garbage discharge at sea. Ground food waste must be discharged more than 3 nm from shore, while underway. There are "special areas" designated by the IMO where stricter limits are enforced, the most common ones for cruisers are the "Wider Caribbean Area", the Baltic Sea, and the North Sea, where pulped food cannot be discharged until more than 12 nm from shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 2, 2016 #15 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Great article! I wonder about the liquor; not the number they are quoting but if it's actually loaded in the USA. I always assumed that the booze was purchased in a tax friendly port along the way, like the Bahamas. Another Fun fact - MSC employees told us that they ran out of beer and most liquor on AN Australian cruise that had a huge veteran's and military group on board. A whole container had to be loaded part way through the cruise! I dunno about that number, maybe you do, but what I was told on Celebrity is that most waste is from the buffet. The logistics of the MDR allows for them to predict rather accurately what is needed and what is likely to be served based on a fleet of prior cruises. Since the ship is not US flag, the liquor is bought "out of bond", meaning that no state liquor tax has been paid. Sales tax must be paid if the sale occurred in port. Similarly, anything that the ship brings from overseas and loads in the US, like parts for the engines, etc., are free of US customs, since they are coming from a foreign country to a foreign ship. While their statistical analysis allows for close monitoring of food usage on a fleet-year basis, on any given cruise the tastes may change and some items not be as popular as the next week. The other side of the coin is the tight control on food safety mandated by the USPH. Contrary to what many people believe, there are no leftovers onboard, reused or repurposed the next day. Every uneaten roll from the bread baskets goes overboard. Time and temperature control requires that any "potentially hazardous" food that is removed from temperature control (keeping it out of the danger zone, <40* or >140*) by taking it from a temperature controlled appliance (oven, warming box) must be discarded within 4 hours. So, even the food on the "assembly line" in the main galley could be disposed of prior to completion of meal service, especially when "freestyle, my time, or dynamic" dining concepts are used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted March 2, 2016 #16 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Yes, MARPOL Annex 6 deals solely with garbage discharge at sea. Ground food waste must be discharged more than 3 nm from shore, while underway. There are "special areas" designated by the IMO where stricter limits are enforced, the most common ones for cruisers are the "Wider Caribbean Area", the Baltic Sea, and the North Sea, where pulped food cannot be discharged until more than 12 nm from shore. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 2, 2016 #17 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Thanks. In the interest of accuracy, and apologizing for posting before my morning coffee, it is MARPOL Annex 5 that deals with garbage, Annex 6 is air pollution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 2, 2016 #18 Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Thanks. Delete. Edited March 2, 2016 by chengkp75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tustin3 Posted March 2, 2016 #19 Share Posted March 2, 2016 What Bob said....Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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