Rare John&LaLa Posted October 25, 2016 #151 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I would not expect RCCL to leave the Tampa and Baltimore markets over ship size. When they get to point where they are retiring the ships that would fit under the bridges I would guess they will build new ships to meet those market requirements. Sent from my iPad using Forums I don't know. Tampa is somewhat a redundant market, the prices are generally low, wonder how profitable it really is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defiant Posted October 26, 2016 #152 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Yikes! Hydrogen and Liquefied Natural Gas, the smoking lamp will be permanently extinguished. B.L.E.V.E. of the Seas would be a good name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaeric Posted October 26, 2016 #153 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) I don't know. Tampa is somewhat a redundant market, the prices are generally low, wonder how profitable it really is? One thing that is interesting about Tampa is that it replicates a cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale. Exactly- ports, times, etc. And it's been doing that for a long time. Seems like the best feature of Tampa is Tampa itself, which is also a problem with the storms and fog as well. But it's a very nice port to sail out of. But, as seen in New Orleans, that's not a feature that is valued so much. As for ship size, I don't see the smaller ones going away- too many high value cruises available only to the smaller ships- one can deal with nominal prices when you can get some premium ones for Eastern Med, Canada, and Canada/NE cruises. We chose an Anthem cruise a month ago, as the 2 day shorter cruise out of Boston (almost same itinerary- just missed New York....) was the exact same price on the Serenade. There's value to keeping smaller ships. Edited October 26, 2016 by alfaeric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted October 26, 2016 #154 Share Posted October 26, 2016 One thing that is interesting about Tampa is that it replicates a cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale. Exactly- ports, times, etc. And it's been doing that for a long time. :confused: I don't understand the Ft Lauderdale reference. It's 150 miles north, about the same as PC. Royal only does Western trips as far as I know. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaeric Posted October 26, 2016 #155 Share Posted October 26, 2016 :confused: I don't understand the Ft Lauderdale reference. It's 150 miles north, about the same as PC. Royal only does Western trips as far as I know. Am I missing something? It's more a confusion about Tampa. For the most part, it replicates cruises from Ft Lauderale, just on a smaller ship. So it's a natural question why the port is needed. So if small ships are needed. That's all. Nothing important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atnolan94 Posted October 26, 2016 #156 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I hope this thread doesn't go too far off the rails, it should have at least a 6 year lifespan. Insider at RC tells me no pepper grinders on the icon class. So might as well kill this thread now...:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted November 1, 2016 #157 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Neptun Werft issued a press release yesterday (in German). Neptun Werft is part of Meyer and usually the main building site for river cruise ships (Viking longships). In this press release they announce the construction of a new building hall where they are now building the new "power plant" segments for cruise ships. In this press release they state that the largest of the new ship up to 2024 (ships themselves are built either in Papenburg or Turku) will have a BRT of 209,000. And those floating engine room segements will be 140 m long, 16 m high and between 38 and 46 m wide. The new hall will be ready in 2018. Meyer is also building the LNG ships for the Carnival Group (Costa, AIDA, P&O). Those are announced with a BRT of 180,000. So it´s pretty likely that the Icon Class will have a BRT of 209,000. And as the segments are 38 to 46 m wide I´d say the Icon Class will be 46 m wide. steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted November 1, 2016 #158 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Neptun Werft issued a press release yesterday (in German). Neptun Werft is part of Meyer and usually the main building site for river cruise ships (Viking longships). In this press release they announce the construction of a new building hall where they are now building the new "power plant" segments for cruise ships. In this press release they state that the largest of the new ship up to 2024 (ships themselves are built either in Papenburg or Turku) will have a BRT of 209,000. And those floating engine room segements will be 140 m long, 16 m high and between 38 and 46 m wide. The new hall will be ready in 2018. Meyer is also building the LNG ships for the Carnival Group (Costa, AIDA, P&O). Those are announced with a BRT of 180,000. So it´s pretty likely that the Icon Class will have a BRT of 209,000. And as the segments are 38 to 46 m wide I´d say the Icon Class will be 46 m wide. steamboats Thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overtyme Posted May 12, 2017 #159 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Yes, surprised RCI didn't go for an Edge class derivative. It will be weird to think that Voayger class could be the smallest ship in the RCI fleet by the time Icon comes out. Isn't Radiance class smaller than Voyager class? Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overtyme Posted May 12, 2017 #160 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I can't see this happening. The Radiance class ships are still in good shape. They seem pretty. Popular to me. I would imagine that the Radiance class ships start to call in Cuba. What I'd really love to see are Oasis Class cruises that are more than 7 days leaving from Florida. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyster Posted May 12, 2017 #161 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Isn't Radiance class smaller than Voyager class? Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Yes, considerably smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmack Posted May 13, 2017 #162 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Ahhhh! Too big! Please order a smaller ship or 2 for those who don't like cruising on shopping malls! We've sailed on every class ship and really prefer the Vision and Radiance Class. Staff by far friendlier and they get to know all the Guests by name! Larger ships are great for families but at this stage in life, I don't want to feel like I'm at an amusement park or mall! We want to see the ocean from the public areas so we feel like we're actually on a ship in the middle of the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted May 13, 2017 #163 Share Posted May 13, 2017 We've sailed on every class ship and really prefer the Vision and Radiance Class. Staff by far friendlier and they get to know all the Guests by name! Larger ships are great for families but at this stage in life, I don't want to feel like I'm at an amusement park or mall! We want to see the ocean from the public areas so we feel like we're actually on a ship in the middle of the ocean. Rhapsody Aft Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 13, 2017 #164 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Isn't Radiance class smaller than Voyager class? Yes, and by the time Icon class arrives, most Radiance ships will be around 20 years old, the typical time RCI keeps ships. They may also be some of the oldest in the fleet (assuming Empress, Majesty and all Vision class are gone - a good possibility). So my assumption was that Radiance class would be leaving the fleet around that time and Voyager class may be the smallest at that time. While some Voyager class are about the same vintage, RCI probably makes more money on those than Radiance so the assumption there is that of two ships of the same age the smaller one is likely to go. Edited May 13, 2017 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted May 13, 2017 #165 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I once asked a dear pinnacle friend which was her favorite ship. Her reply: "The one I am currently on". :D Very Astute. I have enjoyed every ship we have sailed....except the CCL one. Doesn't matter how big or small they are...they were all enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted May 13, 2017 #166 Share Posted May 13, 2017 We've sailed on every class ship and really prefer the Vision and Radiance Class. Staff by far friendlier and they get to know all the Guests by name! Larger ships are great for families but at this stage in life, I don't want to feel like I'm at an amusement park or mall! We want to see the ocean from the public areas so we feel like we're actually on a ship in the middle of the ocean. You must not walk about much. I see the ocean from all the upper and outer decks and our cabin on every ship we sail. In fact the only public spaces that don't have the ocean view available are the casinos and the theaters...for obvious reasons. But they all have windows, albeit draperies that are pulled. Oh yeah, maybe the Central Park area. But that never bothered me. The main reason we cruise is to see the Big Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted May 14, 2017 #167 Share Posted May 14, 2017 That is why the prices keep climbing and we look elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 14, 2017 #168 Share Posted May 14, 2017 ^ a ship 5 years away has probably no affect on prices today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixie21 Posted May 14, 2017 #169 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Rhapsody Aft Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Can't wait for next June when we have this corner aft junior suite booked on rhapsody. More pics please! Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted May 14, 2017 #170 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Can't wait for next June when we have this corner aft junior suite booked on rhapsody. More pics please! Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app I posted several in the Show us your Aft thread Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseCheapsk8 Posted August 17, 2017 #171 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) We know from earlier this year that Royal Caribbean has ordered to ICON class ships to be delivered in 2022 and 2024. I know it's pure speculation at this point, but just thought it would be fun to hear what people think the layout will be like, what types of innovative new things RC will put on board, etc. Thoughts? Edited August 17, 2017 by CruiseCheapsk8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 17, 2017 #172 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Running thread: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2411505&highlight=icon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted September 26, 2017 #173 Share Posted September 26, 2017 A search of the government's trademark database has turned up a number of new ship names registered to Royal Caribbean. Although they may not use all of these names, the fact that RCI has trademarked them means some may be used for upcoming ships. Here's what is currently on order for Royal Caribbean: Symphony of the Seas (Oasis-class) 2018 Spectrum of the Seas (Quantum-class) 2019 Unnamed (Quantum-class) 2020 Unnamed (Oasis-class) 2021 Unnamed (Icon-class) 2022 Unnamed (Icon-class) 2024 Here are the trademarked names: Emblem of the Seas Passion of the Seas Pulse of the Seas Apex of the Seas Joy of the Seas Icon of the Seas Valhalla of the Seas Sunrise of the Seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 26, 2017 #174 Share Posted September 26, 2017 A search of the government's trademark database has turned up a number of new ship names registered to Royal Caribbean. Although they may not use all of these names, the fact that RCI has trademarked them means some may be used for upcoming ships. Here's what is currently on order for Royal Caribbean: Symphony of the Seas (Oasis-class) 2018 Spectrum of the Seas (Quantum-class) 2019 Unnamed (Quantum-class) 2020 Unnamed (Oasis-class) 2021 Unnamed (Icon-class) 2022 Unnamed (Icon-class) 2024 Here are the trademarked names: Emblem of the Seas Passion of the Seas Pulse of the Seas Apex of the Seas Joy of the Seas Icon of the Seas Valhalla of the Seas Sunrise of the Seas I'll take a wild guess that Icon of the Seas will be the first of that class. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted September 26, 2017 #175 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Unlikely. Radiance is about 20% larger by volume than Majesty. Passenger capacity routinely gets quoted sometimes as double occupancy capacity and sometimes as maximum (all bunks) capacity. Often the capacity numbers don't specify which measurement, so it's very easy to compare apples to oranges. Maximum is not all bunks, but based on lifeboat capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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