cabinluvn Posted November 22, 2016 #1 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Wondering if an essential oil diffuser that plugs into an USB port would be allowed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted November 22, 2016 #2 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Wondering if an essential oil diffuser that plugs into an USB port would be allowed. They're mainly concerned with things that generate high heat, so my guess would be 'yes' ... but you'd better ask HAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom O. Posted November 22, 2016 #3 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Don't these things heat the oil in order to diffuse it? If so, it wouldn't be allowed, because of the fire hazard. Not sure why you would feel it necessary to have one on a cruise ship. But as JTL513 said, you should call to know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinluvn Posted November 22, 2016 Author #4 Share Posted November 22, 2016 It is a cool mist. I diffuse oils that kill microbes and keeps all the bad bugs away as a preventive measure. Diffusing it in my cabin would prevent any respiratory ailments Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom O. Posted November 22, 2016 #5 Share Posted November 22, 2016 It is a cool mist. I diffuse oils that kill microbes and keeps all the bad bugs away as a preventive measure. Diffusing it in my cabin would prevent any respiratory ailments Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oh I see, you are using it as a form of alternative medicine. I thought you were just going to use it as a sort of room deodorizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted November 22, 2016 #6 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I would call HAL and find out what they think of using an oil diffuser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazey1 Posted November 22, 2016 #7 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Please don't. These "essential oils" are very bad for triggering asthma attacks in people who have allergies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinluvn Posted November 22, 2016 Author #8 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Please don't. These "essential oils" are very bad for triggering asthma attacks in people who have allergies. I don't know where you find that information. Pure essential oils are used for asthma attacks and allergies. I have been able to stop using my inhaler because of the oils. They have been used for centuries to cure illnesses. They are only dangerous if you do not know how to user them. Diffusing two drops of oil in 2 cups of water is not going to cause someone that is not in my cabin to have an asthma attack! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted November 22, 2016 #9 Share Posted November 22, 2016 You are entering a closed-system interconnected HACV system, and sharing this space with many others. This may have an impact. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinluvn Posted November 22, 2016 Author #10 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I will cal HAL Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazey1 Posted November 22, 2016 #11 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I don't know where you find that information. Pure essential oils are used for asthma attacks and allergies. I have been able to stop using my inhaler because of the oils. They have been used for centuries to cure illnesses. They are only dangerous if you do not know how to user them. Diffusing two drops of oil in 2 cups of water is not going to cause someone that is not in my cabin to have an asthma attack! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I know this because I am one of the asthma sufferers that has severe attacks when exposed to essential oils. Also my pulmonologist has advised me that this is a common trigger along with incense, perfumes, household cleaners, room air fresheners and many other scented products. This is true even if the scent is so faint that you can not smell it. Perhaps your pulmonogist has a different opinion as medical specialists do not necessarily agree on cause and effect. You are extremely lucky to be able to tolerate this type of product. Please remember that people are different and rethink you idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted November 22, 2016 #12 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I no longer use that very small spritz of perfume (Chanel #5) on Gala nights when on board, because I understand and appreciate others onboard have aroma sensitivities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazey1 Posted November 22, 2016 #13 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I no longer use that very small spritz of perfume (Chanel #5) on Gala nights when on board, because I understand and appreciate others onboard have aroma sensitivities. Where is that dam like button?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinluvn Posted November 22, 2016 Author #14 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I was not aware that all rooms are connected via vents. I have never smelled anything from another room, like soaps or shampoos, etc. I will call HAL and abide by whatever they say Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted November 22, 2016 #15 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) I was not aware that all rooms are connected via vents. I have never smelled anything from another room, like soaps or shampoos, etc. I will call HAL and abide by whatever they say Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk It is the interconnected system -no direct room to room connections. Perhaps a nosegay would work in a more limited way, instead of a whole room diffuser? We recently learned from a ship's engineer posting here, even the hallway air pressure is important because the cabin interior air pressure must be able to keep from sucking in hallway air incase there is smoke elsewhere that wants to enter the cabin. Which is why leaving balcony doors opens screws everything up since it actually forces air out of the cabin and does not let in air from the balcony - watch your curtains when you open a balcony door to prove this. Opening the balcony door causes hallway air to rush into the cabin. I always wondered why there was such a gap between the bottom of the cabin door and the floor that also lets in light - apparently it is all part of this interconnected fire safety ventilation system. Edited November 22, 2016 by OlsSalt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted November 22, 2016 #16 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Where is that dam like button?:) Boo, hoo ...I even bought a small under 3 ounce Channel spray to take on trips too that would get past security. But I know just standing in line to get into the MDR on Gala night would be a cacophony of competing scents. So I retired my own contribution and in fact no longer experience this so I think a lot of people are now cutting back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinluvn Posted November 22, 2016 Author #17 Share Posted November 22, 2016 It is the interconnected system -no direct room to room connections. Perhaps a nosegay would work in a more limited way, instead of a whole room diffuser? We recently learned from a ship's engineer posting here, even the hallway air pressure is important because the cabin interior air pressure must be able to keep from sucking in hallway air incase there is smoke elsewhere that wants to enter the cabin. Which is why leaving balcony doors opens screws everything up since it actually forces air out of the cabin and does not let in air from the balcony - watch your curtains when you open a balcony door to prove this. Opening the balcony door causes hallway air to rush into the cabin. I always wondered why there was such a gap between the bottom of the cabin door and the floor that also lets in light - apparently it is all part of this interconnected fire safety ventilation system. I will certainly reconsider the diffuser. I do have other forms of inhaling oils that won't fill the room or bother other people. I appreciate all the comments here. The last thing I want to do is affect someone else unintentionally Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom O. Posted November 22, 2016 #18 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I was looking at the prohibited item list. There is no mention of diffusers. I copied a couple items that are slightly related: Flammable liquids and hazardous chemicals/substances including gasoline/petrol, cooking fuel, acid, spill able batteries (except those in wheelchairs), phosphorous, oil, lighter fluid (common lighters are permitted), methylated spirits, paint thinners, turpentine, spray paint, chlorine, bleach, spray paint and any other dangerous chemicals that could burn, maim, incapacitate or disable. Hookah and Water Hookah Pipes, candles and incense, strike-anywhere matches, clothing irons/steamers, heating pads, hot plates, kettles, coffee makers, toasters and other electronic cooking appliances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinluvn Posted November 22, 2016 Author #19 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I was looking at the prohibited item list. There is no mention of diffusers. I copied a couple items that are slightly related: Flammable liquids and hazardous chemicals/substances including gasoline/petrol, cooking fuel, acid, spill able batteries (except those in wheelchairs), phosphorous, oil, lighter fluid (common lighters are permitted), methylated spirits, paint thinners, turpentine, spray paint, chlorine, bleach, spray paint and any other dangerous chemicals that could burn, maim, incapacitate or disable. Hookah and Water Hookah Pipes, candles and incense, strike-anywhere matches, clothing irons/steamers, heating pads, hot plates, kettles, coffee makers, toasters and other electronic cooking appliances. Thanks for the list. I think I recall someone wanting to bring a humidifier but can't remember the answer. This would be like a mini humidifier, but it wouldn't run full time and would be an intermittent vapor. I still think I will find another way. We wear diffusing jewelry when we fly that has an "antibacterial" oil in it. Seems to keep the airplane germs away from us. It is subtle, so I don't think it bothers anyone. Smells like cloves/cinnamon Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted November 22, 2016 #20 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Poking around the net looking for more info about cruise ship ventilations systems, there were reminders that "bugs" can get into the ship's HACV system -- and travel around the ship. Remember Legionaire's connection to a hotel AC system -- so it stands to reason scents and aromas would also spread beyond their local confines. Who doesn't love smelling the fresh baked bread that exudes from certain parts of the ship? Intersting topic, what and how far and what kind of filters intra-system can trap there "foreign invaders". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinluvn Posted November 22, 2016 Author #21 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I remember sailing in the early 90s on the Noordam to Alaska. We had an outside cabin with a porthole, don't remember where it was located. Early in the morning, not only did we hear scraping above us(might have been the kitchen area), but we woke up to cigarette smoke coming from somewhere. It is admirable that there are no smells, really, throughout the ship. It is a daunting task to keep the ventilation system clean and germ free. Now that I think about it, you can't even smell the dinner smells as you approach the main dining room Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMLincoln Posted November 22, 2016 #22 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I use essential oils also but have not taken a diffuser on board although they are ultrasonic diffusers, not heaters, and would be very safe as far as fire hazards are concerned. For What it's Worth: I will add that we just came off a long cruise and DH was congested every night. It was a characteristic reaction for him due to his allergy to feathers, even though we had no feathers in our room, I checked and rechecked all our bedding. We got new mattress pad too. I'm sure the source was cross contamination through the HVAC. It lasted the entire 48 nights we were on board and there were no other symptoms that might indicate a viral infection. It it fully resolved now that we are home, 4 nights off the ship. m-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinluvn Posted November 22, 2016 Author #23 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I use essential oils also but have not taken a diffuser on board although they are ultrasonic diffusers, not heaters, and would be very safe as far as fire hazards are concerned. For What it's Worth: I will add that we just came off a long cruise and DH was congested every night. It was a characteristic reaction for him due to his allergy to feathers, even though we had no feathers in our room, I checked and rechecked all our bedding. We got new mattress pad too. I'm sure the source was cross contamination through the HVAC. It lasted the entire 48 nights we were on board and there were no other symptoms that might indicate a viral infection. It it fully resolved now that we are home, 4 nights off the ship. m-- I have my ultrasonic diffuser going all the time. Frustrating to have allergic reactions and you can't find the source. A dab of a certain essential oil behind the neck takes care of it for me Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinluvn Posted November 23, 2016 Author #24 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I called HAL and she said it would not be a problem as long as it plugged into a USB port. I asked whether it would go through the vents and AC and she said no Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted November 23, 2016 #25 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I called HAL and she said it would not be a problem as long as it plugged into a USB port. I asked whether it would go through the vents and AC and she said no Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Sorry but there is really no such thing as "calling HAL" since at any given time you can get totally contradictory answers. Best to check with the ship technical people once you get on board that particular ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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