Taylorcast Posted March 29, 2017 #1 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I'm sorry, I know this is a duplicate thread and there are others that posted their own threads before me, but I am getting fed up with the complaints and gotta vent. If you read the cruise contract on carnival.com, you will see that no port is guaranteed. They often have to cancel or switch the order of ports of call due to bad weather, rough seas, etc. Carnival is only required to reimburse guests the port fees for that port and the cost of any excursions booked through Carnival. Nothing else- that's what travel insurance is for. You are not entitled to anything beyond that. The fact that carnival offered 20% off a future cruise for all guests on that sailing of the Victory just proves that they will go above and beyond to retain their guests....it was extremely generous on their part. The situation of the man overboard is very unfortunate, and for whatever reason, it happened. Carnival is required by law to be under the direction of the U.S. Coast Guard in this situation and was required to stay and aid in the search until released by the Coast Guard. If you have an issue with it, I suggest you contact your local congressperson and request that they submit a bill to amend maritime laws. I'm sure when you explain why you are requesting this change, they will promptly laugh at you and insist what a selfish person you are.... Bottom line, this was all out of Carnivals control and they have gone above and beyond in response to it. Take them up on the 20% (you will likely not get that big of a discount ever again, unless you are a big casino gambler), and hope it doesn't happen again on your next cruise. I am tired of people thinking they are entitled to anything. You can have your opinion of what went wrong, but there is no need to copy and paste, word for word, your complaint on every cruise related website and page. (You know who you are) John Heald's fb, Carnival Cruise line fb, shipmate app, here. Your insensitivity and unwillingness to be thankful for what you are being offered has been noted, we (other loyal Carnival cruisers) would greatly appreciate it if you would hold up your promise and not cruise with Carnival again so we can enjoy our vacation without being subject to your negativity. On top of that, any one of us will gladly take the 20% off you are being offered. Have a great day. Please don't book your next cruise with me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorcast Posted March 29, 2017 Author #2 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Better yet, book a land only vacation in whatever location you want next time, if you miss it you will have nobody to blame but yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillbilly cruiser Posted March 29, 2017 #3 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Very well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnivaladdix120 Posted March 29, 2017 #4 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Thank you for this! I feel the same way and find it so crazy how people feel they are entitled to everything on earth from Carnival every time something happens to inconvenience them. Unbelievable. Well said :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudos2Fly Posted March 29, 2017 #5 Share Posted March 29, 2017 LOL, even "land" vacations have their problems. NO GUARANTEES in LIFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorcast Posted March 29, 2017 Author #6 Share Posted March 29, 2017 LOL, even "land" vacations have their problems. NO GUARANTEES in LIFE. True. But youre not on a motorized hotel that has to move and is subject to things out of their control (like the weather). I want to know if these people would dare to demand a refund if they booked an all-inclusive resort somewhere and it rained their entire vacation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfit72ford Posted March 29, 2017 #7 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Well said. I get so tired of those entitled people who expect everything to be perfect. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceyface1 Posted March 29, 2017 #8 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandsherry Posted March 29, 2017 #9 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Agree! Sent from my LG-H830 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtytwo Posted March 29, 2017 #10 Share Posted March 29, 2017 [emoji106] Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted March 29, 2017 #11 Share Posted March 29, 2017 People are entitled to disappointment. A sucky day at sea is not better than a good day at work. It's just another sucky day. At sea. I've had plenty of sucky days at sea, which were also sucky days at work. It sucked. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kctwinmommy Posted March 29, 2017 #12 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I wonder what ever happened to the group of people who had that group page on that "other site," where they were making all sorts of demands! I completely agree with you though. On our cruise in 2015, we had to be rerouted from St. Thomas to Dominican Republic. At that time Amber Cove had just started accepting ships, but wasn't even fully done, so many things weren't open. I know there was a couple on board who was supposed to get married in St. Thomas, and most (or all) of their guests had flown in there to attend it! I thought that was an odd thing to do, and obviously, they missed that port and getting married there. No idea what ended up happening though. We were rerouted due a to tropical storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorcast Posted March 29, 2017 Author #13 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I wonder what ever happened to the group of people who had that group page on that "other site," where they were making all sorts of demands! I completely agree with you though. On our cruise in 2015, we had to be rerouted from St. Thomas to Dominican Republic. At that time Amber Cove had just started accepting ships, but wasn't even fully done, so many things weren't open. I know there was a couple on board who was supposed to get married in St. Thomas, and most (or all) of their guests had flown in there to attend it! I thought that was an odd thing to do, and obviously, they missed that port and getting married there. No idea what ended up happening though. We were rerouted due a to tropical storm. Dont look at the comments to the article about it on the cruiselawnews.com site, they are creating a petition to carnival to get 50% refund back for everyone who was on board. Some guy also posted that he feels it should be reimbursed by the estate of the guy who passed away or by the ******** account that was put together to help with funeral costs IMHO, this: 1. Is even more ridiculous and insensitive than just complaining and demanding a refund from carnival and 2. What 23 year old has that kind of money? Unless he had travel insurance (which, if it is ruled a suicide, will likely not be covered as an accidental death), the family is going to have enough trouble scraping together funeral costs and paying off any debts and loans, credit cards etc. If anything, they should get off their high horse, put themselves in Brandon's family's shoes, and donate to the cause rather than demand payment from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorcast Posted March 29, 2017 Author #14 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I wonder what ever happened to the group of people who had that group page on that "other site," where they were making all sorts of demands! I completely agree with you though. On our cruise in 2015, we had to be rerouted from St. Thomas to Dominican Republic. At that time Amber Cove had just started accepting ships, but wasn't even fully done, so many things weren't open. I know there was a couple on board who was supposed to get married in St. Thomas, and most (or all) of their guests had flown in there to attend it! I thought that was an odd thing to do, and obviously, they missed that port and getting married there. No idea what ended up happening though. We were rerouted due a to tropical storm. Also, i was on the Sensation in 2005 the week before Hurricane Katrina hit NOLA (we sailed out of NOLA). They had to switch the order of ports due to the predicted path of Katrina. We were supposed to stay in NOLA for 2 days after, needless to say, had to evacuate the city. My dad is extremely picky about having a direct flight vs. a layover, and having us all sit together. So instead of flying out of NOLA to NY with a layover in Dallas ft worth, he chose to rent a car and drive us 14 hrs for a direct flight from nashville to ny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted March 29, 2017 #15 Share Posted March 29, 2017 True. But youre not on a motorized hotel that has to move and is subject to things out of their control (like the weather). I want to know if these people would dare to demand a refund if they booked an all-inclusive resort somewhere and it rained their entire vacation.... You bet they do...been at WDW in August when people were complaining it was hot and it rained...in Florida.. and they wanted a refund.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieRican Posted March 29, 2017 #16 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Sent from my SM-N920T using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorcast Posted March 29, 2017 Author #17 Share Posted March 29, 2017 You bet they do...been at WDW in August when people were complaining it was hot and it rained...in Florida.. and they wanted a refund.. Geez louise. These people. Im almost to the point where i will suggest to every major vacation destination, cruise line, etc. to require personality testing of all future guests. If they fall in the "pessimistic/most likely to complain" category or the "im entitled to what i want, when i want it, and if you dont give me what i want, i will sue you" category will be banned from vacationing there Of course, do i now fall into the complainers category, because i am complaining about the people complaining? [emoji13] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandij Posted March 29, 2017 #18 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Amen and thank you, well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted March 29, 2017 #19 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Geez louise. These people. Im almost to the point where i will suggest to every major vacation destination, cruise line, etc. to require personality testing of all future guests. If they fall in the "pessimistic/most likely to complain" category or the "im entitled to what i want, when i want it, and if you dont give me what i want, i will sue you" category will be banned from vacationing there Of course, do i now fall into the complainers category, because i am complaining about the people complaining? [emoji13] Sounds whiny and entitled. ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorcast Posted March 29, 2017 Author #20 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Sounds whiny and entitled. ;p [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kctwinmommy Posted March 29, 2017 #21 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Dont look at the comments to the article about it on the cruiselawnews.com site, they are creating a petition to carnival to get 50% refund back for everyone who was on board. Some guy also posted that he feels it should be reimbursed by the estate of the guy who passed away or by the ******** account that was put together to help with funeral costs IMHO, this: 1. Is even more ridiculous and insensitive than just complaining and demanding a refund from carnival and 2. What 23 year old has that kind of money? Unless he had travel insurance (which, if it is ruled a suicide, will likely not be covered as an accidental death), the family is going to have enough trouble scraping together funeral costs and paying off any debts and loans, credit cards etc. If anything, they should get off their high horse, put themselves in Brandon's family's shoes, and donate to the cause rather than demand payment from them Wow! You warned me, but I had to look! These people are just crazy, IMO. What if the port had to be cancelled for a storm? What if they had to skip a port because of a dangerous situation in that country? Both of those things happened to us. Did we complain? No!! We enjoyed our cruise. Personally, I wouldn't purposely take a short cruise to begin with (just because of something like this), but no matter what, it can happen, it does happen, and you move on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted March 29, 2017 #22 Share Posted March 29, 2017 well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMommyof3 Posted March 29, 2017 #23 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Holy crazy people! I just went to that site and saw the comments and I am appalled at what people have written. Unbelievable and heartless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorcast Posted March 29, 2017 Author #24 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I know, right? It is disgusting how insensitive they are being. The worst part is they are trying to act like they care....saying things like "im really sorry for the family but,..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je Souhaite Posted March 29, 2017 #25 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I'm sorry, I know this is a duplicate thread and there are others that posted their own threads before me, but I am getting fed up with the complaints and gotta vent. If you read the cruise contract on carnival.com, you will see that no port is guaranteed. They often have to cancel or switch the order of ports of call due to bad weather, rough seas, etc. Carnival is only required to reimburse guests the port fees for that port and the cost of any excursions booked through Carnival. Nothing else- that's what travel insurance is for. You are not entitled to anything beyond that. The fact that carnival offered 20% off a future cruise for all guests on that sailing of the Victory just proves that they will go above and beyond to retain their guests....it was extremely generous on their part. The situation of the man overboard is very unfortunate, and for whatever reason, it happened. Carnival is required by law to be under the direction of the U.S. Coast Guard in this situation and was required to stay and aid in the search until released by the Coast Guard. If you have an issue with it, I suggest you contact your local congressperson and request that they submit a bill to amend maritime laws. I'm sure when you explain why you are requesting this change, they will promptly laugh at you and insist what a selfish person you are.... Bottom line, this was all out of Carnivals control and they have gone above and beyond in response to it. Take them up on the 20% (you will likely not get that big of a discount ever again, unless you are a big casino gambler), and hope it doesn't happen again on your next cruise. I am tired of people thinking they are entitled to anything. You can have your opinion of what went wrong, but there is no need to copy and paste, word for word, your complaint on every cruise related website and page. (You know who you are) John Heald's fb, Carnival Cruise line fb, shipmate app, here. Your insensitivity and unwillingness to be thankful for what you are being offered has been noted, we (other loyal Carnival cruisers) would greatly appreciate it if you would hold up your promise and not cruise with Carnival again so we can enjoy our vacation without being subject to your negativity. On top of that, any one of us will gladly take the 20% off you are being offered. Have a great day. Please don't book your next cruise with me :) Not sure why I opened this, as I have no pony in this show, but even though you may be right in what a company should would could give to satisfy an angry group of travelers, I think back to one time all I did was express dissatisfaction at the fact that during my cruise, a lounge I like to frequent was closed the entire cruise. They offered me 30% off my next cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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