BEENSAILING Posted August 27, 2017 #126 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I am booked on Allure in October with Puerto Rico in place of St. Thomas. For me the change in port is nothing by comparison to the insanity of Royal's thinking and announcements of bringing the Liberty into Galveston in the midst of floods and hurricanes and tornadoes. The port is closed. Streets are flooded. Power is out. Even if the port opens on Sunday (doubtful) port workers cannot get to the port to work, food trucks cannot get thru...arriving passengers have no where to go with flooded streets and closed airports. NOLA is not an option for Royal as they aren't going back there until the end of next year unless they can make a deal with another cruise line to at least port there and refuel and bring more food on board for the passengers. Given the weather forecasts...why did Royal even have Liberty leave Mexico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparker0220 Posted August 27, 2017 #127 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I am booked on Allure in October with Puerto Rico in place of St. Thomas. For me the change in port is nothing by comparison to the insanity of Royal's thinking and announcements of bringing the Liberty into Galveston in the midst of floods and hurricanes and tornadoes. The port is closed. Streets are flooded. Power is out. Even if the port opens on Sunday (doubtful) port workers cannot get to the port to work, food trucks cannot get thru...arriving passengers have no where to go with flooded streets and closed airports. NOLA is not an option for Royal as they aren't going back there until the end of next year unless they can make a deal with another cruise line to at least port there and refuel and bring more food on board for the passengers. Given the weather forecasts...why did Royal even have Liberty leave Mexico? I mean, it may be insanity, but that's no reason to speak definitively about things you're just wrong on. I'm on Galveston right now about 10 blocks from the port. We have power just fine, and most roads here are totally clear. Hell, as we speak we have some winds but not even much rain is coming down where I am (though I understand some is coming down to the west). As of a few hours ago, all roads were passable. Houston is getting absolutely hammered, but it's not actually that bad here (yet). Of course, none of that means that the ship will be a-ok to dock, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENSAILING Posted August 27, 2017 #128 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I mean, it may be insanity, but that's no reason to speak definitively about things you're just wrong on. I'm on Galveston right now about 10 blocks from the port. We have power just fine, and most roads here are totally clear. Hell, as we speak we have some winds but not even much rain is coming down where I am (though I understand some is coming down to the west). As of a few hours ago, all roads were passable. Houston is getting absolutely hammered, but it's not actually that bad here (yet). Of course, none of that means that the ship will be a-ok to dock, though. And when the ship comes in where are non-locals supposed to go if roads are closed / Houston airports closed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzx1103 Posted August 27, 2017 #129 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I honestly don't see how a lot of people get home tomorrow after getting off the Liberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewpapa Posted August 27, 2017 #130 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I am booked on Allure in October with Puerto Rico in place of St. Thomas. For me the change in port is nothing by comparison to the insanity of Royal's thinking and announcements of bringing the Liberty into Galveston in the midst of floods and hurricanes and tornadoes. The port is closed. Streets are flooded. Power is out. Even if the port opens on Sunday (doubtful) port workers cannot get to the port to work, food trucks cannot get thru...arriving passengers have no where to go with flooded streets and closed airports. NOLA is not an option for Royal as they aren't going back there until the end of next year unless they can make a deal with another cruise line to at least port there and refuel and bring more food on board for the passengers. Given the weather forecasts...why did Royal even have Liberty leave Mexico? Thank you! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewpapa Posted August 27, 2017 #131 Share Posted August 27, 2017 So the people who are supposed to be on the next cruise and can't get to Galveston by Monday because of the hurricane are SOL then? Can't imagine too many hotels in Galveston are taking reservations right now. We were cruising on Disney during Hurricane Matthew last year and had travel insurance. I spent quite a bit of time of the phone with them. And bottom line is, the insurance won't necessarily cover the cost of the cruise if it isn't canceled. Perhaps trip interruption coverage will apply? Thankfully for us it didn't come into play because we were able to change our flights with no penalty since the airline waived its fees, but basically we didn't know when we were going to dock or if we would make our original flight, it would have been cutting it very close if everything went according to plan. The trip insurance company told me if the flight was not canceled (it wasn't) and if they decided that there was a "reasonable amount of time" (but wouldn't give me a number, 3 hours? 4 hours?) for us to make it after the ship docked they wouldn't cover the cost of changing the flights. It was very stressful and not what I was expecting, I thought the insurance was there for peace of mind but it was not. Thankfully Southwest let us change our flight without penalty, Alamo let us do the same with the car and Disney allowed guests to stay an extra night on the ship since no one was really sure what situation we were going to be getting into once we got off the boat. And no, Disney did not charge gratuities for those extra days on the ship. We tipped extra anyways, not the crew's fault. In the end all the trip ins ended up covering was two meals on our departure day (which if the hurricane hadn't happened we'd have paid for those ourselves) and a couple of extra days of airport parking. I would absolutely buy trip insurance again for a cruise, but it's not always going to solve every problem and even if we didn't have it, we would have been just fine. Good info. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewpapa Posted August 27, 2017 #132 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Thank you! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Infeed! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaylemh Posted August 27, 2017 #133 Share Posted August 27, 2017 And no, Disney did not charge gratuities for those extra days on the ship. We tipped extra anyways, not the crew's fault. When we had a extra surprise day on Anthem last year, we were not charged for the extra day gratuities and were given free internet. We were also allowed to make free calls to change flights. I also left extra for the crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion Posted August 27, 2017 #134 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Live from Liberty of the Seas: The greatest last nite of a cruise ever-it was a party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
232271 Posted August 27, 2017 #135 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Not sure that party will be over. [emoji848]still bad in Galveston. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted August 27, 2017 #136 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Thankfully Southwest let us change our flight without penalty, Alamo let us do the same with the car and Disney allowed guests to stay an extra night on the ship since no one was really sure what situation we were going to be getting into once we got off the boat. And no, Disney did not charge gratuities for those extra days on the ship. We tipped extra anyways, not the crew's fault. In the end all the trip ins ended up covering was two meals on our departure day (which if the hurricane hadn't happened we'd have paid for those ourselves) and a couple of extra days of airport parking. I would absolutely buy trip insurance again for a cruise, but it's not always going to solve every problem and even if we didn't have it, we would have been just fine. Thank you for your update - it's good to hear there are still some reasonable people out there who can adapt to unfortunate conditions. Obviously you underscored the value of getting trip insurance and how it only takes one such unfortunate change in events to demonstrate the value in getting it. Kudos. Live from Liberty of the Seas: The greatest last nite of a cruise ever-it was a party Lemonade from lemons. Bravo. To both posters (and fellow passengers) - please be aware that many of us on land are praying for your safe and reasonable return. That's what matters most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggiebuttercup Posted August 27, 2017 #137 Share Posted August 27, 2017 And when the ship comes in where are non-locals supposed to go if roads are closed / Houston airports closed... Heck, even locals can't get home (unless they actually live on the island). Pretty much all of the Houston metro area is under a shelter in place order due to street and highway flooding. The news showed a little while ago that I-45 was under water on the mainland side of the bridge. This is catastrophic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynphil Posted August 27, 2017 #138 Share Posted August 27, 2017 They shouldn't dock for a few more days. People will be stranded in Texas if they dock. Plus hardly anyone will get on board the next cruise. Just skip a week and stop worrying about money all the time. Peoples lives are more important. Money, money, money. It's sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynphil Posted August 27, 2017 #139 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just go do the same itinerary this week again for the people stuck on the ship. Get supplies at one of the ports. Then you come back next Sunday and hopefully things will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lj77346 Posted August 27, 2017 #140 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The port of Galveston remains closed. Portions of the Houston area have had about 2 feet of rain and the rain continues. There are tornado warnings in the western suburbs of Houston. Currently Hobby airport is closed and Bush (IAH) has delays and cancellations. Many roads are flooded - creeks and bayous have overflowed their banks - emergency services are reporting 100's of high water rescues. Harris County government is telling everyone to stay off the streets. Just reporting on current conditions - stay safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 27, 2017 #141 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The port of Galveston remains closed. Yet, Liberty is heading there at 11 knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman-2 Posted August 27, 2017 #142 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The ship will run out of food for the passengers and crew On the last scheduled day of the cruise. Whenever we cruise we park out car, full of gas and ready to head home, at the port. If I were on the Liberty, I would want to be unloaded where my car is parked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 27, 2017 #143 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The ship will run out of food for the passengers and crew On the last scheduled day of the cruise. Maybe some things, but ships are typically provisioned for more than the length of the cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 27, 2017 #144 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Not sure what to make of it but a pilot boat that looked to be headed towards Liberty returned to port. Liberty still headed to Galveston at 10 knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynphil Posted August 27, 2017 #145 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'm sure the ship is rocking and rolling being so close to port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbjen Posted August 27, 2017 #146 Share Posted August 27, 2017 If you're on Liberty and need to drive east on I-10 to get home, it's under water at Uvalde. To be fair, the weather in Galveston proper isn't that bad, but the second you leave the island, you're heading for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENSAILING Posted August 27, 2017 #147 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Not sure what to make of it but a pilot boat that looked to be headed towards Liberty returned to port. Liberty still headed to Galveston at 10 knots. Biker- are you on board the Liberty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 27, 2017 #148 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Biker- are you on board the Liberty? No, just monitoring MarrineTraffic ship movements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENSAILING Posted August 27, 2017 #149 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Not sure what to make of it but a pilot boat that looked to be headed towards Liberty returned to port. Liberty still headed to Galveston at 10 knots. Biker - are you on board the Liberty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Petroplex Posted August 27, 2017 #150 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Maybe some things, but ships are typically provisioned for more than the length of the cruise. I took the All Access Tour on the Liberty on the 25 June 2017 sailing. We spent a lot of time in the kitchen and the ships stores, and they explained how they handle a situation just like this one. The routinely overstock for two days, which means than on most cruises what you eat through Tuesday is stuff which was put on a week before anyway. So a ship which is scheduled to come in on Monday might see some menu repetition, but everyone eats just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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