suesnake2002 Posted March 5, 2018 Author #26 Share Posted March 5, 2018 It is a bit confusing to me how it is safe to sail to St. Thomas but not St. Maarten. The two islands are not very far a part.May depend what side of the island they dock at. And if it's a protected harbor Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullers Posted March 5, 2018 #27 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) just got an update from the captain on the allure. We’re going to san juan then st thomas then nassau. Skipping st maarten. The atlantic is too unsafe to sail. Really disappointing but what can you do! * * * deleted * * * Edited March 5, 2018 by tullers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted March 5, 2018 #28 Share Posted March 5, 2018 St Thomas is a much better harbor is it offers better shelter from winds - nothing like that at St. Maarten. Keep in mind that Charlotte Amelie used to have a naval base because it offered such good protection. The premise is that the Atlantic is too rough to sail not the harbor differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullers Posted March 5, 2018 #29 Share Posted March 5, 2018 It is a bit confusing to me how it is safe to sail to St. Thomas but not St. Maarten. The two islands are not very far a part. St Thomas is a much better harbor is it offers better shelter from winds - nothing like that at St. Maarten. Keep in mind that Charlotte Amelie used to have a naval base because it offered such good protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullers Posted March 5, 2018 #30 Share Posted March 5, 2018 The premise is that the Atlantic is too rough to sail not the harbor differences. Post has been deleted, no longer any aspersions on your premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted March 5, 2018 #31 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Post has been deleted, no longer any aspersions on your premise. Not my premise. Dixie reported that is what the captain said.... post #22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted March 5, 2018 #32 Share Posted March 5, 2018 It is a bit confusing to me how it is safe to sail to St. Thomas but not St. Maarten. The two islands are not very far a part. Maybe the piers are full at Saint Maarten and St Thomas and San Juan become the fall backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullers Posted March 5, 2018 #33 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Not my premise. Dixie reported that is what the captain said.... post #22. Can’t do anything to please you, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_BJ Posted March 5, 2018 #34 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) just a sailor's guess but .... the ride will be much nicer going back to the FL coast then south and using the Old Bahama Channel for the east leg as compared to going 'outside' the Bahama bank. look at that wave map in post #5 ... going 'outside' would be real E-TICKET ride as we Disney old timers call it .... if this turns out to be the case be thankful as it probably is costing more fuel wise ..... going outside today would result in another video episode of "Oh my god, I thought we were all going to die ....." Edited March 5, 2018 by Capt_BJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted March 5, 2018 #35 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Maybe the piers are full at Saint Maarten and St Thomas and San Juan become the fall backs. Maybe, image St. Maarten turing away 6000 credit cards.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depplep Posted March 5, 2018 #36 Share Posted March 5, 2018 We missed Labadee two weeks ago on Freedom because of high swells. The ocean was rough all that week, high winds as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1213 Posted March 5, 2018 #37 Share Posted March 5, 2018 We missed Labadee two weeks ago on Freedom because of high swells. The ocean was rough all that week, high winds as well. The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted March 6, 2018 #38 Share Posted March 6, 2018 The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli. A classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted March 6, 2018 #39 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Maybe, image St. Maarten turing away 6000 credit cards.:eek: Indeed, but if they are loaded already it might not matter. Granted the local economy sure could use the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted March 6, 2018 #40 Share Posted March 6, 2018 The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli. Was it a Titleist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted March 6, 2018 #41 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Dang northeaster still messing with us. Can you imagine labadee being cancelled!! I completely understand. Safety first, gang plank shifting too much, concern about lines snapping. But that storm we left early to avoid has pushed weather down into the caribbean and i feel like it's chasing me. Lol I'm on harmony and with a boat this big and beautiful we will find something to do Hmmm i wonder what time the bloody marys will be served Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk I hate it when a storm chases the ship. :D Hope the weather calms down and you have a Bloody Mary in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zdad59 Posted March 6, 2018 #42 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I bet the first one of the day has already been consumed.;) It must be windy and wavy there today. I bet that it will happen once in a while when the pier at CoCo Cay is completed too. Enjoy your surprise sea day. I attached a sea height and direction chart for today. Looks a little wavy out there thanks to the nor’easter. This better be gone by next week!!! :mad::mad: See you at the meet & greet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted March 6, 2018 #43 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Was it a Titleist? I think it's a golf ball? :D:):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser21 Posted March 6, 2018 #44 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Is anybody here a marine biologist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixie1337 Posted March 6, 2018 #45 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I watched an update video from the ship master on why we are changing the itinerary on the allure. We had to turn back from Nassau and come all the way back almost (we could see Miami in the distance while we were at the pool). My husband was joking that were on Royal Florida and not Royal Caribbean. There is a storm over the Atlantic that’s almost the size of the USA and our original route would have taken us through waters with 20 foot swells. So we turned around and are sailing through the old Bahama channel. And that made it so there is no time to get to St Maarten and still have three ports. I think the crew has done a great job coming up with an alternative plan in order to ensure that we all still have a great vacation with no “I thought I was going to die” videos ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted March 6, 2018 #46 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I watched an update video from the ship master on why we are changing the itinerary on the allure. We had to turn back from Nassau and come all the way back almost (we could see Miami in the distance while we were at the pool). My husband was joking that were on Royal Florida and not Royal Caribbean. There is a storm over the Atlantic that’s almost the size of the USA and our original route would have taken us through waters with 20 foot swells. So we turned around and are sailing through the old Bahama channel. And that made it so there is no time to get to St Maarten and still have three ports. I think the crew has done a great job coming up with an alternative plan in order to ensure that we all still have a great vacation with no “I thought I was going to die” videos ;) Thanks for he update. It all makes sense now. Enjoy the week. I sure did three weeks ago.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare countess5 Posted March 6, 2018 #47 Share Posted March 6, 2018 We were on the HOS two weeks ago on a B2B and on the Eastern leg the winds from Florida to St Thomas were so bad they closed the 16th deck to passengers for two days. The sky’s were fantastic and temp great but the winds! Last stop was Labadee and it was great sky’s again but again the winds blew us off the 16th deck and went into the Solarium. Nice thing about HOS there is so much to do and places to go. I hope the rest of your trip is Fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkerbink Posted March 6, 2018 #48 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I bet the first one of the day has already been consumed.;) It must be windy and wavy there today. I bet that it will happen once in a while when the pier at CoCo Cay is completed too. Enjoy your surprise sea day. I attached a sea height and direction chart for today. Looks a little wavy out there thanks to the nor’easter. Where do you get this chart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_BJ Posted March 6, 2018 #49 Share Posted March 6, 2018 You can get all sorts of charts like this from NOAA https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/marine/forecast/enhanced_atlc.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted March 6, 2018 #50 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Where do you get this chart? Ocean Weather. I discovered it a few years ago. It also shows water temps, which comes in handy when headed to Caribbean Beaches.:) http://www.oceanweather.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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