RWolver672 Posted May 10, 2018 #26 Share Posted May 10, 2018 So share with us your estimate of how much a company with $17.5 billion in revenue hopes to save by cutting back slightly (certainly not eliminating) on straws. You don't remember American Airlines saving $40,000 a year by eliminating one olive per salad in first class. It doesn't matter what their revenue is, every penny they save is money in their pocket. I did not mean to stir up a stink that I don't agree with saving our environment, I just stated that I have never seen a straw get thrown or blown overboard. I did not say it doesn't happen, just that I've never seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted May 10, 2018 #27 Share Posted May 10, 2018 You don't remember American Airlines saving $40,000 a year by eliminating one olive per salad in first class. It doesn't matter what their revenue is, every penny they save is money in their pocket. I did not mean to stir up a stink that I don't agree with saving our environment, I just stated that I have never seen a straw get thrown or blown overboard. I did not say it doesn't happen, just that I've never seen it. There are straws in the water so they have either blown in or been thrown in and I don't think it matters much which occurred. I've never seen a million dollars but I know that such an amount of money exists.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted May 10, 2018 #28 Share Posted May 10, 2018 How about getting rid of plastic water bottles and plastic bags...totally unnecessary. We functioned for YEARS without bottled water and plastic bags. Paper straws are fine with me...but some drinks require a straw...so buy paper ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 10, 2018 #29 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I've never seen a million dollars but I know that such an amount of money exists.;) It doesn't go as far as one might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted May 10, 2018 #30 Share Posted May 10, 2018 It doesn't go as far as one might think. Very true a million dollars is not what is used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted May 11, 2018 #31 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Very true a million dollars is not what is used to be Now that is a cutback.... Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottacruises Posted May 11, 2018 #32 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I think they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy1369 Posted May 11, 2018 #33 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Check out Kickstarter. There is a current campaign called final straw. It is for a reusable collapsible straw. Comes in a cute keychain case. I backed the campaign for 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 11, 2018 #34 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Now that is a cutback.... Sent from my iPad using Forums I knew you could say the word. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare luckybecky Posted May 11, 2018 #35 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Gotta love it. Back in the seventies, we used waxed paper straws. The environmentalists screamed "You can't use paper straws! You're killing trees! Use plastic straws!" Now the environmentalists are screaming "You can't use plastic straws! You're killing sea life!" So here I sit, with environmentalists screaming that my plastic straw, stuck thru a plastic lid on top of a plastic cup, is dangerous... Sent from my SM-S907VL using Forums mobile app Not screaming. Just saying that we can live and learn. Here's an idea: ditch (recycle!) the plastic straw, plastic lid, and plastic cup that you are using. Invest a few dollars in a nice metal yeti type cup, and a metal straw or two. They will last you for the rest of your life and won't confinually land in landfills or the ocean. I have a metal straw and cup that I use daily. And I plan to take them on my next cruise with me. https://globalnews.ca/news/4155172/britain-bans-plastic-straws-canada/ This is an interesting article for anyone who cares about this issue. Here's a relevant quote from the article: "The growing ban on plastic straws comes as United Nations figures show eight million tonnes of plastic — bottles, packaging and other waste — enter the ocean each year, killing marine life and entering the human food chain. It takes plastic straws and stirrers up to 200 years to biodegrade. Scientists have urged tougher restrictions on plastic waste. In December, almost 200 nations agreed to limit plastic pollution of the oceans, warning it could outweigh fish by 2030." That's pretty shocking. Plastic pollution could outweigh fish in the ocean by 2030?! That should cause anyone to stop and think! At any rate, I doubt Carnival will totally eliminate straws. I don't think it's a "cutback" they are doing to save money. I do hope they will try to come up with some environmentally friendly alternatives. Small changes up to a lot when you are talking about millions of cruisers and hundreds of millions of drinks served every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldone60 Posted May 11, 2018 #36 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Well check what some want to do. https://reason.com/blog/2018/01/25/california-bill-would-criminalize-restau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare luckybecky Posted May 11, 2018 #37 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Well check what some want to do.https://reason.com/blog/2018/01/25/california-bill-would-criminalize-restau Interesting article, but it appears that some of it is not correct. If you look at the actual bill on the California legislative website, the punishment for offering a straw is quite different from that described in the article linked above. The article claims that "a waiter" could be fined $1000 and sentenced to six months in jail for offering a straw to a customer. This is absurd, of course. And I'm not sure where it came from because it doesn't seem to appear in the bill at all. The bill describes a punishment to a restaurant consisting of two warnings, and then a $25 fine, up to a maximum of $300. Also note that the bill does NOT prohibit a customer from asking for and being provided a straw. It is only trying to stop restaurants from just slapping them down on the table unasked. Restaurants where I live do this ALL the time, pretty much everywhere. I don't use these straws but even unopened and unused, I know they go straight into the trash when I leave. So don't worry, the tree-huggers aren't making it against the law to use a straw and they aren't going around tossing waiters into jail willy-nilly. Here's the actual wording from the bill: "This bill would prohibit a food facility, as specified, where food may be consumed on the premises, from providing single-use plastic straws to consumers unless requested by the consumer. The bill would specify that the first and 2nd violations of these provisions would result in a warning and any subsequent violation would be an infraction punishable by a fine of $25 for each day the food facility is in violation, but not to exceed an annual total of $300. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyPiglet Posted May 11, 2018 #38 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I don't drink out of the straw but I need 1 to stir my drink. and I have no problem with trying to save the environment. do I need to bring my own stirrer? I don't know if they do this yet, but they could use those little wooden stirring sticks. They are kind of like Popsicle sticks but smaller. Those are biodegradable and made of natural materials in the event that they do end up in the ocean. Or they could put out more stirring spoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwjax Posted May 11, 2018 #39 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) I don't know if they do this yet, but they could use those little wooden stirring sticks. They are kind of like Popsicle sticks but smaller. Those are biodegradable and made of natural materials in the event that they do end up in the ocean.Or they could put out more stirring spoons. My thoughts too! CCL already uses wooden stir sticks for coffee at the buffet. Just add them to the bars as well? As for straws, who knows?:confused: BYOS.....Bring Your Own Straw! Soon to be the next big thing...:) Edited May 11, 2018 by jwjax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMG1973 Posted May 11, 2018 #40 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Our bartender last week on the Splendor told us they have the straws you just have to ask for them now. She said she heard a rumor they were going to switch over to paper "soon". As I said, just a rumor but that's what I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A&Jfamily Posted May 11, 2018 #41 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Gotta love it. Back in the seventies, we used waxed paper straws. The environmentalists screamed "You can't use paper straws! You're killing trees! Use plastic straws!" Now the environmentalists are screaming "You can't use plastic straws! You're killing sea life!" So here I sit, with environmentalists screaming that my plastic straw, stuck thru a plastic lid on top of a plastic cup, is dangerous... Sent from my SM-S907VL using Forums mobile app We are human and we err. And we have more people living on this planet than we ever envisioned. We are not gifted with the foresight to comprehend every ultimate impact each and every decision. But as you can see the research shows that plastic is a nightmare for our environment. Our challenge now becomes how do we minimize that impact - and clean up the giant mess we have already made. And removing the disposable straws, cups and lids (which Carnival DOES NOT use already) is an easy way to reduce the impact on the oceans. I hate going to fast food restaurants and having to get a plastic cup when I have a perfectly great reusable one in my car. But the germaphobes freak out if you take a personal cup to a soda fountain. So who wins? The fish or the germaphobes? For me, the answer "should" be easy...without the fish, you won't have anyone, including the germaphobes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raxter54 Posted May 11, 2018 #42 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Very true a million dollars is not what is used to be"A billion here' date=' a billion there. Eventually you're talking real money." - Senator Everett Dirksen, Illinois. Sent from my SM-S907VL using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElaineKeagy Posted May 11, 2018 #43 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I do my part for the environment by refusing to buy single use water bottles. I won’t drink any bottled water unless I’m in a third world country, like Russia. But if I need a straw, which I do occasionally, I will use it, guilt-free. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise-Crazy Posted May 12, 2018 #44 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Maybe it’s time to get one of those metal collapsible straws Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyPiglet Posted May 12, 2018 #45 Share Posted May 12, 2018 My thoughts too! CCL already uses wooden stir sticks for coffee at the buffet. Just add them to the bars as well? As for straws, who knows?:confused: BYOS.....Bring Your Own Straw! Soon to be the next big thing...:) Honestly, there is revenue to be made here. CCL could sell reusable stainless steel straws imprinted with their logo and charge it to you S&S account. Eco Friendly could be profitable :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 12, 2018 #46 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Honestly, there is revenue to be made here. CCL could sell reusable stainless steel straws imprinted with their logo and charge it to you S&S account. Eco Friendly could be profitable :) Look for logo straws to be an upcoming platinum gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise-Crazy Posted May 12, 2018 #47 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Honestly, there is revenue to be made here. CCL could sell reusable stainless steel straws imprinted with their logo and charge it to you S&S account. Eco Friendly could be profitable :) Maybe a little whale tail glued on it too. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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