2wheelin Posted July 3, 2018 #201 Share Posted July 3, 2018 You could have said that in the first place. Fake reporting is not limited to Fox. So sorry....I forgot to tell you what I was wearing at the time too. My bad...NOT. Nothing fake about me. Too bad you don’t trust anyone. Must be a miserable life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted July 3, 2018 #202 Share Posted July 3, 2018 So sorry....I forgot to tell you what I was wearing at the time too. My bad...NOT. Nothing fake about me. Too bad you don’t trust anyone. Must be a miserable life. Note to self. Investigate the ignore feature. I don't need all the negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted July 3, 2018 #203 Share Posted July 3, 2018 abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc mouse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafedumonde Posted July 3, 2018 #204 Share Posted July 3, 2018 You could have said that in the first place. Fake reporting is not limited to Fox. Let me guess... east or west coast?:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGal999 Posted July 3, 2018 #205 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I am confused. We always pre pay our tips but if we didn't wouldn't the tips be automatically assigned to our Sail and Sign? So whether we pre tipped or Carnival charged us won't we need to go to the purser to have them removed? I think the OP was referring to the staff asking for additional cash tips. Therefore, the 'begging' reference. I could be wrong, but I don't think so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toofarfromthesea Posted July 3, 2018 #206 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I've suggested, twice, that people look up for themselves the History of Tipping. Maybe some did but more than likely not. This history I'm linking is specific to the USA only. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/18/i-dare-you-to-read-this-and-still-feel-ok-about-tipping-in-the-united-states/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ddc55b54402d One may also want to look up the history of how the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters came into being. Tipping, historical in the USA, was done, or not, when a service was offered or provided without the owner of the establishment paying the "worker." You have to trace this back to 1865 and forward. Ramona What happened in 1865, or even 1965, has little if any bearing on current practices, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePest_Too Posted July 3, 2018 #207 Share Posted July 3, 2018 What happened in 1865, or even 1965, has little if any bearing on current practices, It's not just me that thinks past history has a lot to do with the present and future. We must always look forward, but we have to understand our history in order to not repeat the mistakes of the past. I have seen too many instances where people continue to pursue wrong courses of action because they do not take the time to think critically about what has happened in the past -- W. Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 3, 2018 #208 Share Posted July 3, 2018 It's not just me that thinks past history has a lot to do with the present and future. We must always look forward, but we have to understand our history in order to not repeat the mistakes of the past. I have seen too many instances where people continue to pursue wrong courses of action because they do not take the time to think critically about what has happened in the past -- W. Churchill Wow, churchill was really out in front on the tip movement.... that is what we are talking about right? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linbobky Posted July 3, 2018 #209 Share Posted July 3, 2018 i have never had anyone beg for more tip money. we have been on 25 cruises. 20 on carnival. if i ever had them begging for more money, i would go to gs and all of his or hers tip removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushing985 Posted July 3, 2018 #210 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I've never had this happen on any of our cruises and I also have a hard time imagining the OP coming on this board and lie about his experience. Regardless, if a waiter asked me for a tip on the last night I wouldn't give him our customary "extra" tip. I certainly wouldn't pull my auto-tips because of the behavior of one employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter69 Posted July 3, 2018 #211 Share Posted July 3, 2018 They don't have tipping in the Uk..It's not part of there culture.. You can if you want, but waiters & service people get paid much more then USA. Same in Australia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corby114 Posted July 3, 2018 #212 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Since my first cruise on Royal Caribbean’s Song Of America in May 1983 I have never seen or heard of dining room staff begging for tips. My family always tip extra for outstanding service and have never been disappointed. On a few cruises including my recent fourteen day Canary Islands Cruise on Royal Caribbean’s Independence Of The Seas from Southampton the My Time Dining Room waiter asked us to give him a 10 on the online survey. The Dining Room staff was excellent and they received a 10 from my wife and myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siestakeys04 Posted July 3, 2018 #213 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Going on my 7th cruise with Carnival and I haven't heard any wait staff ask for more tips. Now the porters asking for tips is a different story. I always tip them but before I could get it out they are asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted July 3, 2018 #214 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Going on my 7th cruise with Carnival and I haven't heard any wait staff ask for more tips. Now the porters asking for tips is a different story. I always tip them but before I could get it out they are asking. One of these days I'm going to fill a cheap suitcase with bricks, not tip a dime, and see if it makes it to the cabin. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted July 3, 2018 #215 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I've never had this happen on any of our cruises and I also have a hard time imagining the OP coming on this board and lie about his experience. Regardless, if a waiter asked me for a tip on the last night I wouldn't give him our customary "extra" tip. I certainly wouldn't pull my auto-tips because of the behavior of one employee. Someone lying on Cruise Critic, alert the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRLLAL Posted July 3, 2018 #216 Share Posted July 3, 2018 This thread is still a thing? Some of you have been duped. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheelin Posted July 3, 2018 #217 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Seems we have a lot of Polyannas on here with tunnel vision. “It did not happen TO ME so therefore it is a lie”. They say “seeing is believing” but some of you are pretty fanatical about that. :) No matter. Who cares what you believe. It’s not a big deal (like chair hogs or something). Actually, I have never seen a chair hog so they do not exist. :'):') Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toofarfromthesea Posted July 3, 2018 #218 Share Posted July 3, 2018 It's not just me that thinks past history has a lot to do with the present and future. We must always look forward, but we have to understand our history in order to not repeat the mistakes of the past. I have seen too many instances where people continue to pursue wrong courses of action because they do not take the time to think critically about what has happened in the past -- W. Churchill I never knew that Winnie had ever addressed the issue of tipping. But good job taking a quote completely out of the original context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxHeadroom123 Posted July 4, 2018 #219 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Churchill was a wise man and this quote can be applied throughout life....we all can learn from past mistakes Sent from my SM-T819 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruziJenn Posted July 4, 2018 #220 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Seems we have a lot of Polyannas on here with tunnel vision. “It did not happen TO ME so therefore it is a lie”. They say “seeing is believing” but some of you are pretty fanatical about that. :)No matter. Who cares what you believe. It’s not a big deal (like chair hogs or something). Actually, I have never seen a chair hog so they do not exist. :'):') Have a nice day. The OP asked for "Thoughts?" and a lot of "thoughts" have been offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sprint180 Posted July 4, 2018 #221 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I don’t find it hard to believe. I have had this happen to me. For me it’s the fastest way not to get an extra tip Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAAAmerican Posted July 5, 2018 #222 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Howdy Pascack Valley neigbor! The wonderful days of that Song of America as well Zenith etc.. cruising down the North River .. Professional Wait Staffs.. that was a wonderful time in Town (NYC, NY) . I never knew any Professional to ever ask for a TIP.. Even the Owner of the Iron Horse never asks patrons for reviews either.. Bermuda was and still is one of the most profitable for all cruise lines. Yet NYC got very greedy eh.. Those were great days when Celebrity was Greek owned and bought by RCL :NYSE as the spots in Bermuda for the ship slips.. Since my first cruise on Royal Caribbean’s Song Of America in May 1983 I have never seen or heard of dining room staff begging for tips. My family always tip extra for outstanding service and have never been disappointed. On a few cruises including my recent fourteen day Canary Islands Cruise on Royal Caribbean’s Independence Of The Seas from Southampton the My Time Dining Room waiter asked us to give him a 10 on the online survey. The Dining Room staff was excellent and they received a 10 from my wife and myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat Cruise Posted July 5, 2018 #223 Share Posted July 5, 2018 The only way to really help the crews is to make the cruise lines stop the systems that they have in place of underpaying workers and trying to get Guest to pay more out of pocket, the cruise lines are using crew and guest to increase the bottom line profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted July 5, 2018 #224 Share Posted July 5, 2018 The only way to really help the crews is to make the cruise lines stop the systems that they have in place of underpaying workers and trying to get Guest to pay more out of pocket, the cruise lines are using crew and guest to increase the bottom line profits. And there is no way that we, the paying guests, can do that unless we all en masse stop cruising and tell the cruise lines that is why we are stopping. The cruise lines are operating like any other business, using the customers and employees to increase profits. That's how business works. If this system is going to change it will be through the concerted actions of the crew. If the crew supported such an action I would support them in their endeavor, and if the crew didn't support such an action then I would support them in that, too. Since the vast majority of them 1) repeatedly renew their contracts and 2) appear to be happy and contented with their jobs I have to believe that they wouldn't support such an action, so I as an outsider feel the need to butt out of their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePest_Too Posted July 5, 2018 #225 Share Posted July 5, 2018 The only way to really help the crews is to make the cruise lines stop the systems that they have in place of underpaying workers and trying to get Guest to pay more out of pocket, the cruise lines are using crew and guest to increase the bottom line profits. This(y) As long as they staff handles their pay to conserve the amount they need to spend and/or send home the above will work. It Ain't the Amount You Make but the Amount You Keep! Ramona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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