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3 hours ago, AAAAmerican said:

Oh come on Empire Casino has a lot more reasons for not even being at Par for a Casino..

 

Thank GOD New York does not allow smoking~!

 

In Pa, UpState they do allow and it is Gross not even enforced in Non-Smoking areas.Yet upsatate NY at an old HORSE RACE TRACK CONVERTED DOES NOT AS PER ny LAW

 

The Senior busloads avoid the Pa Casinos!

 

Wait till the attorneys get the cases of lun g Cancer caused by the Casinos on Ships..

 

A Pa. Casino was going to be sold to the Native N. Americans but they cancelled the Buy Contracts. Inasmuch as the cases pending on the smoking and cancer cases.

 

If only I knew what you were trying to say 

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To answer the original question, 

Yes, we certainly check to see if smoking is allowed anywhere inside a cruise ship before booking. All indoor public areas in the UK are non smoking, so it is a bit of a shock to visit a ship’s casino and have to walk away because of the smell.

If I am considering a ship where casino smoking is allowed, I certainly won’t be going into the casino, and will carefully check reports to see if other areas of the ship are affected by the smoke. Any hint of a problem and I won’t book that ship.

i can’t understand how the cruise lines can get away with exposing casino staff to the known health hazards. Presumably by registering their ships in countries where they can avoid being sued by damaged employees and their families

 

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8 hours ago, Casino Comp Chick said:

 

If only I knew what you were trying to say 

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Dear casino Com Chick,

 

Simply put:

 

Empire Casino, north of NYC, lacks many things other casinos have! Smoking Not Allowed.

 

Smoking is allowed in Pa. Casinos. Seniors avoid them .🤬

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On 12/23/2018 at 3:09 PM, sellwingri said:

Exactly!  Smokers will sit in the casino when it’s not even open and no one does anything.  Celebrity hasn’t lost passengers since going smokeless.  RCI should follow suit.

 

I am a non-smoker and wouldn't mind if the entire world went non-smoking. 

 

But I bet that when Celebrity went non-smoking it did lose some (smoking) customers to RCL.  But at same time RCL lost some (non-smoking) customers to Celebrity.  

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After our last cruise on the very overcrowded NCL Escape I was looking to book Celebrity. That was until I read about the no smoking casino and booked a smaller NCL ship instead. 

 

I wouldn't mind the Bliss set up, giving smokers their own room. But not completely non smoking, when smoking sections are so few and very far between. I think it adds to revenue as well, I saw several people who just popped in for a smoke and had to put a few bucks into a machine to have it. These were smokers who were clearly non gamblers. That may be a reason why they seem to have cut down on smoking areas apart from the casino. I even did so myself when the casino was the closest smoking area. 

 

On the Escape casino you have a smoking and non smoking section yet just about every night they had to convert the non smoking tables into smoking because of the demand. No one was playing in non smoking, when asked no one wanted to move over there unless they could smoke. I have to question the oxymoron when people say things like 'I hated how smoky it was in the casino, they should just outlaw smoking, no one does it anymore anyway....' Obviously if you found a smoking area very smokey it's because there were a lot of smokers. 

 

With the rise in popularity in vaping I think the cruise lines are going to need to reverse course on the tiny amounts of smoking areas on the ships. People are willing to respect the non smokers and stay in designated areas but you need to give them adequate spaces to do it in. The small smoking lounge was standing room only on the Escape and that is a room that is supposed to be for cigar smokers.  

 

I agree it was silly of them to put the Casino by the open atrium, even with the great filters Escape has with so many smokers it will travel. I also agree employees shouldn't be subject to breathing it inches from their face (dealers) their entire shift. I would see nothing wrong with allowing them to wear masks if they wished just like any other profession that risks respiratory issues. 

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^^^ that is a false example to claim nonsmokers won’t gamble.  Nonsmokers are going to avoid a casino that smells of smoke because it is not truly nonsmoking.  Just like a hotel room that had a smoker from a prior visit isn’t nonsmoking.  It still stinks from smoke.  Unless there is a separate room that never allows smoking and that the smoke can’t waffe in then it is not nonsmoking and most nonsmokers will avoid it.

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1 hour ago, Wedgie23 said:

 

On the Escape casino you have a smoking and non smoking section yet just about every night they had to convert the non smoking tables into smoking because of the demand. No one was playing in non smoking, when asked no one wanted to move over there unless they could smoke. 

 

It’s been said before, but non smoking tables in a casino with smoking tables is about as viable as offering a non peeing section of the swimming pool!

For many non smokers, a smoking permitted casino is unusable. Given the small percentage of smokers on any ship, this means that the cruise line is offering a revenue producing facility to only a small minority of the passengers on board, and depriving the majority.That seems daft to me.

And the provision of supposed non smoking nights in an otherwise smoking permitted casino is a waste of time. Most non smokers still have a working sense of smell, and short of replacing all the soft furnishings, drapes, carpet etc between sessions, the casino is still going to smell very unpleasant.

If there was space available, two separate facilities could be offered, and could provide evidence to indicate whether non smokers gamble less than smokers, or not. 

Cant believe it myself, non smokers are likely to have more disposable income, not having an expensive addiction to service.

 

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2 hours ago, Ergates The Ant said:

It’s been said before, but non smoking tables in a casino with smoking tables is about as viable as offering a non peeing section of the swimming pool!

 

 

 That is why I only pee in the pool if the ship allows smoking in the casino. 🙂

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8 hours ago, Ergates The Ant said:

Most non smokers still have a working sense of smell, and short of replacing all the soft furnishings, drapes, carpet etc between sessions, the casino is still going to smell very unpleasant.

If there was space available, two separate facilities could be offered, and could provide evidence to indicate whether non smokers gamble less than smokers, or not. 

That's an interesting analogy. I too wouldn't mind more separation between the spaces so I suppose those who have been on Bliss would have a better idea. Though I'd imagine most smokers wouldn't feel limited to the smoking area, just limited to the smoking area while smoking where as non smokers wouldn't visit the smoking area at all. 

 

On Escape there was a bar which turned into a very crowded night club at night called Skylines located right next to the non smoking area of the casino, and on the opposite side of the non smoking area there is Oshehans, another bar and grill. Both of those were extremely popular and packed with people, I'm assuming some of which had to be non smokers. I would find it odd that non smokers would be willing to partake in these areas but non smoking gamblers would avoid an area a few feet closer to smokers to gamble. I also would imagine that serious gamblers who refuse to be close to smoking sections would investigate if a ships casino allows smoking before booking. 

8 hours ago, Ergates The Ant said:

Cant believe it myself, non smokers are likely to have more disposable income, not having an expensive addiction to service.

It could be assumed people who gamble have less disposable income than those who don't but realistically without knowing their complete finances I'd have no way of knowing if the person who just dropped 10K at the casino is still going home sitting pretty or just lost their house on that bet. Smoking could be expensive but if you don't know their income/expenses you don't have any idea how much more or less they have to gamble with than you do. 

 

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