Dogstar Posted November 11, 2018 #1 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Hi HAL Fans! As the Koningsdam heads into her first dry dock (Dec 02-09, 2018; Freeport, Bahamas) there's been various chit-chats about the confirmed, probable, wishful, unlikely &/or unwanted changes forthcoming: add Rolling Stone Rock Room venue revise Music Walk arrangement implement "Social/Surf/Premium" Internet packages convert casino to smoke-free etc. A number of us CC's will be aboard the Koningsdam's first sailing post-dry dock (11-day Southern Caribbean; Dec 10-21, 2018) with the obligatory Meet & Greet, Live From's & Trip Reports planned. In anticipation of the ship's update what would you like to know changed &/or stayed the same? Begin list now ... Cheers. Dogstar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted November 11, 2018 #2 Share Posted November 11, 2018 For us the most important change would be the casino smoke free OR removing the aft stairs between deck 2 and deck 3 so that smoke does not drift down from the casino to Music Walk area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted November 11, 2018 #3 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just looking forward to all your reports. However -- I know it probably can't be done -- but would like to see the Tamarind Bar (used to be called Silk Den) separate from the Tamarind restaurant like on the Eurodam and Nieuw Amsterdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted November 11, 2018 #4 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Post pictures of any major changes. Enjoy your cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bnxshs Posted November 11, 2018 #5 Share Posted November 11, 2018 What's still under construction during your cruise? Hopefully little to nothing at all. Enjoy your cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodjs Posted November 11, 2018 #6 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The music walk revision (hopefully with windows along the Queen's Lounge to isolate noise bleed) and a smoke-free casino would be my two items. Fingers crossed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted November 11, 2018 #7 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just disembarked after 24 wonderful days on the MS Koningsdam. Great ship and fantastic crew. Per reliable sources here is what is planned during the upcoming dry dock. Lincoln Center is being moved to Queen’s Lounge and will share venue with BB King Blues Band. Current Lincoln Center will become new Rolling Stone Rock and Roll venue. Culinary Arts Center will become extended dining room “Orange” for suite guest and those willing to pay more. Same food as dining room but will have two added feature meal choices each evening. Culinary Art Cooking demos will also be moved to Queen’s Lounge and the the stoves etc. will be mobile. We enjoyed eating at the Culinary Arts small and big bites restaurant but that will be no more. We will miss not having breakfast in Pinnacle when we stay in a Neptune Suite. Will have to wait and see how “Orange” looks and works. We missed our old favorite watering hole Pinnacle Bar but found the Tamarind Bar was a nice quiet substitute. As first time Koningsdam Cruisers we we really enjoyed all the new venues and options. Lots of activities. Awaiting flight more later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyrc5 Posted November 11, 2018 #8 Share Posted November 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, aliaschief said: Just disembarked after 24 wonderful days on the MS Koningsdam. Great ship and fantastic crew. Per reliable sources here is what is planned during the upcoming dry dock. Lincoln Center is being moved to Queen’s Lounge and will share venue with BB King Blues Band. Current Lincoln Center will become new Rolling Stone Rock and Roll venue. Culinary Arts Center will become extended dining room “Orange” for suite guest and those willing to pay more. Same food as dining room but will have two added feature meal choices each evening. Culinary Art Cooking demos will also be moved to Queen’s Lounge and the the stoves etc. will be mobile. We enjoyed eating at the Culinary Arts small and big bites restaurant but that will be no more. We will miss not having breakfast in Pinnacle when we stay in a Neptune Suite. Will have to wait and see how “Orange” looks and works. We missed our old favorite watering hole Pinnacle Bar but found the Tamarind Bar was a nice quiet substitute. As first time Koningsdam Cruisers we we really enjoyed all the new venues and options. Lots of activities. Awaiting flight more later. Aliaschief - as a 5 Star did you signup and take the "Cooking Class" that is offered as one of the perks for 5 Star? Last year on the KDam it turned out to be just a demo with no lunch following in the pinnacle like in the past. Wonder how the "Cooking Class" will work out in the Queens Lounge? I guess we will find out in January when we are on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyrc5 Posted November 11, 2018 #9 Share Posted November 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Dogstar said: Hi HAL Fans! As the Koningsdam heads into her first dry dock (Dec 02-09, 2018; Freeport, Bahamas) there's been various chit-chats about the confirmed, probable, wishful, unlikely &/or unwanted changes forthcoming: add Rolling Stone Rock Room venue revise Music Walk arrangement implement "Social/Surf/Premium" Internet packages convert casino to smoke-free etc. A number of us CC's will be aboard the Koningsdam's first sailing post-dry dock (11-day Southern Caribbean; Dec 10-21, 2018) with the obligatory Meet & Greet, Live From's & Trip Reports planned. In anticipation of the ship's update what would you like to know changed &/or stayed the same? Begin list now ... Cheers. Dogstar. We will be boarding on Jan 13 for 42 days so looking forward to what ever updates and photos you can give us on the changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted November 11, 2018 #10 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 hours ago, iflyrc5 said: Aliaschief - as a 5 Star did you signup and take the "Cooking Class" that is offered as one of the perks for 5 Star? Last year on the KDam it turned out to be just a demo with no lunch following in the pinnacle like in the past. Wonder how the "Cooking Class" will work out in the Queens Lounge? I guess we will find out in January when we are on board. 2 hours ago, iflyrc5 said: We will be boarding on Jan 13 for 42 days so looking forward to what ever updates and photos you can give us on the changes. 2 hours ago, iflyrc5 said: Aliaschief - as a 5 Star did you signup and take the "Cooking Class" that is offered as one of the perks for 5 Star? Last year on the KDam it turned out to be just a demo with no lunch following in the pinnacle like in the past. Wonder how the "Cooking Class" will work out in the Queens Lounge? I guess we will find out in January when we are on board. We never saw or received an invitation to a Cooking Class. We did hear there is no Pinnacle lunch offered anymore with cooking classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogstar Posted November 12, 2018 Author #11 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Thanks everyone for your well-wishes & list additions. Keep ‘em coming !!! *** inquiring CC’s would like to know ... Music Walk ~ re-arrangement Rolling Stone Rock Room ~ new venue, replace Lincoln Center Stage location [ @aliaschief ] Lincoln Center Stage ~ share with BB King’s Blues Club in Queen’s Lounge [ @aliaschief ] Culinary Arts ~ cooking demos in Queen’s Lounge, with mobile stoves [ @aliaschief, @iflyrc5 ] Club Orange ~ new program, dining venue replace Culinary Arts Center location [ @aliaschief ] Queen’s Lounge ~ noise isolation windows [ @twodjs ] Internet 3-tier packages ~ implementation Casino ~ smoke-free [ @VMax1700 ] Aft stairs between Decks 2 & 3 ~ remove [ @VMax1700 ] Tamarind Bar (Silk Bar) ~ separate from Tamarind Restaurant [ @Krazy Kruizers ] Pinnacle Grill ~ lunch with cooking classes [ @aliaschief ] 5* Mariner benefit ~ cooking class invitation [ @aliaschief ] Plus ... Reports [ @Krazy Kruizers ] Photographs ~ major changes [ @ski ww ] Construction ~ completion status [ @0bnxshs ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted November 12, 2018 #12 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I would like to know if my room # changes or stays the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyrc5 Posted November 12, 2018 #13 Share Posted November 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, *Miss G* said: I would like to know if my room # changes or stays the same! I would think that since HAL is not adding cabins during the dry dock that numbers will not change. If they were HAL would post a pre and post dry dock deck plan on the website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted November 12, 2018 #14 Share Posted November 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, iflyrc5 said: I would think that since HAL is not adding cabins during the dry dock that numbers will not change. If they were HAL would post a pre and post dry dock deck plan on the website Sorry ifly. Was a joke. I guess a poor one. I am on that sailing and was wondering if my room will change between now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogstar Posted November 12, 2018 Author #15 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, *Miss G* said: I would like to know if my room # changes or stays the same! @*Miss G*, Carnac the Magificent says “Maybe. Maybe not. Time will tell. All will be revealed on 10-Dec-2018.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted November 12, 2018 #16 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I can't believe I missed the most important bit of intel! 🍷 The Wine Lists!!! 🍷 Dogstar, this may be your most importatnt mission yet. To go boldly etc etc. Actually, an update on the new wine lists and discount would be greatly appreciated! Ta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted November 12, 2018 #17 Share Posted November 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Dogstar said: @*Miss G*, Carnac the Magificent says “Maybe. Maybe not. Time will tell. All will be revealed on 10-Dec-2018.” Aaargh!! I got the same reply from the Magic 8 Ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted November 12, 2018 #18 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, VMax1700 said: I can't believe I missed the most important bit of intel! 🍷 The Wine Lists!!! 🍷 Dogstar, this may be your most importatnt mission yet. To go boldly etc etc. Actually, an update on the new wine lists and discount would be greatly appreciated! Ta! Yes! I also want to know if they’re just going to hand me a tablet to figure out my own wine, again, or if they’ll actually talk to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Crew News Posted November 12, 2018 #19 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I encountered the wine tablets in the PG on the Zaandam but they were not allowed in the hands of the customers. The Wine Steward used them to help the customers make selections. There are tablet wine choice features, "Stars Selection" and one that matches your personality based on four questions (ugh): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyrobinfly Posted November 12, 2018 #20 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I would like to know if Nami Sushi will be separate from Tamarind as it is on Nieuw Statendam and if folks can go there to order a la carte sushi independent of the restaurant. Looking forward to all the reports and photos. We will be on Kdam January 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted November 12, 2018 #21 Share Posted November 12, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 3:28 AM, VMax1700 said: For us the most important change would be the casino smoke free OR removing the aft stairs between deck 2 and deck 3 so that smoke does not drift down from the casino to Music Walk area. I have a feeling that is not going to happen - as Captain Albert's blog is showing that the same stairway is being installed on Nieuw Statendam. I think it is a gorgeous starcase. I don't gamble or smoke, and I had to make a special trip there just to walk down it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted November 12, 2018 #22 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, *Miss G* said: Yes! I also want to know if they’re just going to hand me a tablet to figure out my own wine, again, or if they’ll actually talk to me. All the wine stewards we had were very knowledgeable and we trusted and enjoyed their recommendations. Ira the bartender at the Scotch, Bourbon Spirits Tasting Bar “Notes” was encyclopedic in his knowledge. We spent a lot of money at Notes!🥃 In our 24 days on her from October 18 til yesterday we would be hard pressed to find anything to complain about. Just a great ship, crew and cruise. With over 300 sailing days on Holland America we feel they’re headed in the right direction on these Pinnacle Class ships even though we also enjoy the other classes of ships in the Fleet. Edited November 12, 2018 by aliaschief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted November 12, 2018 #23 Share Posted November 12, 2018 42 minutes ago, Vict0riann said: I have a feeling that is not going to happen - as Captain Albert's blog is showing that the same stairway is being installed on Nieuw Statendam. I think it is a gorgeous starcase. I don't gamble or smoke, and I had to make a special trip there just to walk down it! It was really a tongue in cheek comment as a (over the top) way to stop the smoke infiltrating down to the music walk area. It is a magnificent staircase - right out of 'Gone with the Wind', which is where I wish the smoke went! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare boards Posted November 13, 2018 #24 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I walked that stairway and I did think the smoke that bad compared to being in the midst of the casino, that was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogstar Posted November 14, 2018 Author #25 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The list is steadily going. Definitely need fellow CC’s assistance with the reasearch, otherwise I may be too busy wandering aimlessly lost between rearranged venues eating & drinking myself to excess !!! *** inquiring CC’s would like to know ... Music Walk ~ re-arrangement Rolling Stone Rock Room ~ new venue, replace Lincoln Center Stage location [ @aliaschief ] Lincoln Center Stage ~ share with BB King’s Blues Club in Queen’s Lounge [ @aliaschief ] Culinary Arts ~ cooking demos in Queen’s Lounge, with mobile stoves [ @aliaschief, @iflyrc5 ] Club Orange ~ new program, dining venue replace Culinary Arts Center location [ @aliaschief ] Queen’s Lounge ~ noise isolation windows [ @twodjs ] Internet 3-tier packages ~ implementation Casino ~ smoke-free [ @VMax1700 ] Aft stairs between Decks 2 & 3 ~ remove [ @VMax1700 ] Tamarind Bar (Silk Bar) ~ separate from Tamarind Restaurant [ @Krazy Nami Sushi ~ separate from Tamarind, a la carte sushi ordering [ @flyrobinfly ] Pinnacle Grill ~ lunch with cooking classes [ @ Cooking Class ~ 5* Mariner benefit invitation [ @aliaschief ] Wine ~ lists, discounts [ @VMax1700 ] Wine Steward ~ interactive human, self-serve tablet [ @*Miss G* ] Plus ... Reports [ @Krazy Kruizers ] Photographs ~ major changes [ @ski ww ] Construction ~ completion status [ @0bnxshs ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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