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We will be cruising on NCL this June and are trying to find the best (and most cost effective) way to go round-trip Philadelphia to the Manhattan Cruise Terminal.  Got a quote from Dave's Limo of $340 plus tips for round-trip Philadelphia/Manhattan Cruise Terminal.  Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks so much!

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Verify with Dave's that price is direct in both directions. If it is a share it could mean you stop either on the way home at Newark airport to pick up passengers. I have found the best thing to do is stay overnight at the Hilton Garden Inn in Ridgefield Park for one overnight you leave you car there they shuttle to and from the pier for about the same price as parking at the pier. 

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Most cost effective way would be to take Uber/Lyft. We live in Philly and have gotten off many cruises in NYC and when you compare the Uber/Taxi to the train station, Amtrak fare, and then Uber/Taxi to home in Philly for 2 or more people Uber/Lyft was faster and less expensive. Fare from Midtown Manhattan is usually $230-$260 all in including tip. 

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Best and most cost effective are usually totally different. Best to me is a private limo service but it will no doubt be the most expensive.

I'm usually reluctant to recommend it because of timeliness issues, but for one, two or three people Amtrak from Philadelphia 30th St. Station to NY Penn Station with a taxi ride to and from the cruise terminal in would likely be the most cost effective. Picking dates in June at random I saw round trip fares of $88 per person. Figure on an additional $20 for a taxi each way in NY and the round trip total would be $128 for one person,  $216 for two or $304 for three.

 

Note: I haven't included any taxi or Uber fare in Philadelphia because I have no idea where you live.

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I agree with the horseman.  Train up to Penn Station, then taxi or uber to the port.  Reliable and reasonably priced and easy to take all your luggage

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Is NJT an option to Penn Station in NY.  Should be less expensive than Amtrak.

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11 minutes ago, mskaufman said:

Is NJT an option to Penn Station in NY.  Should be less expensive than Amtrak.

There's no through train service on NJ Transit from Philadelphia to NY Penn Station. You have to take a SEPTA Trenton Line train from 30th St. Station to Trenton then transfer to a NJ Transit Northeast Corridor train to NY Penn. Using SEPTA and NJ transit trains will take much longer...up to an hour more on the schedule than taking Amtrak, and as bad as Amtrak can be in running on time, NJ transit is far worse. It also can be difficult to find space to store luggage on NJ Transit, and if you need help with your luggage there are no porters on NJ Transit but there are on Amtrak.

 

Yes, the fare is cheaper, but in my opinion it's just not a good way to make this trip.

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Amtrak (and the cars needed to get to and from the stations) for 2 or more people is actually just as expensive as an Uber would be directly to the port. We live in Center City Philadelphia and have tried both ways. The only reason Amtrak would be better would be if you were headed in or out of NYC during rush hour-- otherwise the Uber/Lyft is about the same cost and with luggage, we've found more convenient. 

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On 3/25/2019 at 3:57 PM, princeton123211 said:

Most cost effective way would be to take Uber/Lyft. We live in Philly and have gotten off many cruises in NYC and when you compare the Uber/Taxi to the train station, Amtrak fare, and then Uber/Taxi to home in Philly for 2 or more people Uber/Lyft was faster and less expensive. Fare from Midtown Manhattan is usually $230-$260 all in including tip. 

 

22 hours ago, princeton123211 said:

Amtrak (and the cars needed to get to and from the stations) for 2 or more people is actually just as expensive as an Uber would be directly to the port. We live in Center City Philadelphia and have tried both ways. The only reason Amtrak would be better would be if you were headed in or out of NYC during rush hour-- otherwise the Uber/Lyft is about the same cost and with luggage, we've found more convenient. 

In looking at your math I think you're comparing the one way cost of Uber with the round trip cost of Amtrak I've quoted  plus taxi/Uber at each end of the train ride.

 

From what I see Uber runs about $250 from Manhattan to Philadelphia...consistent with your stated $230-$260 estimate, but you've omitted the cost of Uber from Philadelphia to NY which looks to be about $150 on average. The result is that the round trip via Uber is about $400,  versus about $216 round trip for two on Amtrak including taxi fare in NY plus the cost of Uber between home and 30th St. Station. Let's say the Uber in Philadelphia is $20 each way...$40 roundtrip, bringing the total estimated Uber and Amtrak round trip for two to $256 versus $400 for Uber round trip.

 

Not arguing convenience, but strictly on $$$ Amtrak plus taxi/Uber is about $150 cheaper.

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1 hour ago, njhorseman said:

From what I see Uber runs about $250 from Manhattan to Philadelphia...consistent with your stated $230-$260 estimate, but you've omitted the cost of Uber from Philadelphia to NY which looks to be about $150 on average. The result is that the round trip via Uber is about $400,  versus about $216 round trip for two on Amtrak including taxi fare in NY plus the cost of Uber between home and 30th St. Station. Let's say the Uber in Philadelphia is $20 each way...$40 roundtrip, bringing the total estimated Uber and Amtrak round trip for two to $256 versus $400 for Uber round trip.

You're also assuming that they will catch the handful of Keystone or Pennsylvanian service trains which are priced $60-$78 per person each way. Most trains are the Regional or Acela Express which are $110-$198 per person. It takes a bit more planning to catch the cheaper trains. 

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2 hours ago, princeton123211 said:

You're also assuming that they will catch the handful of Keystone or Pennsylvanian service trains which are priced $60-$78 per person each way. Most trains are the Regional or Acela Express which are $110-$198 per person. It takes a bit more planning to catch the cheaper trains. 

No...I'm seeing lots of Northeast Regional trains in addition to Keystone or Pennsylvanian service that have fares as low as $44, or at worst $60 if the $44 fare is sold out, so the choice of trains is large at the cheaper price, not limited as you suggest. The only planning required is booking in advance to catch the lower fares, which is easy for the OP to do since they're traveling in June. They have their cruise date, so they don't have to speculate about when they're going to travel, they simply have to book their train tickets for the dates they need them.

 

If you want to start comparing Uber to Acela fares then I suggest you compare those fares to UberXL or Uber Black, which will cost $350 to $400 from Manhattan to Philadelphia, not $250. That way you're comparing apples to apples in terms of class of service.

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20 minutes ago, njhorseman said:

If you want to start comparing Uber to Acela fares then I suggest you compare those fares to UberXL or Uber Black, which will cost $350 to $400 from Manhattan to Philadelphia, not $250. That way you're comparing apples to apples in terms of class of service.

The level of service argument I don't buy into-- when we get off a ship or a plane with bags in NYC and need to return to our home in Center City Philly the choice is usually between a quick UberX that picks us up at the pier or airport and delivers us directly to our front door or catching the next available train our of Penn Station which may be cheap or might be more expensive depending on whats available. Very few people book Amtrak well in advance.

 

Theres no way to make an "apples to apples" argument between Amtrak and Uber, no matter what level or service for each. The point being that the point to point convenience of the car service in the past, especially being tired from an early morning and traveling with luggage from a cruise, has been well worth the extremely small premium (if there even was a premium). Its almost always faster as well-- when you factor in the cab to Penn Station, waiting to board, train ride down, disembarking at 30th St Station, and then waiting for another Uber to take you home. 

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2 hours ago, princeton123211 said:

The level of service argument I don't buy into-- when we get off a ship or a plane with bags in NYC and need to return to our home in Center City Philly the choice is usually between a quick UberX that picks us up at the pier or airport and delivers us directly to our front door or catching the next available train our of Penn Station which may be cheap or might be more expensive depending on whats available. Very few people book Amtrak well in advance.

 

Theres no way to make an "apples to apples" argument between Amtrak and Uber, no matter what level or service for each. The point being that the point to point convenience of the car service in the past, especially being tired from an early morning and traveling with luggage from a cruise, has been well worth the extremely small premium (if there even was a premium). Its almost always faster as well-- when you factor in the cab to Penn Station, waiting to board, train ride down, disembarking at 30th St Station, and then waiting for another Uber to take you home. 

Yeah, well I'm not buying your "very few people book Amtrak well in advance" contention. This isn't a last minute spur-of-the-moment let's go to NY today trip. They have a cruise booked and just need transportation to the pier. Why wouldn't they book Amtrak in advance? If you have to fly to your cruise you'd book your airline tickets in advance.

 

By the way you must have missed my statement a couple of posts back  "Not arguing convenience, but strictly on $$$..." so stop arguing your case based on convenience because there is no disagreement.  

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We just returned from our cruise on Sunday and we stayed, as we do every year, at the Hilton Garden Inn in Ridgefield Park, NJ.  When we originally booked, the cost of the hotel/services came to $328 (including tax).  I kept checking their website and noticed three weeks before sail date the price came down to $278 (including tax).  The cost to park at the pier is about $280.00.

 

The hotel never disappoints us.  It has been refurbished and has a very pleasant vibe.  

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