Pinballs83 Posted October 22, 2023 #3201 Share Posted October 22, 2023 You are probably better off letting them get a couple test cruises before the maiden voyage or all the staff is going to be new as well. Can't wait for this cruise. I'm going on the 2nd one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted October 22, 2023 #3202 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) Some new photos of the new bow lights by finki. https://www.instagram.com/p/CytJAu4oVnT/?img_index=1 Edited October 22, 2023 by Tall-Cruiser 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremita85 Posted October 22, 2023 #3203 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) It took a while, but here are some of my photos from the Icon of the Seas' inclining tests from last Tuesday. The inclining tests took five hours to complete. https://www.facebook.com/Eremita85/posts/24890090093923052 PS. my photos of the bow lights etc. are coming maybe next week 😄 Finki is way more faster with the editing and posting... Edited October 22, 2023 by Eremita85 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topanga49er Posted October 22, 2023 #3204 Share Posted October 22, 2023 It really is a pretty ship. Need to find a way to get on before our scheduled 2025 date! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremita85 Posted October 23, 2023 #3205 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Some photos from this morning, when Leopard arrived at the shipyard. https://www.facebook.com/Eremita85/posts/24893320373600024 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted October 23, 2023 Author #3206 Share Posted October 23, 2023 I like the prospect of 'four Icon-class ships'. From SOMEC gruppo on LinkedIn: #glazing #naval #qualitàcostruttivaitaliana #worldleaderinmarineglazing From 20129_132013_2023_oneinfo.html (borsaitaliana.it) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 23, 2023 #3207 Share Posted October 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Lloyd555 said: I like the prospect of 'four Icon-class ships'. From SOMEC gruppo on LinkedIn: #glazing #naval #qualitàcostruttivaitaliana #worldleaderinmarineglazing From 20129_132013_2023_oneinfo.html (borsaitaliana.it) Wouldn't surprise me to see even more. They did 6 Oasis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumping Cruiser Posted October 24, 2023 #3208 Share Posted October 24, 2023 14 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: Wouldn't surprise me to see even more. They did 6 Oasis. I agree. I am also expecting edge-class sized ships as well over the next 5 or so years. I think this is known internally as ‘Project Discovery’ if I remember right. These will be needed to start to replace Radiance and Voyager class. I wonder though whether they will build 3 Icons then a PD vessel, or just 4 Icons one after the other? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 24, 2023 #3209 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jumping Cruiser said: I agree. I am also expecting edge-class sized ships as well over the next 5 or so years. I think this is known internally as ‘Project Discovery’ if I remember right. These will be needed to start to replace Radiance and Voyager class. I wonder though whether they will build 3 Icons then a PD vessel, or just 4 Icons one after the other? You're correct, it is Project Discovery. To me. They need these before a 4th Icon class. I'm guessing thst once they start you will see one a year for a number of years in a row. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Graveson Posted October 24, 2023 #3210 Share Posted October 24, 2023 40 minutes ago, Jumping Cruiser said: I agree. I am also expecting edge-class sized ships as well over the next 5 or so years. I think this is known internally as ‘Project Discovery’ if I remember right. These will be needed to start to replace Radiance and Voyager class. I wonder though whether they will build 3 Icons then a PD vessel, or just 4 Icons one after the other? Its funny really... I think it was almost inevitable for a 4th Icon Class ship to be ordered. But I think a few things need to be considered. Firstly, Royal have had the option of Oasis 7 from Chantiers De L'Atlantique, which was shelved/rejected due to the Icon Program. The concept of Oasis 7 would only follow Utopia: LNG-Powered, similar features, etc. Obviously Royal and Chantiers have a good relationship, however it is no were near the partnership with the Meyer Group. Voyager Class, Freedom Class, Oasis & Allure, Quantum Class and now Icon Class ships have been built at both Meyer Turku, Finland and/or Meyer Werft, Germany. My point about partnerships with shipyards is relevant as Royal put the faith in the Meyer Group for each of these classes of ships, all different and unique, even ground-breaking in design, which shows with the Icon Program that Royal trust them to construct and partially design these new ships. One oddball is the Edge-Class for Celebrity Cruises, all built/being built at Chantiers, you could make an argument for the rest of the Oasis-Class being built in Chantiers, however my argument for it is that Tui Cruises and the Carnival Corporation had booked orders at Meyer Turku for quite a while, leaving Royal to have to move designs to France. Meyer Turku Ship Timeline I've inserted this link to show that they had been booked up by Ferry companies and other Cruise Lines after Oasis & Allure. It also has to be said that size wasn't why they moved, it was the shipyard schedule, so rumours about moving because of size are false. Secondly, Project Discovery/Discovery of the Seas. Let's be honest, Royal needs this. A smaller class of ship, similar in size to the Voyager/Freedom Class ships. For me, Independence of the Seas is the pinnacle of the fleet; packing all the fun into a smaller package. From what I believe, Meyer Werft in Papenburg, Germany will be contracted to construct these ships within the next few months. Meyer Werft's schedule is empty after the delivery of Disney's 3rd Triton-Class vessel, meaning that Royal could get in there and order their new ships. A rumbling that I heard from a few people I know with high up positions at Meyer Werft is that Royal have been having regular meetings with the team at the shipyard to go over what they want, and also show off their designs. Meyer Werft Ship Timeline Again, I have inserted a link that shows the orders of new ships, bare in mind that Asuka III will be built in the smaller dock where Silver Nova/Silver Ray have been constructed in, leaving the famous Hall 6 empty. Project Discovery, it is a project that truly is secretive, much like the Icon Program was for the past 7 something years. What we can understand so far after the confirmation from various sources such as the Captain of Ovation of the Seas, the ship will be smaller than the Quantum-Class, but bigger than the Voyager Class, potentially putting it in the range of 150,000 Gross Registered Tonnes. That puts it in a similar size category as the Freedom-Class, Norwegian's Breakaway-Class and Queen Mary 2. Obviously, it is still big, however, I think it is the perfect size for Royal to play with, it would allow them to fit the standard Royal features, as well as adding new and exciting features, never seen before. I think we may find out some more information shortly, I do believe that a contract will be signed with the Meyer Group within the next few months for this new class of ships, but you know, we'll see what happens. Finally, the case for a 4th Icon Class vessel. You could say this is a bit of a premature decision as Icon hasn't even started sailing yet, however, the fact that bookings for Icon's 2025-26 Season had to be opened 3 months early, says a lot about the demand for this new class of ship. It shows that a lot of people are putting their faith in Royal for these new ships, showing that Royal has to deliver what the people want. When Star goes on sale next Summer, that will be the final indication of whether or not a 4th Icon-Class ship is needed, if demand is incredibly high like it was for Icon, that ship will be ordered, otherwise it may leave Royal in doubt whether or not to put in another $2 Billion investment. I think we should just hold onto our horses for now, but I think once we see how well Icon performs next year and see how well demand for Star is then we can through all our eggs in one basket and get that 4th Icon-Class ship underway... If I have rambled too much, tough... I just want to share my thoughts and opinions on all the current stuff going on at Royal, possibly adding to some of your thoughts. But yeah, thats me done for now! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 24, 2023 #3211 Share Posted October 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, Nathan Graveson said: That puts it in a similar size category as the Freedom-Class, Norwegian's Breakaway-Class and Queen Mary 2. You left out the most important comparison...Edge class. Fits with possibly having them built at Meyer. I expect a similar design 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Graveson Posted October 24, 2023 #3212 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: You left out the most important comparison...Edge class. Fits with possibly having them built at Meyer. I expect a similar design I could see design cues from the Edge-Class, however, we are most likely expecting a Parabolic Ultra-Bow similar to Icon and Edge, and possibly a heavier emphasis on Infinite Balconies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 24, 2023 #3213 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Nathan Graveson said: I could see design cues from the Edge-Class, however, we are most likely expecting a Parabolic Ultra-Bow similar to Icon and Edge, and possibly a heavier emphasis on Infinite Balconies! I was only referring to size wise. Just seemed more appropriate to compare Discovery to existing Royal / Celebrity ships than to NCL or Cunard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted October 24, 2023 Author #3214 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Nathan Graveson said: Its funny really... I think it was almost inevitable for a 4th Icon Class ship to be ordered. But I think a few things need to be considered. Firstly, Royal have had the option of Oasis 7 from Chantiers De L'Atlantique, which was shelved/rejected due to the Icon Program. The concept of Oasis 7 would only follow Utopia: LNG-Powered, similar features, etc. Obviously Royal and Chantiers have a good relationship, however it is no were near the partnership with the Meyer Group. Voyager Class, Freedom Class, Oasis & Allure, Quantum Class and now Icon Class ships have been built at both Meyer Turku, Finland and/or Meyer Werft, Germany. My point about partnerships with shipyards is relevant as Royal put the faith in the Meyer Group for each of these classes of ships, all different and unique, even ground-breaking in design, which shows with the Icon Program that Royal trust them to construct and partially design these new ships. One oddball is the Edge-Class for Celebrity Cruises, all built/being built at Chantiers, you could make an argument for the rest of the Oasis-Class being built in Chantiers, however my argument for it is that Tui Cruises and the Carnival Corporation had booked orders at Meyer Turku for quite a while, leaving Royal to have to move designs to France. Meyer Turku Ship Timeline I've inserted this link to show that they had been booked up by Ferry companies and other Cruise Lines after Oasis & Allure. It also has to be said that size wasn't why they moved, it was the shipyard schedule, so rumours about moving because of size are false. Secondly, Project Discovery/Discovery of the Seas. Let's be honest, Royal needs this. A smaller class of ship, similar in size to the Voyager/Freedom Class ships. For me, Independence of the Seas is the pinnacle of the fleet; packing all the fun into a smaller package. From what I believe, Meyer Werft in Papenburg, Germany will be contracted to construct these ships within the next few months. Meyer Werft's schedule is empty after the delivery of Disney's 3rd Triton-Class vessel, meaning that Royal could get in there and order their new ships. A rumbling that I heard from a few people I know with high up positions at Meyer Werft is that Royal have been having regular meetings with the team at the shipyard to go over what they want, and also show off their designs. Meyer Werft Ship Timeline Again, I have inserted a link that shows the orders of new ships, bare in mind that Asuka III will be built in the smaller dock where Silver Nova/Silver Ray have been constructed in, leaving the famous Hall 6 empty. Project Discovery, it is a project that truly is secretive, much like the Icon Program was for the past 7 something years. What we can understand so far after the confirmation from various sources such as the Captain of Ovation of the Seas, the ship will be smaller than the Quantum-Class, but bigger than the Voyager Class, potentially putting it in the range of 150,000 Gross Registered Tonnes. That puts it in a similar size category as the Freedom-Class, Norwegian's Breakaway-Class and Queen Mary 2. Obviously, it is still big, however, I think it is the perfect size for Royal to play with, it would allow them to fit the standard Royal features, as well as adding new and exciting features, never seen before. I think we may find out some more information shortly, I do believe that a contract will be signed with the Meyer Group within the next few months for this new class of ships, but you know, we'll see what happens. Finally, the case for a 4th Icon Class vessel. You could say this is a bit of a premature decision as Icon hasn't even started sailing yet, however, the fact that bookings for Icon's 2025-26 Season had to be opened 3 months early, says a lot about the demand for this new class of ship. It shows that a lot of people are putting their faith in Royal for these new ships, showing that Royal has to deliver what the people want. When Star goes on sale next Summer, that will be the final indication of whether or not a 4th Icon-Class ship is needed, if demand is incredibly high like it was for Icon, that ship will be ordered, otherwise it may leave Royal in doubt whether or not to put in another $2 Billion investment. I think we should just hold onto our horses for now, but I think once we see how well Icon performs next year and see how well demand for Star is then we can through all our eggs in one basket and get that 4th Icon-Class ship underway... If I have rambled too much, tough... I just want to share my thoughts and opinions on all the current stuff going on at Royal, possibly adding to some of your thoughts. But yeah, thats me done for now! I got more curious about Project Discovery just in time. Seeing it mentioned more. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vichastwins Posted October 24, 2023 #3215 Share Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 3:36 PM, topanga49er said: It really is a pretty ship. Need to find a way to get on before our scheduled 2025 date! I had the same problem! So i went booked a May 2024 date with a group rate I couldn’t pass up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eekaksi7 Posted October 27, 2023 #3216 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Icon is currently scheduled to depart for its second sea trials tomorrow night 8PM local time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremita85 Posted October 27, 2023 #3217 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Some photos from last night: https://www.facebook.com/Eremita85/posts/24919141947684533 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Monium Posted October 27, 2023 #3218 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The Icon has been christened with snow! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted October 27, 2023 #3219 Share Posted October 27, 2023 It's Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Monium Posted October 27, 2023 #3220 Share Posted October 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, deliver42 said: It's Finland. Yes it is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Monium Posted October 28, 2023 #3221 Share Posted October 28, 2023 This looks great. Don't ever want to need to use one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremita85 Posted October 28, 2023 #3222 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Icon's departure was canceled this evening and postponed to tomorrow morning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted October 28, 2023 #3223 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eremita85 said: Icon's departure was canceled this evening and postponed to tomorrow morning. Thanks for the update. Just looked at webcam and looks like a lot of people are out probably to see Icon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremita85 Posted October 28, 2023 #3224 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tall-Cruiser said: Thanks for the update. Just looked at webcam and looks like a lot of people are out probably to see Icon. Some of them propably, but there is sauna which is pretty popular throughout the year 🙂 some people are still swimming in the sea too! Our local tug from port of Turku already left, three others which came from elsewhere will propably stay there whole night. Edited October 28, 2023 by Eremita85 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted October 28, 2023 #3225 Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Eremita85 said: Some of them propably, but there is sauna which is pretty popular throughout the year 🙂 some people are still swimming in the sea too! Our local tug from port of Turku already left, three others which came from elsewhere will propably stay there whole night. The water must be real cold for swimming this time of the year with the snow just starting, but I suppose many enjoy that there 😀 Icon is looking good with its lighting at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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