No show vs. cancel

[cruisinmeme]

I have seen questions regarding this subject but most was wanting some money back.  We are booked for 2 weeks from now. Everything is paid (fare, tips, excursions), non refundable;e airfare and pre flight hotel (non refundable) well my husband has deceived he doesn’t want to go. Will be others in our group so i am going.  My question being is there an advantage to one or the other for no show or cancel. I have understood taxes and port charges are refundable. Also i feel certain the tips and of coarse excursions. All being said that is the confusion to me on no show vs. cancel.

i plan to notify the airline.  Will sorta aggravate me that they will sale a ticket and stick someone in his spot, yet my fare is non refundable.  And no.... this was not a cheap last minute flight. Flights to miami was fee and far between when we booked (last august) so we took it. 

The bright side to all this is he is saving us 585.00 in dog boarding fees and saving my daughter 800.00

thanks

[4774Papa]

I can't help you as to whether or not it is better to have a no show or notify the cruise line in advance.  Personally, I would err on the side of not hiding that your husband is not coming on the cruise.

Perhaps the cruise line will give you a small discount on a future cruise?   

[smplybcause]

From what I've read on here, several say that if you cancel the second person in your room before you sail you would lose their money paid based on the penalty schedule (minus port fees & taxes and any other prepaid items) and the cruiseline can then reprice your fare as a single rate (ie make you pay for the whole cabin or 200% the current pp rate). If the second just no shows you still get the refundable items refunded, but no single supplement would be added. There are some travel insurance policies that cover the single supplement in case a cabin mate cancels, but I'm not sure whether the cabin mate has to cancel for a covered reason or not for that to kick in. 

[cruisinmeme]

8 hours ago, smplybcause said:

From what I've read on here, several say that if you cancel the second person in your room before you sail you would lose their money paid based on the penalty schedule (minus port fees & taxes and any other prepaid items) and the cruiseline can then reprice your fare as a single rate (ie make you pay for the whole cabin or 200% the current pp rate). If the second just no shows you still get the refundable items refunded, but no single supplement would be added. There are some travel insurance policies that cover the single supplement in case a cabin mate cancels, but I'm not sure whether the cabin mate has to cancel for a covered reason or not for that to kick in. 

 

 

I guess i will find out.  I can see if we were getting a refund that would apply. To me it would like paying for 3 people and only one going in the scenario you describe. 

All this would of been avoided if he had just told me before i got busy booking everything.

[mnventure]

You are in the penalty period and i don’t think you will get any refund if you cancel. And like someone else said, you could have to pay the single supplement. It’s best if he is a no show. 

[alisonslp]

I wouldn't alert the airline unless it is transferable to a different flight (likely for a cost). Presumably, he is seated next to you? You may get lucky and have that seat stay empty but if you alert ahead of time, they will certainly sell it.

[cruisinmeme]

12 hours ago, alisonslp said:

I wouldn't alert the airline unless it is transferable to a different flight (likely for a cost). Presumably, he is seated next to you? You may get lucky and have that seat stay empty but if you alert ahead of time, they will certainly sell it.

 

That is what i was thinking. I know there will be no refund so why feed their pocket even more.

[rrebel94]

If it were me, I would let the airline know that you are canceling the ticket.  If he is a no-show on the airline, you will forfeit that money spent.  If you cancel, most airlines will give you credit for the unused fare that you can use for a future flight.  This is usually one year from the time of booking.  You would have to pay the cancellation fee, depending on the airline, if you wanted to use that credit, but it's better than losing the entire fare altogether.  Check your airline to see their cancellation policy.

 

I wouldn't bet on the airline leaving his seat unoccupied.  If there are standby passengers, the seat will be given to a standby when your husband is a no-show ten minutes before departure.

[cruisinmeme]

47 minutes ago, rrebel94 said:

If it were me, I would let the airline know that you are canceling the ticket.  If he is a no-show on the airline, you will forfeit that money spent.  If you cancel, most airlines will give you credit for the unused fare that you can use for a future flight.  This is usually one year from the time of booking.  You would have to pay the cancellation fee, depending on the airline, if you wanted to use that credit, but it's better than losing the entire fare altogether.  Check your airline to see their cancellation policy.

 

I wouldn't bet on the airline leaving his seat unoccupied.  If there are standby passengers, the seat will be given to a standby when your husband is a no-show ten minutes before departure.

 

 

Ours are non refundable;e f;fights so i know there will not be a refund. 

Also fairly certain they will double dip and put a stand by person in that seat.

[cruisinmeme]

Ok i did call NCL and yes, they pull some sort of deal (still doesn’t make sense to me) but if i cancel my husband it would cost another 1000.00 besides what we already paid for his ticket. I know with 16 days to go there is no refund. Can check for a solo rate in the next two weeks before leaving. So yes, no show is the answer if that doesn’t happen(sale on solo)  I am going to start a new thread and see if anyone actually went by themself and partner was a no show to see how that panned out.

i will never figure out why a person has to pay more to cancel a person.  It has NEVER been an issue that i thought we would get a penny back. They have the money for 2 people in a room.

[rrebel94]

Non-refundable doesn't mean you lose your money.  This means they won't give you money back for the unused flight.  Depending on the airline, they will issue you a credit for the amount of the cancelled flight.  This credit would be applied to a future flight with one-year.  I would check with your airline to find out their cancellation policy.  Most major airlines will do this.  I've had to cancel non-refundable flights on American, Alaska, United, and Southwest.  Every time I would get a credit.  Getting a credit would at least give you an option for that money instead of just losing it.

[Newleno]

2 minutes ago, rrebel94 said:

Non-refundable doesn't mean you lose your money.  This means they won't give you money back for the unused flight.  Depending on the airline, they will issue you a credit for the amount of the cancelled flight.  This credit would be applied to a future flight with one-year.  I would check with your airline to find out their cancellation policy.  Most major airlines will do this.  I've had to cancel non-refundable flights on American, Alaska, United, and Southwest.  Every time I would get a credit.  Getting a credit would at least give you an option for that money instead of just losing it.

all that varies by airline and what type of ticket was purchased, hmm outside of SWA if you buy a non refundable ticket you get  nadda

[smplybcause]

24 minutes ago, rrebel94 said:

Non-refundable doesn't mean you lose your money.  This means they won't give you money back for the unused flight.  Depending on the airline, they will issue you a credit for the amount of the cancelled flight.  This credit would be applied to a future flight with one-year.  I would check with your airline to find out their cancellation policy.  Most major airlines will do this.  I've had to cancel non-refundable flights on American, Alaska, United, and Southwest.  Every time I would get a credit.  Getting a credit would at least give you an option for that money instead of just losing it.

 

The airlines recently (at least a year if not longer) have instituted a new bargain basement fare to compete with the likes of Spirit & Frontier. Most call it "Basic Economy" or something similar - but these fares are non-refundable and non-changeable. You either fly or your money flies without you - $0 credit. There are still fares that are non-refundable but are changeable, though they often have a $200+ change fee which would eat up all if not most of the fare between LA and Miami. 

[madre2]

We are sort of in the same situation although our final payment is not until June, and we have no airfare with NCL.  Before final payment, I was going to just cancel the second person in the cabin.  I knew I would have to pay double the fare, but I thought it would be the fare  that was originally booked. But the fare has gone up $700 per person for that category.  Will they charge me the 200% of the higher fare or the original fare I had if I travel alone?  

 

[Sauer-kraut]

Can you find someone to take your husbands place??  You can offer it as a free cruise to a relative and have a great time.  You will still be out of the money, but at least it would give someone a nice trip!  Just call Norwegian and do a passenger change, it shouldn't cost you anything if your husband was listed as passenger #2 on the booking.

[cruisinmeme]

2 hours ago, madre2 said:

We are sort of in the same situation although our final payment is not until June, and we have no airfare with NCL.  Before final payment, I was going to just cancel the second person in the cabin.  I knew I would have to pay double the fare, but I thought it would be the fare  that was originally booked. But the fare has gone up $700 per person for that category.  Will they charge me the 200% of the higher fare or the original fare I had if I travel alone?  

 

I still cant wrap my head around this. To me since it is paid for i could just go and loose his money. Nope they did the math and said it would cost another 1000.00 my daughter keeps doubting what i was told. Believe me i repeated how is that possible, we are paid in full.  

All i can say is before you pay your cruise off i would ask if you just cancelled the whole thing  and then booked you only what is the price. Also ask what it would cost to cancel him and charge you as solo.

our air fare is not thru NCL. Booked direct with airlines but we booked non refundable. Even is they gave us a credit we wouldn’t use it. Flying is the reason he is not going on this cruise. I have been on a plane once in 53 years.

good luck with your plans. Maybe my mess has helped open your eyes to what might be a problem for you.

[esm54687]

1 hour ago, cruisinmeme said:

I still cant wrap my head around this. To me since it is paid for i could just go and loose his money. Nope they did the math and said it would cost another 1000.00 my daughter keeps doubting what i was told. Believe me i repeated how is that possible, we are paid in full.  

All i can say is before you pay your cruise off i would ask if you just cancelled the whole thing  and then booked you only what is the price. Also ask what it would cost to cancel him and charge you as solo.

our air fare is not thru NCL. Booked direct with airlines but we booked non refundable. Even is they gave us a credit we wouldn’t use it. Flying is the reason he is not going on this cruise. I have been on a plane once in 53 years.

good luck with your plans. Maybe my mess has helped open your eyes to what might be a problem for you.

Simple..... call NCL and cancel.... pay the $1,000 and for the next 10 years in each anniversary card, birthday card, holiday card and out a copy of the extra charge receipt in the card and just tell him he spent his "gift allowance" by saying yes, allowing you to book it, and then canceling it"

 

My mother did that to me when I was 5 and backed out of hockey camp at the last minute..... your husband should live by HIS decision not you.. ☺ 

Edited May 18, 2019 by esm54687

[Sauer-kraut]

Just go by yourself and have him be a no show, you'll get the port charges back and that's all.

[NW Pacific]

Interested in how you do this, please let us know.   Sounds like cancelling costs more money, just show up at Ship solo, not sure if they could charge you anything extra at that point?    airline, I would not notify, if you don't want "credit" that would cost you to use, hope there isn't standby ad enjoy an empty seat next to you, does happen.  Enjoy your cruise, you sure do deserve it!

[electro]

Don't cancel your DH, if he changed his mind with about 2 weeks to go, maybe he'll change it again and decide to go?

[ollienbertsmum]

1 hour ago, electro said:

Don't cancel your DH, if he changed his mind with about 2 weeks to go, maybe he'll change it again and decide to go?

 

 

So you said that you would be saving on kennel costs.  Mark that against any potential extra cost for you being solo.  However I think I would just try  a no-show. 

 

As to why they charge more, I understand it to be that passengers generate income.  If numerous people sailed solo in a double or even triple/quad room, there would be so much less income from the passengers themselves, drinks, shops, casino, excursions,  speciality restaurants, photos (do people still buy them) etc.  The ship would be much less profitable for the line.    Even the staff would be upset because they would get less of the DSC.