Past Passenger Party

[jimbo5544]

1 minute ago, sanmarcosman said:

Invasion ? There wasn't even an invitation saying what day, time and location the party would take place! Stop chewing this bone. Carnival dropped it just as they knew they would. It's no disgrace, but let's not pretend it didn't happen the way it did. ( no ellipse ) 

Sorry...invitation I have received one in my room every single cruise.  what is better a tiny mention in the fun times or a card board invitation delivered to your room the day before.....It has the day the time the location, exactly what you mention.  I may have one to show you if you want.....

[sanmarcosman]

9 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

Sorry...invitation I have received one in my room every single cruise.  what is better a tiny mention in the fun times or a card board invitation delivered to your room the day before.....It has the day the time the location, exactly what you mention.  I may have one to show you if you want.....

We get our platinum party invitations just fine. On the 3 cruises we sailed where a Fun Farewell Party occurred not once were invitations sent to our cabin. What are you on about? The onus was on all passengers to go ask someone somewhere where the event would take place if we wanted to know before the actual day of the event. Carnival did not want a big turn out and they never got one as planned. It's really quite simple. 

Edited August 12, 2019 by sanmarcosman

[jimbo5544]

1 minute ago, sanmarcosman said:

We get our platinum party invitations just fine. On the 3 cruises we sailed where a Fun Farewell Party occurred not once were invitations to sent to our cabin. What are you on about? The onus was on all passengers to go ask someone somewhere where the event would take place if we wanted to know before the actual day of the event. Carnival did not want a big turn out and they never got one as planned. It's really quite simple. 

Not having one is yet a better plan....

[sanmarcosman]

3 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

Not having one is yet a better plan....

Where have I argued there should be a Fun Farewell Party or that there should have been one in the first place? No where. I agree, it was a waste of money, time and effort from the stockholder's view. I'm stating what happened and why it was never properly promoted only! You must need another cruise...... 🙂

Edited August 12, 2019 by sanmarcosman

[jimbo5544]

2 minutes ago, sanmarcosman said:

Where have I argued there should be a Fun Farewell Party or that there should have been one in the first place? No where. I agree, it was a waste of money, time and effort from the stockholder's view. I'm stating what happened and why it was never properly promoted only! You must need another cruise...... 🙂

LOL, we agree!

[sanmarcosman]

1 minute ago, jimbo5544 said:

LOL, we agree!

If you go back and read there was nothing to disagree about until you challenged Dallas on area 51 and conspiracy and THAT had to be taken to task albeit politely. We were there, we were witnesses and Carnival did not promote the event because they did not want it to be well received and that has been my only point on this thread. 

[jimbo5544]

25 minutes ago, sanmarcosman said:

If you go back and read there was nothing to disagree about until you challenged Dallas on area 51 and conspiracy and THAT had to be taken to task albeit politely. We were there, we were witnesses and Carnival did not promote the event because they did not want it to be well received and that has been my only point on this thread. 

Understand, we can move on

[sanmarcosman]

Just now, jimbo5544 said:

Understand, we can move on

Some groveling and an apology on your part would have sent me to the ER so this will do. 😁

[jimbo5544]

Just now, sanmarcosman said:

Some groveling and an apology on your part would have sent me to the ER so this will do. 😁

LOL, we would not want that... I was confusing the two....  somebody get the paddles🤐

[DGP1111]

21 hours ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

. . . . The Fun Farewell party was planned to be a failure so they could eventually cut it.  It was advertised in the Fun Times (actually Capers at the time, I believe) at the beginning of the cruise and the only other mention of it was a single line in the Fun Times activity schedule on the day of.  I had a close friend on the Cruise Director's staff at the time, and he confirmed they were not allowed to advertise the party beyond that.  The party wasn't heavily attended because it wasn't well publicized or people were busy packing on the last day, so Carnival cut it with the excuse it wasn't popular or well attended.

 

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15 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

Lol, you are funny..you are kidding right?  They made a change to a program so that they could eventually cut it?  Why in heavens name why would they do that?  I just love these conspiracy stories..... 

 

Jimbo, 

I've been really good for multiple years to not get in the weeds about why Carnival chooses to do what it does.  I have nothing to gain by it, and I still have respect (albeit diminished in some instances) for a lot of those decision makers, but . . .

 

100% of what DallasGuy said in that one paragraph is correct.  Can I prove that?  Yes!  Do I care to? No!  (Again, I have nothing to gain, and it's a past-tense situation).

 

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[sanmarcosman]

4 minutes ago, DGP1111 said:

 

 

 

Jimbo, 

I've been really good for multiple years to not get in the weeds about why Carnival chooses to do what it does.  I have nothing to gain by it, and I still have respect (albeit diminished in some instances) for a lot of those decision makers, but . . .

 

100% of what DallasGuy said in that one paragraph is correct.  Can I prove that?  Yes!  Do I care to? No!  (Again, I have nothing to gain, and it's a past-tense situation).

 

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Jim admitted last night that it was an apples and oranges discussion on his part and he fell on his sword. Not many here remember there ever was a Fun Farewell party. So thanks to you for weighing in and lending some cred to the topic albeit reluctantly and for good reason. 🙂

[Micahs Grandad]

On 8/11/2019 at 1:13 PM, lottiegreen56 said:

I’m about to be over 200 cruise days on Carnival at the end of the month and I don’t remember anything about a farewell party or lgbtq mixers with open bars.

When they took away free drinks at the capt party they set up the farewell party. It was announced the first day to be held like 5 pm the last day of the cruise, and than never again.

 

It was a very nice party but few people remembered about it and went and a year or so later Carnival discontinued it. IMHO it was set up to fail.

[jimbo5544]

2 hours ago, DGP1111 said:

 

 

 

Jimbo, 

I've been really good for multiple years to not get in the weeds about why Carnival chooses to do what it does.  I have nothing to gain by it, and I still have respect (albeit diminished in some instances) for a lot of those decision makers, but . . .

 

100% of what DallasGuy said in that one paragraph is correct.  Can I prove that?  Yes!  Do I care to? No!  (Again, I have nothing to gain, and it's a past-tense situation).

 

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But I have missed the interaction.  I was wrong and misunderstood and thought we were talking about another party....my bad.  That said, do not give up on me, we can discuss many other topics.

[sanmarcosman]

1 hour ago, Micahs Grandad said:

When they took away free drinks at the capt party they set up the farewell party. It was announced the first day to be held like 5 pm the last day of the cruise, and than never again.

 

It was a very nice party but few people remembered about it and went and a year or so later Carnival discontinued it. IMHO it was set up to fail.

Stu - Take a moment to read the whole thread, it's interesting and I posted the announcements from the Fun Times. 🙂

[lottiegreen56]

23 hours ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

 

 

There was no scheduled LGBT mixer (actually it would probably have been called Friends of Dorothy at the time) with open bar.  Poster was saying he/she organized his/her own LGBT mixer to coincide with the free drinks at the Fun Farewell party.

 

That makes sense, my BIL and brother are both "friends of dorothy" (I like this term lol) so we've been to plenty of the mixers tagging along.

[lottiegreen56]

18 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

All cruise ships are cutting costs...the operative word is all, we can like it or not or blame Carnival or not.  We can agree that free drinks for the whole ship is not moving back.  As a stock holder, I agree with that, as someone who has sailed almost 40 cruises on Carnival, it feels right as well.  You may disagree, but we can agree it will not happen again.  The recognition should be for their most loyal clients, not anyone who has sailed with them before......

 

We disagree on the party but curious your thoughts on the john heald gifts people ask for? I'd rather see that cut and the party staying, all things being equal

[jimbo5544]

1 minute ago, lottiegreen56 said:

 

We disagree on the party but curious your thoughts on the john heald gifts people ask for? I'd rather see that cut and the party staying, all things being equal

To be honest, had not given it much thought, I cringe at times when I read some.  That said, it is apples and oranges, as far as I can see no connection between the two and what he usually hands out is inconsequential.  Part of his job is to be the face of the company and some of that comes with the job. 

[lottiegreen56]

22 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

To be honest, had not given it much thought, I cringe at times when I read some.  That said, it is apples and oranges, as far as I can see no connection between the two and what he usually hands out is inconsequential.  Part of his job is to be the face of the company and some of that comes with the job. 

 

I just figured the impact on the bottom line of the party for all past guest - or even all guests - would be similar to what they spend on JH gifts. That may sound like a stretch at first glance but the parties never would have 100% attendance, not even close. Further, the drinks aren't super expensive. They may also lead to people making a trip to the bar, gift shop or casino after if the buzz hits them just so. 

 

I'm kind of thinking out loud here. You know I enjoy hearing your perspective even when we disagree. It seems like fairness and bottom line are the two aspects about the parties that are your hangup, I just don't see the difference between the party and the JH gifts. 

[Micahs Grandad]

1 hour ago, sanmarcosman said:

Stu - Take a moment to read the whole thread, it's interesting and I posted the announcements from the Fun Times. 🙂

Guess I should have read the entire thread before posting but do stand behind what I posted.

[Micahs Grandad]

1 hour ago, lottiegreen56 said:

 

We disagree on the party but curious your thoughts on the john heald gifts people ask for? I'd rather see that cut and the party staying, all things being equal

JH encourages people to ask for free stuff. I will admit to taking part in this every few cruises and do not feel bad at all for asking.

[sanmarcosman]

4 minutes ago, Micahs Grandad said:

Guess I should have read the entire thread before posting but do stand behind what I posted.

That's not why I said that , I could tell you may have missed the images from the Fun Times that were posted though. 

Edited August 12, 2019 by sanmarcosman

[lottiegreen56]

6 minutes ago, Micahs Grandad said:

JH encourages people to ask for free stuff. I will admit to taking part in this every few cruises and do not feel bad at all for asking.

 

My point is, if they got rid of that, they'd be able to do an open bar  party for past guests or every one on the last day for a half hour to an hour

[Port of Tampa]

I say keep the party for platinum and diamonds but stop diluting our perks by selling faster to the fun...you should have to earn priority boarding and debarkation not be able to buy it as a blue card holder.

[PhillyFan33579]

17 minutes ago, Port of Tampa said:

I say keep the party for platinum and diamonds but stop diluting our perks by selling faster to the fun...you should have to earn priority boarding and debarkation not be able to buy it as a blue card holder.

 

I don’t see that ever happening. From a business perspective FTTF is a great program that generates revenue with minimal cost to run the program. There is no question in my mind Carnival’s main focus is on the blue and red cruiser, who tend to spend significantly more money than more experienced cruises. Providing perks for loyal passengers is not high on their priority list. I don’t think Carnival would worry one bit if a significant number  of Platinums and Diamonds moved on to a different cruise line and never cruised on Carnival again. 

[jimbo5544]

1 hour ago, Port of Tampa said:

I say keep the party for platinum and diamonds but stop diluting our perks by selling faster to the fun...you should have to earn priority boarding and debarkation not be able to buy it as a blue card holder.

There is a greater chance of FTTF pay option staying and it going away as a perk.......