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We are well aware that one cannot bring on board a travel iron, but what about a travel steamer?  In addition, what about a multi-plug for a computer which has in it a surge protector.  Some lines permit them, some don't.  If Disney decides that you are bringing aboard an unapproved item, will they store it for you, or destroy it.

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No cruise line knowingly allows a surge protector onboard.  And no line destroys passenger belongings that are prohibited, with the exception of opened liquor bottles.  Everything is returned at the end of the cruise, but you have to make the effort to reclaim it.

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1 hour ago, casinovisitor said:

I've always brought a surge protector and have never had an issue

And this is no indicator that you could not have had an issue in the past, or that you can have one in the future.  Surge protectors are not designed for the type of grounding that a ship uses, and this can lead to the surge protector being subjected to "reverse voltage", which the semiconductors in the surge protector are not designed to handle, and which can cause the semiconductors to fail in "thermal runaway" and catch the surge protector on fire.  A perfectly good, 100% properly operating surge protector, straight out of the box, can fail and catch fire, due to a ground fault hundreds of feet away from your cabin, and completely out of your control, such as a light on deck filling with water.  Think of all the expensive electronics that a cruise ship has:  the navigation equipment, the communication equipment, the POS registers at every bar and shop, and the automation equipment that is in the engine room and that keeps the lights on and the propellers turning.  Now know that absolutely none of this hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of electronics has surge protection.  Why?  Because the types of voltage surges that are common on land (lightning strikes or blown power transformers) can happen on a ship.  I have been on several ships directly struck by lightning, and none of the electronics, even my personal laptop, were affected in any way.  

 

Here is a link to a USCG Safety Notice regarding the use of surge protectors on ships:

 

https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/TVNCOE/Documents/SafetyAlerts/SurgeProtectiveDevices.pdf?ver=2017-08-11-142750-690

 

and this is why no cruise line allows them.  Do they get by security?  Sure.  Do the cabin stewards ignore them?  Sure, they don't want to jeopardize their pay (tips) by pissing off the passengers, and most couldn't recognize a surge protector if it bit them.

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With the new usb devices you no longer need the extra outlets.  I have a device that requires one outlet and takes 6 USB cords.  Problem solved

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1 hour ago, gometros said:

I got this for my cruise. 

Cruise Power Strip with USB Outlets - Non Surge Protection & Ship Approved | Travel Accessories and Must Haves by Cruise On

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BHVKPC3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Check that device very carefully before using on a ship.  The photo in the Amazon link you gave, shows the back of the unit, and it has "VPR=800 L-N", which is "voltage protection rating", and a measure of how good a surge protector it is.  About two years ago, this was discussed on these boards, and "Cruise On" said the advertising photo would be changed (it obviously hasn't), but recently a member said he bought one and it did not have the line about VPR on the back, so since "Cruise On" doesn't make this, but buys it labeled from NTON (who make this unit both with or without surge protection), they may now be actually selling non-surge protected devices.  Check carefully.

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1 hour ago, chengkp75 said:

Check that device very carefully before using on a ship.  The photo in the Amazon link you gave, shows the back of the unit, and it has "VPR=800 L-N", which is "voltage protection rating", and a measure of how good a surge protector it is.  About two years ago, this was discussed on these boards, and "Cruise On" said the advertising photo would be changed (it obviously hasn't), but recently a member said he bought one and it did not have the line about VPR on the back, so since "Cruise On" doesn't make this, but buys it labeled from NTON (who make this unit both with or without surge protection), they may now be actually selling non-surge protected devices.  Check carefully.

 

Thanks for that. I'll check it tonight. What should it say on the back to be safe?

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4 hours ago, gometros said:

 

Thanks for that. I'll check it tonight. What should it say on the back to be safe?

As long as there is no mention of VPR or joules of protection, it should be fine.

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On 9/12/2019 at 4:48 PM, casinovisitor said:

I've always brought a surge protector and have never had an issue

That may be.  But it's not  allowed.  From the DCL website regarding what's allowed or not:

the following items are restricted for safety reasons and should not be brought on board.

 

    • Electric irons and Steamers (all ships offer self-service laundry facilities equipped with irons and ironing boards)
    • Extension cords, power strips and surge protectors 

https://disneycruise.disney.go.com/faq/prohibited-items/list/

 

Don't be surprised if such items are removed from your luggage before being delivered to your room.

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Just got back from our Disney Cruise.  They did not “confiscate” our steamer, but they did take a small Swiss Army Knife that we have taken in the past to cut labels on clothing and luggage. 

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On 9/22/2019 at 7:23 AM, stevenr597 said:

Just got back from our Disney Cruise.  They did not “confiscate” our steamer, but they did take a small Swiss Army Knife that we have taken in the past to cut labels on clothing and luggage. 

Maybe consider scissors.

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