ilikeanswers Posted September 12, 2019 #1 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) I have no preference for mainstream or not. I just want to know what all the options are. Edited September 12, 2019 by ilikeanswers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GastroGnome Posted September 15, 2019 #2 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Very few - if any - of the larger ocean going lines are able to use local ingredients. The ships are just too large and the supply chains too unsure. You might be able to find a smaller line like Paul Gaugin who are able to source local ingredients. But even then I suspect it would be minimal. Otherwise you will find river cruises generally have local ingredients and will at least nod in the direction of local cuisine. I've done Viking through Europe several times - I wouldn't call the cuisine local as such, but it was not entirely international. And Hebridean Princess have a stunning reputation food wise. Alternatively some lines do local food experience type tours - I know Celebrity does. So you can go and do a local food tour even if you do have to get back to American / international food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted September 16, 2019 Author #3 Share Posted September 16, 2019 19 hours ago, GastroGnome said: Very few - if any - of the larger ocean going lines are able to use local ingredients. The ships are just too large and the supply chains too unsure. You might be able to find a smaller line like Paul Gaugin who are able to source local ingredients. But even then I suspect it would be minimal. Otherwise you will find river cruises generally have local ingredients and will at least nod in the direction of local cuisine. I've done Viking through Europe several times - I wouldn't call the cuisine local as such, but it was not entirely international. And Hebridean Princess have a stunning reputation food wise. Alternatively some lines do local food experience type tours - I know Celebrity does. So you can go and do a local food tour even if you do have to get back to American / international food. I guess I never expected them to use local ingredients but I thought more cruises would make dishes associated with the regions they were travelling around. I was reading the thread about Indian curries served on cruises and I was thinking well for a Caribbean cruise a lot of the local food uses the same spices as Indian so if they have the ingredients it shouldn't be so hard to whip up a Caribbean dish🤔. It is interesting there are no foodie cruises. I would have thought there would be a market for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GastroGnome Posted September 16, 2019 #4 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Too subjective I suspect. One person's idea of a well prepared meal does not match another's. Once you have an international clientele you also have an international range of views about how something should be prepared. Your closest chance will be river cruising. I've only ever done that in Europe but there is usually a locally inspired dish on the menus. If you want an ocean going ship Celebrity have a partnership with a couple of chefs and do chef's tour excursions on suitable itineraries. I've never done one - I am (to me) far too much a foodie to want a sterilized version or the opportunity to make my own cheese. I head for local markets, eat at street food stalls etc. But everyone approaches life - and food - in different ways. It might suit you. If you post on the Celebrity Forum someone will be able to give an opinion. I also wonder about the very small very exclusive lines - you could look at their fora and see if anyone has posted menus. The Indian food on the buffet in most cruise lines is very good - but that tends to reflect the ethnicity of the brigade rather than the itinerary of the ship! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted September 16, 2019 Author #5 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Thanks for the insights, looks like what I was looking for probably doesn't really exist. My first cruise was pretty good at providing a taste of local food (and not a sterilized version either) so I was hoping there were other lines that did something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted September 19, 2019 #6 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Everyone wants local cuisine on a cruise. Very few get it. The US Public Health Service (USPH) claims jurisdiction over just about every cruise ship in the world. They do not approve of protein items purchased locally. Many North American passengers have a variety of food allergies / phobias / problems. Local spices, sauces, condiments are rarely labeled in English - if at all - and pose a health threat to all those who have food issues. In many countries, authentic local food is not very appealing to North Americans. They prefer the "Americanized" version. On every ship I have managed over the past 38 years, everyone wanted local food - until they tasted it onboard. The common complaints were: 1) It tasted better on shore; 2) It was far better at the restaurant in our home town in Florida / North Carolina / Montana. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacruise804 Posted September 24, 2019 #7 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 5:24 AM, ilikeanswers said: Thanks for the insights, looks like what I was looking for probably doesn't really exist. My first cruise was pretty good at providing a taste of local food (and not a sterilized version either) so I was hoping there were other lines that did something similar. Carnival offers a "Port of Call" menu most evenings that highlights a drink, appetizer, and entree from a region. Most of these though I think are somewhat "sterilized" versions to use your phrase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted September 29, 2019 #8 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Most cruise lines stock the larder prior to sailing anywhere, so little, if any is "local". Some of the very luxury lines may source ingredients in ports, but that's not common. If you're looking for local meals, you may want to plan meals ashore in your desired ports. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted September 29, 2019 Author #9 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 hours ago, cb at sea said: Most cruise lines stock the larder prior to sailing anywhere, so little, if any is "local". Some of the very luxury lines may source ingredients in ports, but that's not common. If you're looking for local meals, you may want to plan meals ashore in your desired ports. Just to be clear I was really asking if there were cruise lines that served local dishes. I understand that it is logistically difficult to source local ingredients but for most dishes the ingredients can be found anywhere, like my Caribbean example things like chilli, rice, chickpeas, cumin, chicken they are ingredients easily sourced in America. I'm ok with ingredients not being locally sourced my question was more to enquire if there were any cruise lines that maybe themed their food to the regions they travel in and perhaps showcased local recipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacruise804 Posted September 30, 2019 #10 Share Posted September 30, 2019 In addition to the "Port of Call" menu on Carnival, you can also sometimes get roasted pigeon peas with seasoning or dried plantain chips in the Red Frog Pub as complimentary pub snacks. I'm not sure about pigeon peas being local (they were tasty though 🙂 ) but plantains are definitely a staple in some Caribbean/Atlantic Island cultures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandchick Posted October 13, 2019 #11 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I would love to find a cruise line that did this as well. I think the excuses of not being able to buy the local produce and other passengers might not like it to be silly. First of all, like the previous poster stated, these items can be purchased in the US or Europe (as well as other areas) without issue- the cruise line knows which ports they will hit ahead of time so would have a menu planned ahead. Second, nobody is suggesting that all the dishes be in the local ethnic style, but a couple of dishes per night in the main dining areas would be nice. It seems to me when they do actually try to make ethnic food that it is sterilized to the point that it no longer tastes right and that is why people don't like it, and if in general some people don't like ethnic food then they can order the regular dishes on the menu. It is nice that Carnival seems to have some local dishes, however now that my child is grown I will not go back to a Carnival cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacruise804 Posted October 14, 2019 #12 Share Posted October 14, 2019 We are planning a Southern Caribbean cruise next year on Viking Ocean. They have some traditional Nordic dishes in addition to "American" fare. They also list an option where you can go shopping at local markets with a chef and prepare the food onboard (combination excursion and specialty dining experience). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted October 27, 2019 #13 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I just discovered this board! Why not go ashore and have local food for lunch? That's what we'll be doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted October 28, 2019 Author #14 Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 hours ago, clo said: I just discovered this board! Why not go ashore and have local food for lunch? That's what we'll be doing. It is a little sad that is that is the only option if you want to cruise and enjoy local cuisines. I was asking the question in the hope there was a cruise line where you could have the option to eat local food for other meals like breakfast and dinner. I did assume that it was probably unlikely but I thought I would put the question out there in case there was something I had not heard about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted October 28, 2019 #15 Share Posted October 28, 2019 10 hours ago, ilikeanswers said: It is a little sad that is that is the only option if you want to cruise and enjoy local cuisines. I was asking the question in the hope there was a cruise line where you could have the option to eat local food for other meals like breakfast and dinner. I did assume that it was probably unlikely but I thought I would put the question out there in case there was something I had not heard about. From what I see/read here and elsewhere I find the general population is almost completely unadventuresome about food. We live in Reno now where the food is improving constantly these days. We no longer EVER have to eat at chain restaurants but their parking lots are packed. I think cruise lines don't do it because it wouldn't be popular. IMneverHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted October 30, 2019 Author #16 Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 3:08 AM, clo said: From what I see/read here and elsewhere I find the general population is almost completely unadventuresome about food. You're right it is probably all about the customer base. I noticed there was a lot of food focused land tours so I was thinking maybe something similar might exist in cruises but I have noticed most cruisers like a taste of home and it wouldn't do cruise lines any favours if they didn't satisfy their customers😉. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsymimi Posted December 10, 2019 #17 Share Posted December 10, 2019 This is why I like to eat in a restaurant in the ports- preferably not one that caters to the cruise ship passengers. We've had good luck asking a local where he would take his wife for dinner. However, one of my traveling companions doesn't like doing that because the food on the ship is paid for. We're going to be dealing with this on the next cruise, when we're in a couple of ports until 10-11 at night. I have no problem going places by myself in the ports, but I hope to convince at least one person to go with me to eat in the ports. I don't know why this would be considered a "bad" option. Local food prepared by people who are experts on the local cuisine seems like a great option to me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted August 13, 2021 #18 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Just discovered this thread. Prior to cost cutting, HAL did an excellent job of providing local specialties on the MDR menu. One example: Filet of Kangaroo when the Volendam was sailing in Australian waters. Most recently, there will be region-themed entrees, appetizers, or desserts offered. I consider a Filet of Kangaroo to be "exotic". What the current items offered aren't so exotic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGTNORMANDIE Posted August 14, 2021 #19 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, rkacruiser said: Just discovered this thread. Prior to cost cutting, HAL did an excellent job of providing local specialties on the MDR menu. One example: Filet of Kangaroo when the Volendam was sailing in Australian waters. Most recently, there will be region-themed entrees, appetizers, or desserts offered. I consider a Filet of Kangaroo to be "exotic". What the current items offered aren't so exotic. Thanks for resurrecting this thread RK. I was beginning to think that we had run out of foodie things to talk about…lol. BTW…Oceania does an excellent job at sourcing local foods. The top river cruise companies are also doing a good job with local markets. They even have a chef’s tour of local markets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted August 16, 2021 #20 Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 9:41 PM, CGTNORMANDIE said: I was beginning to think that we had run out of foodie things to talk about…lol. What we need is more participation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGTNORMANDIE Posted August 16, 2021 #21 Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 hours ago, rkacruiser said: What we need is more participation! I only wish there were more. I guess we will have to keep the home lights burning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted August 17, 2021 #22 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I'm hoping we do Silverseas to Galapagos. Supposed to be a lot of local food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGTNORMANDIE Posted August 17, 2021 #23 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, clo said: I'm hoping we do Silverseas to Galapagos. Supposed to be a lot of local food. Talk to Lois. She appears here and is a Silversea devotee’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted September 22, 2021 #24 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Mass market lines? None! I think Silverseas has recently been making an effort to feature some local foods so you might want to ask about this on their Blog (and Lois would certainly be an expert). We have cruised on 16 lines over many years and the only one that ever made a big time effort to use local products was Regency Lines (which went bankrupt for years). Many years ago when we were docked in Nice, France on the Regent Spirit we actually walked to a local outdoor market with the Executive Chef and Hotel Manager and watched the chef buy lots of fresh seafood along with fresh vegetables. But that was a small ship with a very skilled chef who did not need to confine himself to corporate recipes. Seabourn has also been known to buy some local seafood. We had some great salmon when cruising with them in Alaska. Hank 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lois R Posted September 22, 2021 #25 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Hello friends😀.......yes, I have been sailing SS for the past 5 years. Going again in 2 weeks😀 The newest Silversea ships offer a new concept in the restaurant arena.......it is called SALT.....stands for SEA AND LAND TASTE.........the restaurant is called Salt Kitchen and yes, the menu is geared towards whatever the itinerary might be and yes, the Chef's go in town for local stuff..........It was a Greek Menu when I sailed and I LOVED it........and not just your typical Greek food........the Chef was very creative. I ate there 3 times in 10 nights. They also have the Salt Bar with a wonderful funky, eclectic drink menu. And the Salt Lab......I know some folks who love it and others who just don't enjoy cooking so they can be critical. But if you don't like to cook, you don't take the class. I LOVED It too..........there are 9 stations and the ingredients have already been prepped for you.......the Chef leads the class........we made multiple Greek dishes........ Personally, I think it is a wonderful concept. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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