suzyed Posted October 13, 2019 #201 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 8:41 PM, vampiress said: nothing about your supposed behavior is a loyal customer p22. i'm going to guess this person and the other one complaining about the coffee cards hardcore are big and bluster on the internet and nothing in real life. internet tough guys. and if they are this obnoxious in life, i'm sure their vacations are always ruined because of their actions which they blame on everyone but themselves. rude and selfish. wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrongwaywatson Posted October 13, 2019 #202 Share Posted October 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, voljeep said: kept one punch on a coffee card and got 'free fresh brewed coffee' on the 'next' cruise(s) ... I have bought coffee cards for years and it never worked like that. The first cruise I had unlimited fresh brewed and then on subsequent cruises I got fresh brewed, but they punched my card. Each drink was a punch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted October 13, 2019 #203 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, suzyed said: Except it didn't work that way on subsequent cruises. If you got "fresh brewed coffee" and used the card from the last cruise, they took a punch for it....it wasn't free. The rare occasion where they didn't have the ship and the voyage written on the back I guess you could have used that one punch for the free coffee. correct after the new policy was introduced ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyed Posted October 13, 2019 #204 Share Posted October 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, voljeep said: correct after the new policy was introduced ... Which was when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted October 13, 2019 #205 Share Posted October 13, 2019 approximately two years ago .. with a 'deadline' of 8/31/19 to use up the old cards ... and yes, during that period, a punch was required to get a brewed or specialty coffee ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted October 13, 2019 #206 Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, suzyed said: Which was when? 🤪🤪🤪 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrongwaywatson Posted October 13, 2019 #207 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, voljeep said: approximately two years ago .. with a 'deadline' of 8/31/19 to use up the old cards ... and yes, during that period, a punch was required to get a brewed or specialty coffee ... I've been buying coffee cards since they became available. I have NEVER used a punch for a foo-foo coffee, I don't like them. I only like the brewed coffee. They always punched my card on the following cruise. That wasn't the new policy, it was always the policy. It may not have been followed consistently, but that was the policy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott4020 Posted October 13, 2019 #208 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Cracks me up, people getting all turned up about a few punches on a thirty dollar card. Crazy. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltd Posted October 13, 2019 #209 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just now, voljeep said: correct after the new policy was introduced ... I think you are right. I kind of remember when the very first coffee cards came out it was reported on CC that members use to keep the card with only one punch left so they could get free brewed coffee on future cruises. Then Princess got smart and came out with new cards where the rules changed so the free coffee was only available on the cruise when you purchased the card. At least that's what I remember. Didn't the first cards look like playing cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted October 13, 2019 #210 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, suzyed said: Really? How did they get free coffee? 1 hour ago, voljeep said: kept one punch on a coffee card and got 'free fresh brewed coffee' on the 'next' cruise(s) ... And posted here on CC bragging about getting fresh brewed coffee from a card that they had been holding for years. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted October 13, 2019 #211 Share Posted October 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, scott4020 said: Cracks me up, people getting all turned up about a few punches on a thirty dollar card. Crazy. For sure. 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierlesscruisers Posted October 13, 2019 #212 Share Posted October 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, Thrak said: And posted here on CC bragging about getting fresh brewed coffee from a card that they had been holding for years. Which was probably one of the main reasons for the change in policy! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyed Posted October 14, 2019 #213 Share Posted October 14, 2019 6 hours ago, voljeep said: approximately two years ago .. with a 'deadline' of 8/31/19 to use up the old cards ... and yes, during that period, a punch was required to get a brewed or specialty coffee ... It's been the case for many years...whatever...it's all over now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted October 14, 2019 #214 Share Posted October 14, 2019 WHY is this thread still going? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted October 14, 2019 #215 Share Posted October 14, 2019 11 hours ago, voljeep said: kept one punch on a coffee card and got 'free fresh brewed coffee' on the 'next' cruise(s) ... That went away about 5 years ago when they changed the cards from being jacks, queens or kings. The new cards were supposed to have the ship's name and sail date on them. The free coffee was good for that cruise only, but the punches were good for a later cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted October 14, 2019 #216 Share Posted October 14, 2019 15 hours ago, Daniel A said: It's called rationalization. If it is a matter of principle, does a principled person trick another into making something they will knowingly try to pay with something that is worthless? Did you ever hold on to a restaurant gift certificate too long? Would you order dinner at a restaurant and then produce an expired gift certificate as payment after you got the meal? In my book, (and I have done this) I would present the expired certificate before ordering in order to find out if they will honor it. If the restaurant said "no" then I have a decision to make: stay & pay or leave. Just my two cents. You are referring to a certificate that has an expiration date on it. Of course it is is not useful after that date has passed. But the coffee cards sold by Princess had no expiraction date on them until they started putting them on the cards last year. I would expect a restaurant gift certificate to be valid if it had no expiration date on it no matter how long I would have had it. Even Disneyland will honor unused tickets from when they first opened up decades sgo.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted October 14, 2019 #217 Share Posted October 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Thrak said: And posted here on CC bragging about getting fresh brewed coffee from a card that they had been holding for years. Some even had them laminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted October 14, 2019 #218 Share Posted October 14, 2019 The second generation coffee cards (New Grounds) were marked - or supposed to be marked - with the ship and voyage. In that way, usage on subsequent cruises meant punches for every beverage (no more free regular coffee). That was in place for YEARS - not just the last two. The third generation had an expiry date printed on them as Princess was preparing to phase them out. I don't even recall if we had the first generation card (with playing card symbols??) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted October 14, 2019 #219 Share Posted October 14, 2019 5 hours ago, caribill said: You are referring to a certificate that has an expiration date on it. Of course it is is not useful after that date has passed. I think it was unfortunate that Princess changed the terms of the coffee cards too but they did and they had every legal right to do so. All coffee cards are now expired. That said, I think you missed the point of my post. I was questioning the ethics of somebody ordering a coffee and then refusing the coffee when they tried to pay for it with an expired card KNOWING the card has expired. Then wrapping himself in the flag of principle. This is the very definition of a charlatan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltd Posted October 14, 2019 #220 Share Posted October 14, 2019 5 hours ago, caribill said: You are referring to a certificate that has an expiration date on it. Of course it is is not useful after that date has passed. But the coffee cards sold by Princess had no expiraction date on them until they started putting them on the cards last year. I would expect a restaurant gift certificate to be valid if it had no expiration date on it no matter how long I would have had it. Even Disneyland will honor unused tickets from when they first opened up decades sgo.. The Disney difference is they never came out and officially stated that all unused Disney tickets regardless of what you were holding was going to be null and void after a certain date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted October 14, 2019 #221 Share Posted October 14, 2019 10 hours ago, caribill said: You are referring to a certificate that has an expiration date on it. Of course it is is not useful after that date has passed. But the coffee cards sold by Princess had no expiraction date on them until they started putting them on the cards last year. I would expect a restaurant gift certificate to be valid if it had no expiration date on it no matter how long I would have had it. Even Disneyland will honor unused tickets from when they first opened up decades sgo.. Sort of. Time was it was equal - main entrance purchased in the past = main entrance to park. Now it's a certain value, given as a discount on a new ticket purchase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted October 14, 2019 #222 Share Posted October 14, 2019 13 hours ago, caribill said: That went away about 5 years ago when they changed the cards from being jacks, queens or kings. The new cards were supposed to have the ship's name and sail date on them. The free coffee was good for that cruise only, but the punches were good for a later cruise. None of my cards ever had a voyage number, date, ship name, or any other info on them. I know they were "supposed" to write that stuff on the cards but the never did on any of mine. I always just got the fresh brewed on the initial cruise and only used the punches on subsequent cruises. Never asked for the fresh brewed as I knew how it was supposed to work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseVA Posted October 14, 2019 #223 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/13/2019 at 6:15 PM, Colo Cruiser said: For sure. 🤪 I can't believe this post still has legs 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compozer Posted October 14, 2019 #224 Share Posted October 14, 2019 agree, somebody please put it out of it's misery. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted October 15, 2019 #225 Share Posted October 15, 2019 47 minutes ago, compozer said: agree, somebody please put it out of it's misery. No ... don't put it to rest just yet! I disembarked from the Grand just yesterday and can't say this is a company wide policy but this was my most recent experience. I took an an expired coffee card onboard with me at the beginning of the month and asked what their policy was on using old (and expired) coffee cards onboard. I also explained that if they had to say it was no longer accepted, they would get zero arguments from me. While I do believe all ships should only provide brewed coffee and not even try to pass off that syrup concentrate off as coffee, I never ever used my coffee card for brewed coffee on subsequent sailings....only for cappuccinos that required a punch. Anyway, back to my very recent experience on the Grand Princess .... the staff at the New Grounds coffee shop explained that I could surrender my old card and use the leftover punches throughout the cruise for whichever coffee or tea drink I chose (regular or specialty coffees or teas). They kept the cards and put a sticker on it with my name, room and folio number. When I wanted a coffee drink, they would look through their little cup full of cards and punch it like before but it was to remain in their possession and tossed at the end of the cruise. It was a more than equitable solution, even though it was quite unexpected that they would honor these long after the stated expiration date. We used our last punch yesterday morning before disembarking and we were even able to buy a coffee for one of the guest services staff that was so very good to us. As stated, I am not sure if this is available on all Princess ships or how long they will continue this policy but it sure was a nice surprise for our sailing. And again, I wasn't prepared to argue with anyone if this wasn't the case but they seemed happy to report that Princess reconsidered (I am sure after numerous complaints). From what I could see, there were probably about 20 cards collected in that cup that held the old coffee cards during our recent sailing. So, don't throw those old cards away just yet ... it's worth a try. Please just don't argue your point if the staff is no longer allowed to honor them. They are not the ones that make the policies. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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