Celebrity Press Release (9/20/19) New Ad Campaign: 'Wonder Awaits"

[Oceangoer2]

2 minutes ago, sippican said:

Because the song gets people talking about it over, and over, and over .............   (even the whiners who are complaining about the duplication are playing right into their hands, lol! )

  Smart marketing!

 

It's only 'smart marketing' for the folks who support using an established 'drug song' to push their product and who might be reliving their youth.  Not smart trying to reach new cruisers who are offended by a company presenting a marketing ploy which COULD influence their children in an already markedly drug overloaded society.  And if those same people are turning the channel as soon as the melody starts and are annoyed with the 'repetition' (duplication?), there's no successful way to bring them in with a dream sequence of what Celebrity offers.  JMHO.

[TeeRick]

5 minutes ago, oceangoer2 said:

It's only 'smart marketing' for the folks who support using an established 'drug song' to push their product and who might be reliving their youth.  Not smart trying to reach new cruisers who are offended by a company presenting a marketing ploy which COULD influence their children in an already markedly drug overloaded society.  And if those same people are turning the channel as soon as the melody starts and are annoyed with the 'repetition' (duplication?), there's no successful way to bring them in with a dream sequence of what Celebrity offers.  JMHO.

So apparently you will not cruise Celebrity because of this ad?  Is that what you are saying?

[sippican]

15 minutes ago, oceangoer2 said:

It's only 'smart marketing' for the folks who support using an established 'drug song' to push their product and who might be reliving their youth.  Not smart trying to reach new cruisers who are offended by a company presenting a marketing ploy which COULD influence their children in an already markedly drug overloaded society.  And if those same people are turning the channel as soon as the melody starts and are annoyed with the 'repetition' (duplication?), there's no successful way to bring them in with a dream sequence of what Celebrity offers.  JMHO.

 

Most of the youinger generation has no idea that it is a drug-related song. I am very doubtful that the song in an ad is going to influence cruisers' children into the drug culture. Did you ever read your children Alice in Wonderland?

As someone who grew up with "Go Ask Alice" I was not encouraged to take drugs as a result of the song. The song brings back very pleasurable memories. I was very successful and did not drift through my life in a drug-induced state. Rather than turn the channel, I turn it up.

Surely, you are not their target audience. 

Edited February 26, 2020 by sippican

[Floater4life]

Maybe because it's a cool song?

[Dunmore2]

I read cruise critic in the 6 months prior to a cruise, so I’m not always looking at these boards. I’d never seen anything about this song, not would I ever have a reason to search for it here, so I’m glad the op brought it up. I love the song, always have, and love the book Go Ask Alice. It is surprising that Celebrity chose it for a theme song. Their target market is obviously for those waaaay younger who don’t associate the song with anything, except Alice in Wonderland perhaps.

[davekathy]

A few years ago RCs tag song was "Lust for Life" by Iggy Pop. Catchy upbeat song and then some starting whining about that song once they understood the meaning. 🙄 This ad will also go away with time like all of them do. 

[sippican]

8 minutes ago, Dunmore2 said:

 Their target market is obviously for those waaaay younger who don’t associate the song with anything, except Alice in Wonderland perhaps.

 

And how many associate the book Alice in Wonderland with drugs (magic mushrooms and hookah smoking cats)?

[Oceangoer2]

28 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

So apparently you will not cruise Celebrity because of this ad?  Is that what you are saying?

Really don't want to keep this going...but...we're E+ and loyal to X...like some have said, a song won't influence us one way or another, but given the epidemic drug culture prevalent in the US, one might think more carefully before promoting a drug culture reference in their marketing...and...young people are a much more in tune with lyrics (given rap etc) than you're giving them credit for.  There are SOME young people who wouldn't necessarily even watch TV, never mind a commercial, but might overhear this, pay attention to the words, and would think this an endorsement of a hip, rad, woke...pick a word depending on generation, LOL....lifestyle.  Again JMHO.

[markeb]

1 minute ago, sippican said:

 

And how many associate the book Alice in Wonderland with drugs (magic mushrooms and hookah smoking cats)?

 

Probably not many. It was an anthropomorphic fantasy so you could ignore some of that.

 

Most people today probably don't realize how common exotic imported substances, not always ports and sherries, were in Victorian England. Sherlock Holmes was a cocaine addict in the books, although that's 30 years after Alice in Wonderland. 

[markeb]

12 minutes ago, davekathy said:

A few years ago RCs tag song was "Lust for Life" by Iggy Pop. Catchy upbeat song and then some starting whining about that song once they understood the meaning. 🙄 This ad will also go away with time like all of them do. 

 

I'm waiting on "Bulls on Parade"...

[C-Dragons]

1 hour ago, Floater4life said:

Maybe because it's a cool song?

Yes. 😊

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. 😎

Edited February 26, 2020 by C-Dragons

[Roger88]

50 minutes ago, markeb said:

 

I'm waiting on "Bulls on Parade"...

just found it on the internet

Lust for life - wanting to experience all of the unconventional pleasures of life, i.e. both heterosexual and homesexual acts, drugs, crime etc.
 

[riredsox]

1 hour ago, sippican said:

 

And how many associate the book Alice in Wonderland with drugs (magic mushrooms and hookah smoking cats)?

It was a hookah smoking caterpillar!  I played that part in our high school play!  Looong time ago.

[sippican]

9 minutes ago, riredsox said:

It was a hookah smoking caterpillar!  I played that part in our high school play!  Looong time ago.

 

Of course - I knew that!  I was enraptured with the Cheshire Cat  - who surely must have been high on something to be smiling so broadly, lol! 

(How progressive of your high school to allow the presenation of such a scandalous tale!)

 

[riredsox]

17 minutes ago, sippican said:

 

Of course - I knew that!  I was enraptured with the Cheshire Cat  - who surely must have been high on something to be smiling so broadly, lol! 

(How progressive of your high school to allow the presenation of such a scandalous tale!)

 

Ha ha it was the 70’s and my grandmother told me I looked a little to familiar with that hookah!  Ah the good old days..

[neilrr]

The next song for all of us children of the 60's will be done by Jim Morrison of the Doors to keep up the theme... LOL😁

Edited February 26, 2020 by neilrr

[davekathy]

13 minutes ago, neilrr said:

The next song for all of us children of the 60's will be by done Jim Morrison of the Doors to keep up the theme... LOL😁

You're on to something. With all the COVID19 posts, the Doors song "This Is The End" could be the next theme song. ✌️

[markeb]

29 minutes ago, davekathy said:

You're on to something. With all the COVID19 posts, the Doors song "This Is The End" could be the next theme song. ✌️

 

Appropriately set to some version of the opening sequence to Apocalypse Now. That would blow some minds!

[TeeRick]

22 hours ago, oceangoer2 said:

Really don't want to keep this going...but...we're E+ and loyal to X...like some have said, a song won't influence us one way or another, but given the epidemic drug culture prevalent in the US, one might think more carefully before promoting a drug culture reference in their marketing...and...young people are a much more in tune with lyrics (given rap etc) than you're giving them credit for.  There are SOME young people who wouldn't necessarily even watch TV, never mind a commercial, but might overhear this, pay attention to the words, and would think this an endorsement of a hip, rad, woke...pick a word depending on generation, LOL....lifestyle.  Again JMHO.

I am not questioning your opinion at all.  I just asked if this song and ad would stop you from sailing on Celebrity.  I guess the answer is no based on your response.  IMO the ad is not really influencing most people to boycott Celebrity even though some us older folk remember the context in 1967 when it was released.  I was a kid.  It did not influence me then either.  Happy cruising!

[neilrr]

22 hours ago, davekathy said:

You're on to something. With all the COVID19 posts, the Doors song "This Is The End" could be the next theme song. ✌️

 

davekathy - I was thinking of "Light My Fire" rather than "This Is The End... 

 

3 hours ago, TeeRick said:

I am not questioning your opinion at all.  I just asked if this song and ad would stop you from sailing on Celebrity.  I guess the answer is no based on your response.  IMO the ad is not really influencing most people to boycott Celebrity even though some us older folk remember the context in 1967 when it was released.  I was a kid.  It did not influence me then either.  Happy cruising!

Hi TeeRick - We miss you on our thread... Sorry you are not traveling with us... I thought the ad was a bit strange, but most Millennials will not get it anyway.  Maybe Celebrity is starting the a new 60's Boutique (with all the goodies) on board... LOL  

[markeb]

23 hours ago, neilrr said:

The next song for all of us children of the 60's will be done by Jim Morrison of the Doors to keep up the theme... LOL😁

 

Just to get this back off the rails for fun...

 

"Nevermind" was released in 1991. A 20-something in 1991 is entering Celebrity's demographic, if not already there.

 

Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Nine Inch Nails, Rage Against the Machine, etc., could seriously start making appearances. That will be interesting. 😱 (Pity there's no head exploding emoji...)

[TeeRick]

21 hours ago, neilrr said:

 

davekathy - I was thinking of "Light My Fire" rather than "This Is The End... 

 

Hi TeeRick - We miss you on our thread... Sorry you are not traveling with us... I thought the ad was a bit strange, but most Millennials will not get it anyway.  Maybe Celebrity is starting the a new 60's Boutique (with all the goodies) on board... LOL  

Thanks Neil.  I will drop by the roll call and say Hi to everybody!  Edge does have a 60's funky forest passageway leading to Eden on the aft of the ship.  In A Gadda Da Vida would be an appropriate song for an ad I think! 

[Fouremco]

5 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

In A Gadda Da Vida would be an appropriate song for an ad I think! 

Just not the full album version, over 17 minutes long IIRC.