Aplmac Posted February 5, 2020 #101 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Is this Cruise Travel's and Air Travel's ... 9/11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K32682 Posted February 5, 2020 #102 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aplmac said: Is this Cruise Travel's and Air Travel's ... 9/11? Comparing a viral outbreak with a terrorist attack is a bit excessive however coronavirus may have a disproportionate impact on the cruising industry. Thousands of people crammed into tight spaces for extended periods does increase the risk of spread. Secondly cruisers tend to skew toward an older demographic who apparently are at greater risk from the virus. https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/asia/coronavirus-cruise-quarantines-intl-hnk/index.html "Older people are especially susceptible to the Wuhan coronavirus -- China's National Health Commission said Tuesday that 80% of all fatalities in mainland China were over the age of 60." Edited February 5, 2020 by K32682 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted February 5, 2020 #103 Share Posted February 5, 2020 In the words of The Dear Leader.. "We'll see what happens" Could turn out to be a sort of slooww-motion 9/11 ? - a crossroads if you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted February 5, 2020 #104 Share Posted February 5, 2020 What we find disturbing is that over 2600 passengers are confined to their cabins on the Diamond Princess and this will likely continue for at least 14 days. Imagine being confined to an inside cabin for 2 weeks! Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K32682 Posted February 5, 2020 #105 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Hlitner said: What we find disturbing is that over 2600 passengers are confined to their cabins on the Diamond Princess and this will likely continue for at least 14 days. Imagine being confined to an inside cabin for 2 weeks! Hank Offering further proof that balconies are worth the extra cost. 😉 Edited February 5, 2020 by K32682 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ava79 Posted February 5, 2020 #106 Share Posted February 5, 2020 No, really, all this fuss with coronavirus is too overrated. Even the worst predictions say that maximal number of people who fell ill will be attained to the middle of February, and after that epidemic will go down. The one thing that could cause some fears is a cruise to China right now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 5, 2020 #107 Share Posted February 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ava79 said: Unfortunately, I've lost the link where I saw these prognosis to prove these information but look:https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-to-know-about-the-mysterious-coronavirus-detected-in-china Here they say that a person who contracted the coronavirus has recovered and was sent home in US, so that means doctors probably found a medicine. I mean, everything has to be alright, but these fuss I said about is awful. For example, when I went to work a few days ago, I saw that one asian girl came to the subway car and people around her started to move away quickly. They were scared of course but isn't it impolite and offensively in relation to this girl? I just wanna say that journalists mustn't contribute to panic I No, if I were cruising in Asia, maybe, but I am NOT and will NOt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ava79 Posted February 5, 2020 #108 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, sail7seas said: I No, if I were cruising in Asia, maybe, but I am NOT and will NOt. right decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 5, 2020 #109 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I do not see this as a long lasting threat to cruising in general ravel BUT for some of Asia What do any of us really know? The experts admit to having lots they do not know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted February 5, 2020 #110 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, sail7seas said: I do not see this as a long lasting threat to cruising in general ravel BUT for some of Asia What do any of us really know? The experts admit to having lots they do not know That rather depends whether it spreads across the world or whether it can be contained. Unfortunately the Chinese acted far too late and we don’t yet know how many infectious people there are, or where they are. I had regrettably to cancel this year’s cruises, but I’m very relieved now that I did. The very last place I’d choose to be if this continues to spread is a cruise ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ava79 Posted February 5, 2020 #111 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Harry Peterson said: That rather depends whether it spreads across the world or whether it can be contained. Unfortunately the Chinese acted far too late and we don’t yet know how many infectious people there are, or where they are. I had regrettably to cancel this year’s cruises, but I’m very relieved now that I did. The very last place I’d choose to be if this continues to spread is a cruise ship. I understand your feelings. My father travelled to Asia last autumn, and when I just think about he could be there now... It scares me. But all in all I suppose everything will be ok, in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 5, 2020 #112 Share Posted February 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said: That rather depends whether it spreads across the world or whether it can be contained. Unfortunately the Chinese acted far too late and we don’t yet know how many infectious people there are, or where they are. I had regrettably to cancel this year’s cruises, but I’m very relieved now that I did. The very last place I’d choose to be if this continues to spread is a cruise ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted February 5, 2020 #113 Share Posted February 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ava79 said: Here they say that a person who contracted the coronavirus has recovered and was sent home in US, so that means doctors probably found a medicine No, that is most definitely NOT what it means. It simply means that he recovered sufficiently to be discharged home. Hospitals can provide the medical support to ( in most cases) treat the symptoms. But there is, at this time, no magic bullet medicine that will cure the disease itself. There are experimental treatments using antivirals which show promise, but they haven't been given approval for general use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 5, 2020 #114 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I totally agree. Sorry you missed your cruise but I think you were wise to cance l. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 5, 2020 #115 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mom says said: No, that is most definitely NOT what it means. It simply means that he recovered sufficiently to be discharged home. Hospitals can provide the medical support to ( in most cases) treat the symptoms. But there is, at this time, no magic bullet medicine that will cure the disease itself. There are experimental treatments using antivirals which show promise, but they haven't been given approval for general use. IMO, 'what it' means is we ( and some other nations) have the equipment, trained care givers and meds to keep people alive while their body slowly with proper rest hydration and high enough O2 recovers. Edited February 5, 2020 by sail7seas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ava79 Posted February 5, 2020 #116 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, sail7seas said: IMO, 'what it' means is we ( and some other nations) have the equipment, trained care givers and meds to keep people alive while their body slowly with proper rest hydration and high enough O2 recovers. Doesn't it give us a hope to feel quite safe in our country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resistk Posted February 5, 2020 #117 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) The quarrantines are no joke, so we will likely know in the next 14 days if this is another Zika virus type false alert. Edited February 5, 2020 by resistk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine13020 Posted February 5, 2020 #118 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Hlitner said: What we find disturbing is that over 2600 passengers are confined to their cabins on the Diamond Princess and this will likely continue for at least 14 days. Imagine being confined to an inside cabin for 2 weeks! Hank Sounds like being in prison, especially if you have an inside cabin, ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowTheScore Posted February 5, 2020 #119 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Some relevant info: https%3A%2F%2Fwww.medrxiv.org%2Fcontent%2F10.1101%2F2020.01.23.20018549v1.full.pdf "In 14 days’ time (4 February 2020), our model predicts the number of infected people in Wuhan to be greater than 190 thousand" "Our model suggests that travel restrictions from and to Wuhan city are unlikely to be effective in halting transmission across China; with a 99% effective reduction in travel, the size of the epidemic outside of Wuhan may only be reduced by 24.9% on 4 February. " More here: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/health/coronavirus-pandemic-china.html "In the last three weeks, the number of lab-confirmed cases has soared from about 50 in China to more than 17,000 in at least 23 countries; there have been more than 360 deaths. But various epidemiological models estimate that the real number of cases is 100,000 or even more. While that expansion is not as rapid as that of flu or measles, it is an enormous leap beyond what virologists saw when SARS and MERS emerged." "It is “increasingly unlikely that the virus can be contained,” said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted February 5, 2020 #120 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Hlitner said: What we find disturbing is that over 2600 passengers are confined to their cabins on the Diamond Princess and this will likely continue for at least 14 days. Imagine being confined to an inside cabin for 2 weeks! Hank Perfect time to catch up on your sleep and watch those rerun movies you missed. Plus you can still surf internet 24/7. It's not an ideal situation but survivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowTheScore Posted February 5, 2020 #121 Share Posted February 5, 2020 For information: Another cruise ship, The World Dream of Dream Cruises has become the latest cruise ship to have confirmed cases of Coronavirus on-board. See Cruise News section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruseforme Posted February 5, 2020 #122 Share Posted February 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, KnowTheScore said: Some relevant info: https%3A%2F%2Fwww.medrxiv.org%2Fcontent%2F10.1101%2F2020.01.23.20018549v1.full.pdf "In 14 days’ time (4 February 2020), our model predicts the number of infected people in Wuhan to be greater than 190 thousand" "Our model suggests that travel restrictions from and to Wuhan city are unlikely to be effective in halting transmission across China; with a 99% effective reduction in travel, the size of the epidemic outside of Wuhan may only be reduced by 24.9% on 4 February. " More here: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/health/coronavirus-pandemic-china.html "In the last three weeks, the number of lab-confirmed cases has soared from about 50 in China to more than 17,000 in at least 23 countries; there have been more than 360 deaths. But various epidemiological models estimate that the real number of cases is 100,000 or even more. While that expansion is not as rapid as that of flu or measles, it is an enormous leap beyond what virologists saw when SARS and MERS emerged." "It is “increasingly unlikely that the virus can be contained,” said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention " Ya’ll do realize that this poster is mentioning site medrxiv which is NOT peer reviewed and as such is a breeding ground for “unsubstantiated” claims. This is not a credible source in the US In the AMA’s eyes, and does in fact cause the mob effect for fear mongering. Pls, all, make your own decisions on fact, your physicians recommendations, based on your situation, not some anonymous poster on an open forum. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted February 5, 2020 #123 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, KnowTheScore said: For information: Another cruise ship, The World Dream of Dream Cruises has become the latest cruise ship to have confirmed cases of Coronavirus on-board. See Cruise News section. A Hong Kong owned cruise ship aimed at the Chinese market, full of crew and pax from China and Hong Kong. Who didn't see that coming? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowTheScore Posted February 6, 2020 #124 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Cruseforme said: Pls, all, make your own decisions on fact, your physicians recommendations, based on your situation, not some anonymous poster on an open forum. Oh I totally agree. Vital for everyone to do their own research at this time and to fully understand the implications of cruising during this current Coronvirus situation. Gather what news you can and make an informed decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurab23 Posted February 6, 2020 #125 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) We cruise from Baltimore to the Bahamas on Feb 16. And of course I am concerned. Laura Edited February 6, 2020 by Laurab23 spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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