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15 minutes ago, HalifaxUKFirstTimers said:

Totally agree Laura. It is a horrible situation for everybody who is either on a cruise ship such as the Grand (and others) and those who are thinking of cancelling a cruise and potentially losing money along with a holiday.

 

The situation is all very fluid and will continue to be so for a while yet. Meanwhile people are dying of the virus and that will have an impact on their loved ones.

 

At times like this, hard as it seems, there are actually more important things than getting  worked up about something we can’t control. People are losing their lives and I for one would rather stay alive and healthy than lose some money.

I believe we can decrease our likelihood of getting the virus and continuing its spread through our decisions and actions.  It means cancelling travel and close socializing, working from home, staying home if not feeling well, washing hands and consciously avoiding touching your face, extra surface cleaning in your environment, covering coughs and sneezes and properly disposing of tissues...  Perhaps the idea of having a preventive vaccine or post infection medication seems easier, but all the personal steps are cheap and achievable. We do have control.  Don’t give up.   We’ve got this!

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The coronavirus is really like a forest fire.  I am not resigned to catching it, by no means. But, was talking with my sister the other day and told her it was like trying to hold back a wave with your body.  There are just too many variables and unknown contact points, both on and off ships and now, just in general life.  For example- I sing in a group where the leader was sick this past week.  He is married to a nurse who works in one of the biggest hospitals in Houston. There is also an active case in Conroe a few blocks away from where they live. If she is unknowingly exposed, then he is exposed.  He does setup for the band so his hands touch everything... mikes, keyboard, guitars, ipads, stands.  I started wiping down things that I touched frequently about two weeks ago, but CV is so contagious all it takes is a cough aimed in the wrong direction at the wrong time.  Add that to the fact that they are still practicing intinction at our local church for communion which is totally the wrong thing to do anyway, regardless of a pandemic.  (Intinction is the practice of dipping a piece of the communion bread in a common cup of wine/juice. Many people end up sticking their fingers into the cup accidentally). I am out of pocket for the next two weeks for Spring Break, stay-cationing with our grandkids here at the house.  We should, as a country- really know if this is escalating exponentially in 14 more days.  For all of our sakes, I hope it doesn't- and that warmer weather will put the Kabosh on it.  If not- we do what we can in the meantime, especially where it pertains to exposure.  Every person on these boards loves to cruise, me included.  I hope that the industry can survive this hit.

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With a vaccine and new treatments likely a year or so away, we’re thinking of this in terms of a marathon and not a sprint.  Being mindful of keeping paws off the face, washing our hands first thing when we get in the house... so many everyday tasks to modify but figure they will be good discipline when we hope on a ship - hopefully for our November cruise!

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14 minutes ago, 2cruizinfools said:

FYI State of Emergency declared in Broward County

3 of the 4 confirmed cases in Broward work at Port Everglades.

 

https://wsvn.com/news/local/state-of-emergency-declared-in-broward-county-after-4th-case-of-covid-19-confirmed/

 

Horrible News, potentially compromising current and future cruises, as well as those disembarking, and co-workers.

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I wonder if cruise passengers unknowingly infected the port workers initially 😞

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Be careful people.  Company in question (three confirmed coronavirus cases amongst its employees) is the one that specifically services Princess Cruises @ Port Everglades.  This means terminal employees and luggage handlers.

 

More info:

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-coronovirus-metro-services-everglades-20200310-ocpt7i4jrzhdfkd5ilbp6sypte-story.html

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8 hours ago, Iamcruzin said:

The difference is that a cruise ship isn't a means of transportation. It's leisure travel that can be eliminated where the other forms of transportation are a necessity. 

 

True, but would you be willing to get on a crowded subway car if you knew there was a high probability that one or more people on that car had the virus?

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6 hours ago, chamima said:

 

 

And, as far as I know, they still don't know how he was infected!

 

 

 

Correct, but now his entire city is under quarantine. About 80,000 people.

 

Maybe now cruise ships will not be considered as the only likely source of the virus.

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This is of great concern because it affects thousands of people who have recently cruised in and out of there! I wish they’d give more info about when they worked and how they think they were infected. Hopefully that will come out as they investigate because there could be thousands of former cruise pax walking around infected in our country with no clue. 
 

I also think of the sweet employees we came into contact with boarding and disembarking our December cruise in Port Everglades and hope it was none of them. Many of them fall into that high risk age category. 

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First I've seen it  (and I live if FLL).  Doesn't make it any less concerning.

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12 hours ago, disneycruisinsusan said:

 

I agree with you 100%! That was my thought exactly when I heard the crew has to stay onboard!  Where will the ship go? Who is treating the crew members who are sick and who is making sure it is not going to spread to other crew menbers? It is insane to keep the crew together on that ship, COVID19 positive and negative alike! Unbelievable how they are being treated. 😞😞😠😠

 

And now the Grand will HAVE to be cleaned and refurbed like the Diamond! All soft goods will have to be destroyed, the ship completely sanitized! Are they expecting the crew now still onboard to start this clean-up?  

 

We have a good friend who works onboard, my hubby's best buddy!  He says he is okay! Tomorrow we will text him to see what more is going on IF they have still have Wi-Fi With no passengers onboard, it may be very limited.... 😞😞 We have not heard much from him in 2 days...so they may be restricting their access. 

 

Our prayers are with the crew still onboard  the Grand and all the passengers who disembarked in Monday....GOD Bless them all....🙏🙏🙏🙏💙💙💙💙

 

We were supposed to be on the Grand on April 5 starting two back-to-back 15 day Hawaii cruises for the whole month of April, but not now!!!! No way! I don't think the April cruises will happen anyway with the Grand the way it is right now!  We won't be cruising for a while, til this virus is under control or gone! We do have reservations for a South Pacific cruise for October, but we shall see what happens.....

Do you think those in charge have not thought of your questions and come up with solutions? Quite possibly the crew are better protected than those who are taken off the ship in groups and put on buses and planes.

How long do you think a virus can survive without a host? Sanitizing will be sufficient and anything further is only to appease people who don’t know better. There is nothing wrong with expecting HEALTHY crew members to continue working at something.

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19 minutes ago, RNCheryl said:

First I've seen it  (and I live if FLL).  Doesn't make it any less concerning.

 

It's been on all of our local news but most only concentrate that they work at the port.  

 

I realize that Princess has mainly been in the news and they keep concentrating on that.  However, as someone who lives very close to Port Miami, I realize that it's all around us and just starting to come to light.  One of these days more stories and cases will come to light and the spotlight will be taken off Princess cruises and other cruise lines will be mentioned a lot more.

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41 minutes ago, caribill said:

 

True, but would you be willing to get on a crowded subway car if you knew there was a high probability that one or more people on that car had the virus?

Honestly there is more than a probability that more than one person in the subway has something sinister to offer at any point in time. Yet it doesn't seem to bother the thousands who cram into  buses and subways on a daily basis. One of whom is my wife who has been doing it for 20yrs now. She also works in a hospital Monday thru Friday.  Unless we win the lottery tonight she will continue doing it.  As a side note one of the Administrators asked her if she would be able to do her job from home so they are gearing up for the worst.  My son who works for a large bank was told that if they shut down the subways they will be closing all of the branches in Manhattan and he will be paid for 14 days to stay home.  

Edited by Iamcruzin

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3/10/2020-Real-time updates: 25 corona virus deaths among more than 267 cases in Washington.

Gov. Jay Inslee said Tuesday that up to 64,000 people could be infected within two months if actions aren't taken now to stop its spread. Let's see what this does to Princess Alaska cruises this summer?

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1 minute ago, nooptere said:

3/10/2020-Real-time updates: 25 corona virus deaths among more than 267 cases in Washington.

Gov. Jay Inslee said Tuesday that up to 64,000 people could be infected within two months if actions aren't taken now to stop its spread. Let's see what this does to Princess Alaska cruises this summer?

Just Princess ?

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, voljeep said:

Just Princess ?

No, other lines too. But I don't want to hijack the thread.😁

Edited by nooptere

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https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-coronovirus-metro-services-everglades-20200310-ocpt7i4jrzhdfkd5ilbp6sypte-story.html

 

According to this article, and quite a few other related articles posted today, four employees from the company used by Princess to greet and process passengers at Port Everglades, have tested positive for COVID-19. The company is Metro Cruise Services and the employees were working between February 12 and March 6, dealing with all Princess ships out of this port. 
The job descriptions of these people were wide and varied and included the people who check you in and give you your passes or medallions.

 

In another article, officials urged passengers, as well as other Metro Cruise Services employees, who had been through Port Everglades during this time period and who were experiencing symptoms to self quarantine and contact their heath providers with the information. We were through this port during this time period and I’m pretty sure others on this board were, also. We thought this information should be passed along.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)

Princess Cruises ships currently out of service:

 

Diamond Princess: Tokyo (cleaning / on hold)
Sapphire Princess: Singapore (non-scheduled dry dock)
Majestic Princess: Singapore (scheduled dry dock)
Grand Princess: Oakland (deboarding / cleaning / on hold)
Royal Princess: San Pedro (on hold)
Regal Princess: on its way to Freeport (without Pax)
Caribbean Princess: no sail order from CDC, returning to PEF

Am I missing something?

Edited by EDVM96

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3 hours ago, Stateroom_Sailor said:

 

Horrible News, potentially compromising current and future cruises, as well as those disembarking, and co-workers.

How can Princess not offer our payments back when the Port employees could even be infected.  I would like the choice of purchasing a future cruise when I feel its safe, not Future Cruise Credits to use within the year.  

 

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12 minutes ago, Lemonslikethefruit said:

How can Princess not offer our payments back when the Port employees could even be infected.  I would like the choice of purchasing a future cruise when I feel its safe, not Future Cruise Credits to use within the year.  

 

Why would it only be Princess? It's not THEIR port... the employees are port employees I believe...

Edited by jwattle

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9 minutes ago, jwattle said:

Why would it only be Princess? It's not THEIR port... the employees are port employees I believe...


They work for a company (Metro Cruise Services) that Princess hired to staff port functions.

Edited by capriccio

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2 minutes ago, capriccio said:


They work for a company that Princess hired to staff port functions.

Thank you for the clarification.

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We have read a lot of great and bad things going on with the virus. Now here is my question would you do something different on how princess is handling it and what would you do once this is over to get old and new customers back.

 

 

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