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Posted (edited)

This is starting to get out of hand.  We're now seeing the effects of breaches made 7-21 days ago, I highly suggest avoiding cruising for the time being.

 

CARNIVAL PANORAMA

MARCH 7, 2020

 
 


March 7, 2020

 

 

Dear Carnival Panorama Guests,

 

We want to provide you with an update for our embarkation plans for today.

 

There is a medical matter involving a guest currently on board that has caused authorities to suspend the debarkation process. Although the guest in question does not meet CDC criteria for coronavirus risk, officials still require additional information. Our shore side medical team is in direct contact with authorities and debarkation will resume as soon as we have received clearance from local authorities. 

 

At this time, we do not have an estimate as to when embarkation for today's cruise will start. Since we have limited seating, please do not proceed to the cruise terminal until you have heard from us. 

A US$15, per person, lunch credit will be posted on your Sail & Sign account so you can enjoy lunch on us during this delay. 

 

We will keep you updated as we have more information. All future updates will be by text. If you haven't already done so, we kindly ask that you sign up by texting CCL3 to 278473 (CRUISE). 

 

We sincerely apologize for this delay and thank you for your understanding. 

 

 

 

Sincerely, 

Colleen Oliverio Signature

 

 

 

 
Edited by Stateroom_Sailor

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2 minutes ago, need2cruisesoon said:

I have verified information that the Grand will dock in Oakland this weekend.

 

Surveyors are looking at the old Oakland terminals to verify fitment.

 

 

That makes sense having a survey of the pier performed due to them not being used for awhile for such a large vessel. Where did you get this information from?

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5 minutes ago, Pushka said:


The masks are only effective for 15 minutes or so and once they become damp they actually trap the virus inside. There are simply not enough masks to do the job. In Aus we are being told not to wear them unless you yourself have the virus. 
 

As regards to the test kits available. This virus was only really known about since January. It's March. A test had to be developed, produced and distributed. How on earth could 'the world' produce enough test kits with such high demand, and people needing multiple tests. The logistics are overwhelming and which is why every attempt is being made to slow the spread down. Cruise ships unfortunately are accelerating it. 

 the 15-30 mins is for surgical type masks - there are others designed to last for much longer

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3 minutes ago, ceilidh1 said:

Is this true? Maybe Royal?

Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess

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1 minute ago, fragilek said:

 the 15-30 mins is for surgical type masks - there are others designed to last for much longer


However the numpties who are flogging the masks are just flogging anything, thinking they are safe and then likely neglecting to do the basic rule which is wash hands well and frequently. 

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1 minute ago, flyguyjake said:

Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess


both panorama and royal princess ships have suspended embarkation.

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1 minute ago, flyguyjake said:

Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess

 

As mentioned above, folks on the Royal thread for today's departure have indicated boarding has been delayed.

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Just now, BermudaBound2014 said:


both panorama and royal princess ships have suspended embarkation.

 

What a damn debacle. 

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9 minutes ago, Stateroom_Sailor said:

This is starting to get out of hand.  We're now seeing the effects of breaches made 7-21 days ago, I highly suggest avoiding cruising for the time being.

 

CARNIVAL PANORAMA

MARCH 7, 2020

 
 


March 7, 2020

 

 

Dear Carnival Panorama Guests,

 

We want to provide you with an update for our embarkation plans for today.

 

There is a medical matter involving a guest currently on board that has caused authorities to suspend the debarkation process. Although the guest in question does not meet CDC criteria for coronavirus risk, officials still require additional information. Our shore side medical team is in direct contact with authorities and debarkation will resume as soon as we have received clearance from local authorities. 

 

At this time, we do not have an estimate as to when embarkation for today's cruise will start. Since we have limited seating, please do not proceed to the cruise terminal until you have heard from us. 

A US$15, per person, lunch credit will be posted on your Sail & Sign account so you can enjoy lunch on us during this delay. 

 

We will keep you updated as we have more information. All future updates will be by text. If you haven't already done so, we kindly ask that you sign up by texting CCL3 to 278473 (CRUISE). 

 

We sincerely apologize for this delay and thank you for your understanding. 

 

 

 

Sincerely, 

Colleen Oliverio Signature

 

 

 

 

the way I am reading above it is saying the person has symptoms but they can't test per cdc.  Is there not a medical dr. on board that can request the test...this is no time to guess on this stuff. Agree no time to be cruising. One after another.

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9 minutes ago, brisalta said:

That makes sense having a survey of the pier performed due to them not being used for awhile for such a large vessel. Where did you get this information from?

 

Local tugboat Captain.

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8 minutes ago, ceilidh1 said:

Is this true? Maybe Royal?

wow...that could be trouble

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2 minutes ago, flyguyjake said:

Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess

 

Does this possibly include guest entertainers? Do they do short stints and go from ship to ship? I was recently on a Seabourn cruise and they had a young lady who was only on for a few days. Then moving on.

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4 minutes ago, flyguyjake said:

Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess

Carnival doesn't share crew with Princess. Completely separate in terms of employment.

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Just now, kimanjo said:

 

Does this possibly include guest entertainers? Do they do short stints and go from ship to ship? I was recently on a Seabourn cruise and they had a young lady who was only on for a few days. Then moving on.

Oh, this could be possible.....

Not actual crew though

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1 minute ago, cruiserchuck said:

 

As mentioned above, folks on the Royal thread for today's departure have indicated boarding has been delayed.

 

Honestly would you board knowing that its very likely a crew member or back to back passenger has it and you'll be quarantined?

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3 minutes ago, kathy49 said:

the way I am reading above it is saying the person has symptoms but they can't test per cdc.  Is there not a medical dr. on board that can request the test...this is no time to guess on this stuff. Agree no time to be cruising. One after another.

 

There was an announcement made on board that the ship will not debark until this passenger is tested and the results of the test come back. So, it appears this passenger is getting tested, despite not meeting the CDC "at risk" guidelines.

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1 minute ago, ceilidh1 said:

Carnival doesn't share crew with Princess. Completely separate in terms of employment.


When I listened to VP Pence I got the feeling the crew from the two ships in question came in contact with one another  not trust the two ships shared crew. 

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2 minutes ago, ceilidh1 said:

Oh, this could be possible.....

Not actual crew though

 

No, but maybe they are using "crew" loosely, as opposed to passenger.

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Just now, ChiCruiser758 said:

 

There was an announcement made on board that the ship will not debark until this passenger is tested and the results of the test come back. So, it appears this passenger is getting tested, despite not meeting the CDC "at risk" guidelines.


that is what is being reported on Panorama. An announcement from the cruise director is available. Rooms have been reopened.

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4 hours ago, bluesea321 said:


This is very very sad. However, having been in a similar situation we just didn't travel anywhere until all treatments had been verified and the All Clear was given. Because delays can happen. Plus you are very immune compromised during treatments. 

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15 minutes ago, ceilidh1 said:

Is this true? Maybe Royal?


If they shared crew with the Diamond that is surprising,  unless it was a guest entertainer. 

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Posted (edited)

When I went through chemo treatments I avoided crowds.  I waited 18 months post treatment to go on a cruise (ironically, The Grand from SF-Hawaii-SF).  I wouldn't have felt good enough to enjoy a cruise in between treatments.   I wish her well, though

 

 

Edited by wrongwaywatson

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22 minutes ago, Pushka said:

As regards to the test kits available. This virus was only really known about since January. It's March. A test had to be developed, produced and distributed. How on earth could 'the world' produce enough test kits with such high demand, and people needing multiple tests. The logistics are overwhelming and which is why every attempt is being made to slow the spread down.

 

Other countries such as Korea have managed to have sufficient test kits available.

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2 minutes ago, debsjc said:


If they shared crew with the Diamond that is surprising,  unless it was a guest entertainer. 

Not really. Crew get shifted from ship to ship all the time. They are sent where needed. In fact, we were on Royal a year ago and a new member of the cruise team left the ship after the second day as she was transferred to Diamond due to her language abilities.

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