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13 minutes ago, ceilidh1 said:

Yeah, it is Jan Swartz. Dr Grant Terling(?) chief medical officer and media

 

 

It's interesting listening, for sure.

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14 minutes ago, villauk said:

 

I can see them doing something like this: any costs incurred will be charged back to the individual passenger and you’ll have to sign something at boarding to state you agree to it. 

 

I would not be surprised if they introduce a requirement for a medical note indicating that you have had a flu shot and once one is available for covad-19 that you have had a shot for that.

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51 minutes ago, kathy49 said:

the Chicken Ladies recently reported from the ship . Not sure who "Wayne" is. They honestly don't have a clue what is happening...they did mention many of the passengers are out on balconies visiting etc. The internet is bad and it goes in and out.

 

People needing to use the limited internet service and others are streaming nonsense. 

If husband and son are in a different cabin, who is that sitting behind them. And did people visiting on balconies not learn anything from Diamond?

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2 minutes ago, 2wheelin said:

If husband and son are in a different cabin,

There are 4 of them in their 2 bedroom suite FWD deck 9. Husband, wife, son & wife's sister. The two ladies are sisters.

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Posted (edited)

VP Mike Pence announces changes to cruise line industry to fight coronavirus

https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-07-20-intl-hnk/index.html

There will be enhanced entry and exit screening for cruise passengers, as well as on-board testing for coronavirus, Pence said. There will also be new quarantine standards for those who took a cruise and need to be quarantined, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will coordinate.

The cruise line industry is working with the CDC, Department of Homeland Security and the Coast Guard over the next 72 hours to implement the plans.

Edited by fragilek

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53 minutes ago, idahospud said:

New advisory has been posted on Princess:

 

Health Advisory and Travel Safety Procedures

To protect the health and safety of all onboard, we are closely monitoring the evolving situation with novel coronavirus (COVID-19). We are quickly implementing enhanced screening measures and additional prevention and control procedures. Our protection and prevention tactics include:

  1. Beginning in select embarkation terminals on March 7th and as soon as possible in all embarkation terminals, we will be temperature checking all guests embarking on our ships using temporal scanning thermometers. All guests presenting with a fever or flu-like symptoms will be denied boarding, irrespective of their recent travel history. All guests who are denied boarding due to sickness will be issued a full cruise credit or refund.
  2. Beginning in select embarkation terminals on March 7th and as soon as possible in all embarkation terminals, we will be implementing enhanced sanitation protocols including the thorough cleaning of all hand touching surfaces for all cruise terminals before and after all sailings.
  3. Onboard all Princess ships, effective immediately, we are executing enhanced environmental sanitation protocols with a disinfectant that kills coronaviruses within 30 seconds.

 

More of the advisory can be found at https://www.princess.com/news/notices_and_advisories/notices/coronavirus-update.html

 

Part of the advisory:

 

"We will conduct additional pre-boarding screening of all guests and crew who have visited areas with community spread of COVID-19 ...."

 

Soon community spread will mean most of the USA. Certainly it would apply now to those from New York City area and the Seattle Washington area.

 

 

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There will be enhanced entry and exit screening for cruise passengers, as well as on-board testing for coronavirus, Pence said.

 

So if one person is positive on the exit screening. What happens to those that come after?  I assume onboard testing is only for those who have symptoms. I will be glad when they release more details. Hope they do it in the next day or two.

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1 minute ago, MoniMommy said:

There will be enhanced entry and exit screening for cruise passengers, as well as on-board testing for coronavirus, Pence said.

 

So if one person is positive on the exit screening. What happens to those that come after?  I assume onboard testing is only for those who have symptoms. I will be glad when they release more details. Hope they do it in the next day or two.

 

Exit screening medically could only be seeing if the person had an elevated temperature.

 

And, as you said, then what would happen with with everyone else if one person had an elevated temperature?

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Posted (edited)

British Columbia's public health officer Asks cruise ship passengers to think twice before going on cruise ships.   They have cases showing up now from the Diamond Princess (not the Grand.)

 

Full video.   This is one that has to be seen, both of the medical officials get quite emotional about it.    At the end the male officer says that his advice is that you should not take a cruise.   Pretty strong stuff considering how big of a hit that would be to Vancouver's economy.

Edited by NorthwestCruiser

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9 minutes ago, flyguyjake said:

There are 4 of them in their 2 bedroom suite FWD deck 9. Husband, wife, son & wife's sister. The two ladies are sisters.

Sorry. Someone else stated they were in a different cabin.

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6 minutes ago, 2wheelin said:

Sorry. Someone else stated they were in a different cabin.

It is a family suite which is essentially a mini-suite connected to an inside cabin. Thus two cabins with a connecting door.

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They need to check every staff persons temperature daily on every ship worldwide for the time being.

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Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, brisalta said:

 

I would not be surprised if they introduce a requirement for a medical note indicating that you have had a flu shot and once one is available for covad-19 that you have had a shot for that.


How is that going to work for the Southern Hemisphere where our flu shots for this year haven't been released yet? The timings of the flu shots are totally dependent on the seasons of the year and we are still in summer mode so nothing available for us yet. 
 

As far as testing onboard - I think it will be a case of Seek and Ye shall find. I think someone will from now on, test positive and if a younger person, may have no symptoms at all. Then what?
 

It will be an interesting exercise if testing everyone onboard the Grand, just how many test positive and not even have a cold. 

Edited by Pushka

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Following is from https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-07/spread-of-coronavirus-on-grand-princess-ship-raises-public-health-alarms

 
March 7, 2020
3:30 PM

A California man who died of the novel coronavirus brought it on board the Grand Princess cruise ship, officials said Saturday, suggesting the virus has been in the state much longer than originally believed.

Dr. Grant Tarling, the cruise’s medical officer, said the man — who later died in Placer County after leaving the cruise — sought medical care on the ship Feb. 20 and had been sick for several days. Tarling said two waiters who served the man multiple times were subsequently infected.

The news is a revelation that could mean the virus has been circulating in California longer than authorities have previously disclosed, Tarling said.

Thousands of passengers remain on the ship held off the San Francisco coast amid an outbreak on board.

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Dr. Grant said a group of passengers got off the Grand Princess in Hawaii and did not continue with the cruise.

Sounds like HI is about to report many more cases of CoronaVirus soon.

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I suppose Grand Princess is circling off the coast whilst decisions are made by the government as to where she will berth and to make ready that facility with the necessary support.  Time will tell.  Best wishes to all on board.

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Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, brisalta said:

 

 

Following is from https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-07/spread-of-coronavirus-on-grand-princess-ship-raises-public-health-alarms

 
March 7, 2020
3:30 PM

A California man who died of the novel coronavirus brought it on board the Grand Princess cruise ship, officials said Saturday, suggesting the virus has been in the state much longer than originally believed.

Dr. Grant Tarling, the cruise’s medical officer, said the man — who later died in Placer County after leaving the cruise — sought medical care on the ship Feb. 20 and had been sick for several days. Tarling said two waiters who served the man multiple times were subsequently infected.

The news is a revelation that could mean the virus has been circulating in California longer than authorities have previously disclosed, Tarling said.

Thousands of passengers remain on the ship held off the San Francisco coast amid an outbreak on board.

...

 

I'm listening to a replay of the news conference through the link that someone so kindly provided and just heard that part.  In light of what happened on the Diamond Princess, I find it shocking that the man had symptoms starting around the 13th and continued to go to the MDR for dinner.  They have also said that the two passengers who tested positive were not on the Mexico cruise.  And that all of the crew who have tested positive and those they have closely associated with have been isolated but were mostly customer facing people.  Seriously hoping that this happened immediately after they showed symptoms and that there aren't more who test positive.

Edited by azbirdmom

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26 minutes ago, NorthwestCruiser said:

British Columbia's public health officer Asks cruise ship passengers to think twice before going on cruise ships.   They have cases showing up now from the Diamond Princess (not the Grand.)

 

Full video.   This is one that has to be seen, both of the medical officials get quite emotional about it.    At the end the male officer says that his advice is that you should not take a cruise.   Pretty strong stuff considering how big of a hit that would be to Vancouver's economy.

With the Alaska Inside passage cruise season starting in May.  We all know how busy that is in and out of Vancouver. Big call by the public health officer, but I tend to agree.

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3 minutes ago, NSWP said:

I suppose Grand Princess is circling off the coast whilst decisions are made by the government as to where she will berth and to make ready that facility with the necessary support.  Time will tell.  Best wishes to all on board.

 

NWSP how quickly would the Australian authorities make a decision if faced with such a scenario?

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2 minutes ago, azbirdmom said:

 

I'm listening to a replay of the news conference through the link that someone so kindly provided and just heard that part.  In light of what happened on the Diamond Princess, I find it shocking that the man had symptoms starting around the 13th and continued to go to the MDR for dinner.  They have also said that the two passengers who tested positive were not on the Mexico cruise.  And that all of the crew who have tested positive and those they have closely associated with have been isolated but were mostly customer facing people.  Seriously hoping that this happened immediately after they showed symptoms and that there aren't more who test positive.

given they did 46 tests and got the results they did...21 you know they are going to have many people that they need to put in quarantine....no doubt they know this and that is why it is taking time to find a place to dock and deal with this...also sending the others off is not great given the incubation period but I think they will simply have to send them off and tell them to "self quarantine".

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33 minutes ago, caribill said:

 

Part of the advisory:

 

"We will conduct additional pre-boarding screening of all guests and crew who have visited areas with community spread of COVID-19 ...."

 

Soon community spread will mean most of the USA. Certainly it would apply now to those from New York City area and the Seattle Washington area.

 

 

Right.Good luck on that. Seattle now has pervasive community spread. I can see the summer Alaska cruises circling the drain...

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I have read the first page plus last two pages of this thread, plus I’m on hold with Princess. So far, my question is unanswered. Does anybody know the phone number to call the ship? Our really good friend is on board, with no devices to connect her to the outside world except her cabin’s telephone. She called me Thursday but I didn’t get to answer. Her message left a phone number with too many digits!

 

I’m sure she would appreciate a phone call from us. Anybody know how I could call her?

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Posted (edited)

Wonder why it is taking the CDC, state & local authorities so long to figure our where and when the Grand should dock?

Edited by LARGIN

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, brisalta said:

 

NWSP how quickly would the Australian authorities make a decision if faced with such a scenario?

I doubt it would be any quicker than the current process with Grand.  Even Sydney would be struggling to deal with it.   In my previous life I had some experience in disaster management and emergency management planning, mainly for major events in Sydney.

Edited by NSWP

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