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I thought the plan at one point was to test every passenger and crew member. Seems like this is another part of the plan not quite in place.

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16 hours ago, wrongwaywatson said:

There is absolutely no reason to take The Grand out of commission.   The virus won't live on the ship without people and it will be easily decontaminated.  It is PEOPLE that are the problem, not the ship.

We have sailed on her 3 times, the last time on the 15 day SF to Hawaii and back cruise.  We love her!  We are booked to sail on her to Alaska 5/30 of this year.  

 

We are on that exact same Booking (05/30) and haven't cancelled. If Princess

cancels this trip then so be it. Been planning it for 2 years. (25th Anniversary)

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12 hours ago, ClwtrBoi said:

Hopefully someone else can chime in, but you might need to dial a + before the numbers. 


Actually, I think it needed 011, which the Princess rep knew, and my cell phone did, too! 
 

still haven’t gotten an answer, though, plus now I have nine hours of progress to read.

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36 minutes ago, Cruise Raider said:


 I think Oakland is a logical choice.  So many of these passengers on San Francisco based sailings are from the area.   For those that test negative, I wonder if there is any room in their policies for some self imposed quarantines at home.  It’s already in the community spread phase in California anyway....not that more is better but seems like the cat is already out of the bag.  

I just read where 40 passengers are from Minnesota. We do not have community spread here yet and only one case (from another cruise) so far reported.  I don't think they are going to quarantine these people if they test negative and will send them back here to "self quarantine" and I expect local cases to start going up. Many testing negative will eventually show symptoms and be positive...how many?  Who knows but we now know this happens.

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12 hours ago, cruisingnewtoit said:

We can still cancel the cruise but our airline tickets are non-refundable. My husband refuses to think about canceling the cruise. I wish we could take the cruise next year and move the airfare to that cruise. 

 

I have the vacation and sick time if I get the virus. My DH does not have the time for 14 days of quarantine. 

 

 

Us as well, and also Us as well

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18 minutes ago, coats141 said:

 

We are on that exact same Booking (05/30) and haven't cancelled. If Princess

cancels this trip then so be it. Been planning it for 2 years. (25th Anniversary)

 

Happy Anniversary! I hope your cruise works out for you.

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6 minutes ago, Ferry_Watcher said:

 

Happy Anniversary! I hope your cruise works out for you.

 

Thank You, its the 18th of this month, but obviously Alaska

cruises don't run in March so we picked end of May. As we

pray for those affected, our hope is we still get to take ours.

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3 minutes ago, coats141 said:

 

Thank You, its the 18th of this month, but obviously Alaska

cruises don't run in March so we picked end of May. As we

pray for those affected, our hope is we still get to take ours.

 

Leaving out of Seattle?  If so, hopefully by then there will be a 'best practices' system in place so the passengers/crew will be screened and the embarkation/disembarkation will all be routine and straightforward.

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1 minute ago, Ferry_Watcher said:

 

Leaving out of Seattle?  If so, hopefully by then there will be a 'best practices' system in place so the passengers/crew will be screened and the embarkation/disembarkation will all be routine and straightforward.

 

Whittier, and ends in Vancouver (This is our concern, they are telling people not to cruise)

 

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However, late Saturday afternoon, the CDC informed the cruise line of their decision to issue a “no-sail order” until the crew member was tested for Novel Coronavirus, Princess Cruises said.

According to the cruise line, they were unable to obtain a test for the crew member, and “due to the unknown timing of obtaining the test and results or anticipated response,” the cruise was cancelled.

Princess Cruises says the crew member, who had no known contact or exposure to other guests or crew who were sick on the Grand Princess, is past the maximum incubation of Novel Coronavirus, has been evaluated, and has never developed any respiratory symptoms or fever.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-08-20-intl-hnk/index.html

 

the last sentence is odd surely it should be no other contact with anyone who has show symptoms to date

 
 
 
 

 

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12 minutes ago, coats141 said:

 

Whittier, and ends in Vancouver (This is our concern, they are telling people not to cruise)

 

Yeah, Vancouver could be an issue.  Hopefully, not!

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https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/georgia/coronavirus-34-georgians-aboard-grand-princess-cruise-ship-be-transferred-military-base/KREBUA7G6ZENHAJJQ7TN22YFD4/?fbclid=IwAR3G5nMVSD9z-nggGy4kqhA4AoPfKG5NzmLi7-UozQmkM_JesN4iMKTnNRo

 

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced that he has learned 34 Georgians and are currently on the Grand Princess cruise ship off the California coast. They will be securely transferred to Dobbins Air Reserve Base in Marietta, Ga., according to Kemp.

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4 minutes ago, flamingos said:

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/georgia/coronavirus-34-georgians-aboard-grand-princess-cruise-ship-be-transferred-military-base/KREBUA7G6ZENHAJJQ7TN22YFD4/?fbclid=IwAR3G5nMVSD9z-nggGy4kqhA4AoPfKG5NzmLi7-UozQmkM_JesN4iMKTnNRo

 

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced that he has learned 34 Georgians and are currently on the Grand Princess cruise ship off the California coast. They will be securely transferred to Dobbins Air Reserve Base in Marietta, Ga., according to Kemp.

so will they be tested in Ca? Are all states that have a number of residents on this ship going to follow suit?

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9 minutes ago, kathy49 said:

so will they be tested in Ca? Are all states that have a number of residents on this ship going to follow suit?

 

It's a new story, details just coming out. The first one made it look as if Kemp was the one who ordered it; this one below makes it more like it was planned by someone else and he is just announcing it.

 

"I have learned that thirty-four Georgians and additional American citizens from the eastern United States who are currently on the Grand Princess cruise ship off the California coast will be securely transferred to Dobbins Air Reserve Base in Marietta, Georgia," Kemp said in a release Sunday morning. "These passengers will undergo testing and be quarantined for possible exposure to COVID-19. They are expected to arrive at Dobbins late Monday, March 9 or early Tuesday, March 10."

There is no indication if any of the people being transported to Georgia have tested positive for coronavirus, nor how many individuals in addition to the 34 Georgians would be arriving at Dobbins.

According to California state officials, the Grand Princess has been given permission to dock at the Port of Oakland on Monday, where disembarkation of passengers will begin.    https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/some-grand-princess-passengers-headed-to-atlanta/85-c3c9980d-b67d-46e1-b68f-de9fb9d17ae3

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6 hours ago, snowblower said:

I don't believe there has ever been a large passenger liner cruise under the Bay Bridge but I could be wrong.

 

Many cruise ship dry docks are performed at BAE Systems, located in the Dogpatch neighborhood, south of the Bay Bridge.

 

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Just heard on a Canadian radio station (CBC) that Canada will airlift any Canadians on the Grand back home to Canada.

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Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, flamingos said:

 

It's a new story, details just coming out. The first one made it look as if Kemp was the one who ordered it; this one below makes it more like it was planned by someone else and he is just announcing it.

 

"I have learned that thirty-four Georgians and additional American citizens from the eastern United States who are currently on the Grand Princess cruise ship off the California coast will be securely transferred to Dobbins Air Reserve Base in Marietta, Georgia," Kemp said in a release Sunday morning. "These passengers will undergo testing and be quarantined for possible exposure to COVID-19. They are expected to arrive at Dobbins late Monday, March 9 or early Tuesday, March 10."

There is no indication if any of the people being transported to Georgia have tested positive for coronavirus, nor how many individuals in addition to the 34 Georgians would be arriving at Dobbins.

According to California state officials, the Grand Princess has been given permission to dock at the Port of Oakland on Monday, where disembarkation of passengers will begin.    https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/some-grand-princess-passengers-headed-to-atlanta/85-c3c9980d-b67d-46e1-b68f-de9fb9d17ae3

 

So wondering if they all go on the same airplane? Testing negative, and then changing to positive on the bus.. Just seems like a potential repeat of the Diamond process in evacuation. Hoping they've learned what works best.

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15 minutes ago, kimanjo said:

 

So wondering if they all go on the same airplane? Testing negative, and then changing to positive on the bus.. Just seems like a potential repeat of the Diamond process in evacuation.

it will be a repeat...still wondering if they will test all prior to departure to at least get some under quarantine...clearly Ca. wants them to go to their own states...it is a repeat to an extent but they are at least getting them on land quickly. That is an improvement.

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Dr. Antony Fauci this morning:

 

“If you're a person with an underlying condition and you are particularly an elderly person with an underlying condition, you need to think twice about getting on a plane, on a long trip,” he said. “And not only think twice, just don't get on a cruise ship.”

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/08/coronavirus-dont-get-on-cruise-ship-123718

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4 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

Dr. Antony Fauci this morning:

 

“If you're a person with an underlying condition and you are particularly an elderly person with an underlying condition, you need to think twice about getting on a plane, on a long trip,” he said. “And not only think twice, just don't get on a cruise ship.”

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/08/coronavirus-dont-get-on-cruise-ship-123718

interesting wording..".think twice "about flying but "just don't" get on a cruise ship.  As someone is his target audience I would agree with that.

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On 3/5/2020 at 5:41 PM, caribill said:

"they've noticed subtle changes on the cruise. They had to wash their hands and use hand sanitizer before getting a plate and silverware for the buffet.

"And crew handled everything," he said. "We were not allowed to serve ourselves.""
 



That's literally normal procedure at the buffet for Princess.

The crew serving at the buffet is their noro procedure.

 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, kathy49 said:

interesting wording..".think twice "about flying but "just don't" get on a cruise ship.  As someone is his target audience I would agree with that.

Did not need an expert to tell me that  ...lol ! 🙂

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3 minutes ago, Pegasus2 said:



That's literally normal procedure at the buffet for Princess.

The crew serving at the buffet is their noro procedure.

 

Given the crew are coming down with covid 19 and at high risk for it how is this a good situation?

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