The_Big_M Posted April 3, 2020 #201 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: I think this has a lot to do with it. There are many other vectors it can, and has been passed on, so I don't think that is a major issue. Basically, if it was on the ship otherwise, the fact buffet food is served wouldn't stop it spreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader1111 Posted April 3, 2020 #202 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, nnps said: Neither did the Pacific Explorer. In fact I don't remember reading of any P&O ship with Covid-19 cases. Perhaps to do with their staff serving food and not self-service. It probably has more to do with the itineraries they were running. It is no coincidence that all of Australia's CV-19 cruises were trips to NZ, with the sole exception of the Artania. The yanks love coming to Australia and going on cruises to NZ. It allows them to kill 2 birds with one stone, visiting both Australia and NZ, with only one trans-Pacific return flight required. In comparison with South Pacific cruises (which is what Pacific Explorer was doing), there is always a much higher number of yanks on board these cruises. America is by far and away the biggest source of CV-19 infections in Australia. It is highly likely that the passenger who took CV-19 onto the Ruby Princess was an American (or less likely a European). With so many more Americans on the NZ cruises, it was always more likely that these cruises would be hit by CV-19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnps Posted April 3, 2020 #203 Share Posted April 3, 2020 The Pacific Explorer did go to Singapore in January/February. Singapore was already into Covid-19 reaction with temperature testing and banning of people with Chinese passports at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted April 3, 2020 #204 Share Posted April 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Vader1111 said: It probably has more to do with the itineraries they were running. It is no coincidence that all of Australia's CV-19 cruises were trips to NZ, with the sole exception of the Artania. The yanks love coming to Australia and going on cruises to NZ. It allows them to kill 2 birds with one stone, visiting both Australia and NZ, with only one trans-Pacific return flight required. In comparison with South Pacific cruises (which is what Pacific Explorer was doing), there is always a much higher number of yanks on board these cruises. America is by far and away the biggest source of CV-19 infections in Australia. It is highly likely that the passenger who took CV-19 onto the Ruby Princess was an American (or less likely a European). With so many more Americans on the NZ cruises, it was always more likely that these cruises would be hit by CV-19. Agreed. It was already spreading in the US to the extent some companies were working from home early March at the same time they were entering Australia for cruises. But as you say they preferred some cruises to others. Further to that, it's quite difficult for overseas travellers to book P&O Australia cruises, so this is probably the main preventative factor benefiting P&O to my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted April 3, 2020 #205 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, nnps said: The Pacific Explorer did go to Singapore in January/February. Singapore was already into Covid-19 reaction with temperature testing and banning of people with Chinese passports at the time. But it did not carry any pax out of there, and was sailing two weeks empty without passengers so there was minimal chance for anything to get on board (only limited workers) and even if anything did it most certainly died onboard, hence no infections on crew or subsequent passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisegroover Posted April 3, 2020 #206 Share Posted April 3, 2020 This operation is currently underway in Sydney Harbour between Spectrum and Radiance. The Ovation is swapping with the Solstice and will sail tonight for Bali. I heard Captain Henrik's announcement on another forum and the reaction of the crew to this news was lots of cheering etc http://crew-center.com/royal-caribbean-use-three-australia-based-cruise-ships-repatriate-crew-members-home?fbclid=IwAR3Wf05x7bjn8O0ZQzHBg3R8bRDSyMJ3CPnZ3xNFSBfMs9Ch5FhCOQ3I108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisegroover Posted April 3, 2020 #207 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, nnps said: The Pacific Explorer did go to Singapore in January/February. Singapore was already into Covid-19 reaction with temperature testing and banning of people with Chinese passports at the time. They went into dry dock and returned to Sydney with crew only. They had no cases onboard so did a 3 night cruise on return with a stop in Eden which was cancelled when the ban announced and returned to Sydney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted April 4, 2020 #208 Share Posted April 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cruisegroover said: This operation is currently underway in Sydney Harbour between Spectrum and Radiance. The Ovation is swapping with the Solstice and will sail tonight for Bali. I heard Captain Henrik's announcement on another forum and the reaction of the crew to this news was lots of cheering etc http://crew-center.com/royal-caribbean-use-three-australia-based-cruise-ships-repatriate-crew-members-home?fbclid=IwAR3Wf05x7bjn8O0ZQzHBg3R8bRDSyMJ3CPnZ3xNFSBfMs9Ch5FhCOQ3I108 Interesting. So Ovation and Spectrum are heading off to Asia, leaving Australia since we don't want them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi_cruiser Posted April 4, 2020 Author #209 Share Posted April 4, 2020 As mention early on in the thread, the Azamara Journey has left Brisbane and now on her way to Benoa, Indonesia: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillpickle48 Posted April 4, 2020 #210 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Going to Indonesia may be better for a large number of crew members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted April 4, 2020 #211 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Vader1111 said: It probably has more to do with the itineraries they were running. It is no coincidence that all of Australia's CV-19 cruises were trips to NZ, with the sole exception of the Artania. The yanks love coming to Australia and going on cruises to NZ. It allows them to kill 2 birds with one stone, visiting both Australia and NZ, with only one trans-Pacific return flight required. In comparison with South Pacific cruises (which is what Pacific Explorer was doing), there is always a much higher number of yanks on board these cruises. America is by far and away the biggest source of CV-19 infections in Australia. It is highly likely that the passenger who took CV-19 onto the Ruby Princess was an American (or less likely a European). With so many more Americans on the NZ cruises, it was always more likely that these cruises would be hit by CV-19. I agree with your comments. On our last NZ cruise (Sea Princess, 23rd Feb to 8th March 2020) out of 1,900 passengers there were more than 400 Americans, and incidentally roughly the same amount of Brits. A few years ago, there would have been a couple of dozen only from each of those countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi_cruiser Posted April 4, 2020 Author #212 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) Saturday Update - 4th April 2020: In this weekend update I am only going to mention ships in New South Wales and Queensland: I will do a full fleet update once I see what Royal Caribbean does in the next few days ..... New South Wales: Spectrum of the Seas: Is currently docked in Sydney harbour. Going by reports I have been reading on Facebook and what Marine Traffic is saying it looks Spectrum of the Seas will be heading to Bail latter today or very soon 😞 Radiance of the Seas: This morning Radiance of the Seas was docked in Sydney harbour... she is now of Cronulla: Going by what Marine Traffic is saying, it looks like she might be heading to Singapore very soon: 😞 Voyager of the Seas: Is currently of Palm Beach, NSW Coast: Ovation of the Seas: She is currently of coast of Sydney: Ruby Princess: Ruby Princess is currently of Manly: Celebrity Solstice: Is been a good ship and not going MIA (Missing in Action) 😋 🙂 , she is currently of coast of Sydney: Edited April 4, 2020 by Kiwi_cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted April 4, 2020 #213 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Thanks Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog-46 Posted April 4, 2020 #214 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Arcadia bunkered in Durban a week ago & is bound for Southampton in S.Atlantic. QM2 bunkered & stored at Durban, landed 6 SA crew & is now around Cape of Good Hope bound for Southampton. There are 264 passengers onboard after the rest were disembarked in Fremantle. Also 1209 crew. Durban is expecting Amsterdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi_cruiser Posted April 4, 2020 Author #215 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) Queensland: Pacific Dawn: Is currently anchored of Caloundra: I think we can see the Sea Princess on her webcam 🙂 Pacific Explorer: Is currently on her way to Gladstone: Sun Princess: Is currently of the Gold Coast: Sea Princess: Is currently of Caloundra: Carnival Spirit: Is currently of Gladstone: Carnival Splendor: Is currently on her way to Gladstone: Queen Elizabeth: Is still anchored of Gladstone: Her webcam is updating again: Edited April 4, 2020 by Kiwi_cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted April 4, 2020 #216 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Thanks Stu, very comprehensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog-46 Posted April 4, 2020 #217 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Cruise Ship departures & others :- Wind Spirit off Fraser Island - AIS Singapore 23/4 Spectrum ots off NSW N coast - AIS Bali 15/4 Ovation ots NSW S coast - AIS Singapore 20/4 Voyager ots NSW S coast - AIS Bali 16/4 Radiance ots off Vic. SE coast - AIS Singapore 15/4 Cel. Solstice off NSW S coast - AIS Singapore 18/4 Stooging about - Sun Princess off Gold Coast heading South - AIS Gladstone Carnival Slendor heading into BNE pilot / anchorage Ruby P. off NSW. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog-46 Posted April 4, 2020 #218 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Found some missing - Carnival Spirit off Fraser Island heading south with AIS Gladstone 4/4? Pac. Explorer a long way east of Gladstone in traffic lane to Jomard Entrance east of PNG. AIS Gladstone 17:00 today. Carnival Splendor just taking BNE pilot of Mooloolaba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted April 5, 2020 #219 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted April 5, 2020 #220 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) Crikey, Qld is going to cop some vessels now. Perhaps they are stocking up on XXXX Gold, that awful Qld brew.😆 Edited April 5, 2020 by NSWP 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum52 Posted April 5, 2020 #221 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Viking Orion is still in Port Phillip Bay and Golden Princess is tied up at Staion Pier. Pacific Aria is off Adelaide. According to Cruise Mapper, Radiance of the Seas is off the Victorian Coast east of Wilsons Prom and Voyager of the Seas, Ovation of the Seas and Celebrity Soltice are off the southern NSW coast heading south. Heading to Melbourne? Leigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker123 Posted April 5, 2020 #222 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, possum52 said: Viking Orion is still in Port Phillip Bay and Golden Princess is tied up at Staion Pier. Pacific Aria is off Adelaide. According to Cruise Mapper, Radiance of the Seas is off the Victorian Coast east of Wilsons Prom and Voyager of the Seas, Ovation of the Seas and Celebrity Soltice are off the southern NSW coast heading south. Heading to Melbourne? Leigh Those 4 ships that left Sydney are showing either Bali or Singapore as their destinations in marinetraffic. Obviously taking the scenic route along the Great Ocean Road. None are showing as expected arrivals in Vicports. However, Glorious Leader is due tomorrow. Edited April 5, 2020 by Docker123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum52 Posted April 5, 2020 #223 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Docker123 said: Those 4 ships that left Sydney are showing either Bali or Singapore as their destinations in marinetraffic. Obviously taking the scenic route along the Great Ocean Road. Perhaps bunkering in Melbourne before continuing around to the west coast and onto Bali and Singapore? Certainly the long way around. They can't even stop at the Twelve Apostles as the information centre is closed. 😀 Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog-46 Posted April 5, 2020 #224 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Bunkering in Melbourne too expensive with long pilotage! According to media - all these cruise ships bunkered, moved crews between ships & stored in Sydney harbour last night in the biggest maritime operation since WW2. All are RCC/Cel. ships bound south about to Asian ports except Spctrum that is north about to Bali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 5, 2020 #225 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Pacific Aria just passed KI headed to Melbourne at 15 knots. Due at 2.00pm tomorrow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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