4 deaths on HALs Zaandam

[MicCanberra]

The WA and Commonwealth Governments are currently evacuating the Artania and the Vasco De Gama, for repatriation, quarantining and medical assistance depending on nationality and health, they can sort out the Zaandam once that is done. 

[MicCanberra]

The Zaandam is by the panama canal, I go confused with the MSC ship, although there are some negotiations to get any Australians off the Zaandam and back home.

[The_Big_M]

Yeah, not related. Though in respect of Magnifica no need to wait for the others to be resolved before it is. Without cases they are simpler.

[MicCanberra]

9 minutes ago, The_Big_M said:

Yeah, not related. Though in respect of Magnifica no need to wait for the others to be resolved before it is. Without cases they are simpler.

The new rules makes it more complicated and WA are resistant due to the costs involved.

[The_Big_M]

12 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

The new rules makes it more complicated and WA are resistant due to the costs involved.

 

No more complicated for Magnifica than the others.

 

And your second point is the issue, people valuing dollars above humanity. No need to waste it (as ScoMo is doing with the broad quarantine) but it's not an excuse to unnecessarily prioritise dollars above people either.

[Pushka]

A statistic released last Friday on the Composition of origins of Covid in Australia. 20% infections from USA and another 20% infections from Cruise ships. And the percentages reduced from there. Cruiselines cracked down on Citizens from China, then HK, then Iran, Korea, then Italy. Seems they needed to crack down in other areas too. 

[FSG]

Foreign ships, cruise or cargo, routinely dock in restricted areas for many reasons, including biosecurity and immigration reasons. So, it seems unreasonable that many major ports are unilaterally turning away, and not rendering humanitarian assistance, to cruise ships that have sick passengers. Admittedly, not all countries have unlimited resources, but rendering assistance for urgent cases, is surely a basic obligation.

[MicCanberra]

1 hour ago, FSG said:

Foreign ships, cruise or cargo, routinely dock in restricted areas for many reasons, including biosecurity and immigration reasons. So, it seems unreasonable that many major ports are unilaterally turning away, and not rendering humanitarian assistance, to cruise ships that have sick passengers. Admittedly, not all countries have unlimited resources, but rendering assistance for urgent cases, is surely a basic obligation.

Welcome to cruise critic.

[dillpickle48]

Latest news from Holland America is that the Zaandam and the Amsterdam have now been given permission to transit the Panama Canal.  Fingers crossed.

Edited March 29, 2020 by dillpickle48

[MicCanberra]

I am glad they are able to do the canal.

[Blackduck59]

It's good that Panama is relenting for Zaandam and Rotterdam but that still doesn't get them to a safe port to disembark yet. I hope wherever they do port they do it right and get the people off the ship. Don't do the Diamond Princess to them and don't do the Ruby Princess to the port.

[The_Big_M]

1 hour ago, Blackduck59 said:

It's good that Panama is relenting for Zaandam and Rotterdam but that still doesn't get them to a safe port to disembark yet. I hope wherever they do port they do it right and get the people off the ship. Don't do the Diamond Princess to them and don't do the Ruby Princess to the port.

 

US ports are still open, for the moment anyway. They were trying to head to the US so I presume that's still the case and they should then be able to land (unless something changes by the time they get there).

[MMDown Under]

For those passengers who use social media, Captain Jonathan, in his blog, said a few words of encouragement to the crew of Zaandam and Rotterdam, who is assisting her, would do a power of good  you tag #HALstrong

Captain Jonathan is the Captain of Amsterdam. 

Edited March 29, 2020 by MMDown Under

[SeaDog-46]

Zaandam now entering Panama Canal for night passage - 21:00 Panama time.

Bound for Florida with extra medical staff that came from Mexico on Rotterdam.

Some passenger transfers with the empty [pax] Rotterdam yesterday. 

[Kiwi Kruzer]

45 minutes ago, SeaDog-46 said:

Zaandam now entering Panama Canal for night passage - 21:00 Panama time.

Bound for Florida with extra medical staff that came from Mexico on Rotterdam.

Some passenger transfers with the empty [pax] Rotterdam yesterday. 

Thanks for the heads up. Watching her in the new locks on the Pacific side .

[Kiwi Kruzer]

Here are some shots of Zaandam coming through the locks at night .

 

 

 

[dillpickle48]

Rotterdam looks like she is about to follow the Zaandam through the new canal.

[Kiwi Kruzer]

23 minutes ago, dillpickle48 said:

Rotterdam looks like she is about to follow the Zaandam through the new canal.

Yes they are both going through . I bet that will cost a lot.

[dillpickle48]

You are right.  Holland will be paying plenty.  Priority through the new canal - unheard of before.

[MicCanberra]

great shots ,well lit up.

[Kiwi Kruzer]

1 minute ago, MicCanberra said:

great shots ,well lit up.

Great lighting indeed . I believe they generate all their own electricity from the movement of the water .

[MicCanberra]

5 minutes ago, Kiwi Kruzer said:

Great lighting indeed . I believe they generate all their own electricity from the movement of the water .

how enlightening.

[Aus Traveller]

1 hour ago, dillpickle48 said:

Rotterdam looks like she is about to follow the Zaandam through the new canal.

Those photos look like the old canal. The Zaamdam and the Rotterdam can fit through the old canal, although they are the maximum width.

[dillpickle48]

Comments on the Holland forum state it is the new canal and are watching on the new canal cams.

[Aus Traveller]

14 minutes ago, dillpickle48 said:

Comments on the Holland forum state it is the new canal and are watching on the new canal cams.

OK. If the ships have gone through the new locks, I stand corrected.🙂