Will you have to take off your mask to get your picture taken for your cruise card?

[navybankerteacher]

4 hours ago, ontheweb said:

We've never been fingerprinted at any of the airports in the USA or Europe that we have been in. I'd be interested in knowing what airports you are referring to.

 

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I’d be interested in knowing what airports you have been to.

[lenquixote66]

10 hours ago, wowzz said:

Let's face it, if the CV19 situation is still so bad that people are needing to wear masks, cruises will not be taking place. 

Cruising is not a necessity.Many people believe that it is.

[ontheweb]

4 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

I’d be interested in knowing what airports you have been to.

OK. The three NY area airports. Heathrow in London. Airports in Amsterdam,. Copenhagen, Paris, and Barcelona. Airports in Boston, Seattle, and Montreal. Also an airport in Madrid just to change planes. I think I have named them all, but I might think of another.

 

Oops, I left out the airport in Fort Lauderdale. I thought of it just before hitting submit.

[wowzz]

5 hours ago, ducklite said:

It has been since 2004.  And I believe a component of ETIAS will be fingerprinting at the first point of entry using the system once it's in place.

Surely finger printing on entry into the US was in place long before 2004? I seem to remember long queues in the 1990s to pass through immigration,  with those pesky fingerprint pads. 

[wowzz]

5 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

I’d be interested in knowing what airports you have been to.

I've been fingerprinted in Chicago, Boston, New York (JFK and EWR), Tampa, LA and San Francisco. 

I think "ontheweb" is a little out of touch with the reality of entering the US. 

[navybankerteacher]

43 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

OK. The three NY area airports. Heathrow in London. Airports in Amsterdam,. Copenhagen, Paris, and Barcelona. Airports in Boston, Seattle, and Montreal. Also an airport in Madrid just to change planes. I think I have named them all, but I might think of another.

 

Oops, I left out the airport in Fort Lauderdale. I thought of it just before hitting submit.

How recently did you pass through those European airports?  And, if you really do much international have you ever though of obtaining Global Entry?

[ducklite]

48 minutes ago, wowzz said:

Surely finger printing on entry into the US was in place long before 2004? I seem to remember long queues in the 1990s to pass through immigration,  with those pesky fingerprint pads. 

Possibly, I'm not really sure.

[ontheweb]

58 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

OK. The three NY area airports. Heathrow in London. Airports in Amsterdam,. Copenhagen, Paris, and Barcelona. Airports in Boston, Seattle, and Montreal. Also an airport in Madrid just to change planes. I think I have named them all, but I might think of another.

 

Oops, I left out the airport in Fort Lauderdale. I thought of it just before hitting submit.

I just realized I left out a whole bunch.

 

Before 2002 when we first took a cruise---Miami on a family trip when I was a teenager, Bahamas for our honeymoon, San Francisco for a younger brother's wedding, and Ochos Rios in Jamaica for our 20th anniversary. All these were back in the 20th century.

 

Also last summer we did an escorted land trip in Peru. So add Lima plus there were 2 or 3 other small airports on which we traveled in Peru.

 

[wowzz]

24 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

I just realized I left out a whole bunch.

 

Before 2002 when we first took a cruise---Miami on a family trip when I was a teenager, Bahamas for our honeymoon, San Francisco for a younger brother's wedding, and Ochos Rios in Jamaica for our 20th anniversary. All these were back in the 20th century.

 

Also last summer we did an escorted land trip in Peru. So add Lima plus there were 2 or 3 other small airports on which we traveled in Peru.

 

I'm not sure what your point is. It is a fact that fingerprints are taken when entering the US. 

Just giving a small list of  places you have flown to does not alter that fact.

[ontheweb]

1 hour ago, ontheweb said:

I just realized I left out a whole bunch.

 

Before 2002 when we first took a cruise---Miami on a family trip when I was a teenager, Bahamas for our honeymoon, San Francisco for a younger brother's wedding, and Ochos Rios in Jamaica for our 20th anniversary. All these were back in the 20th century.

 

Also last summer we did an escorted land trip in Peru. So add Lima plus there were 2 or 3 other small airports on which we traveled in Peru.

 

Two more I forgot. For our 40th anniversary we did an escorted land tour in Central Europe. We flew into Budapest (with a stop in Paris) and back direct from Prague. On the date of our actual anniversary, we had breakfast in our hotel in Budapest and when we entered our room in our hotel in Prague found a small bottle of champagne there for our anniversary.

[ontheweb]

1 hour ago, wowzz said:

I'm not sure what your point is. It is a fact that fingerprints are taken when entering the US. 

Just giving a small list of  places you have flown to does not alter that fact.

I was answering a question posed to me as to what airports we have flown to or from. No other point to the lists. 

[ldubs]

8 hours ago, wowzz said:

I'm not sure what your point is. It is a fact that fingerprints are taken when entering the US. 

Just giving a small list of  places you have flown to does not alter that fact.

 

Perhaps because OnTheWeb is a legal US resident and in a different queue for reentry?  I suspect fingerprinting for non-residents entering the US started before it did for US citizens reentering the country.  But, I'm kinda just guessing.   I have been fingerprinted at some port entry points in Asia.  Japan and Singapore come to mind.  

[Roger88]

Of course you will have to take it down. I dont think that they will make you remove it completly but in some cases I suppose that they might ask you to send a picture later after they fill in all of your personal data. Or just take your photo later when you wont be required to wear a mask. This is how I see it

[wowzz]

The only reason for wearing a non-medical mask is to protect others, not yourself. Therefore, if the cruise lines demand you wear a mask, that indicates that CV19 is still prevalent.  In that situation why would anyone in their right minds consider going on a floating incubation tank, such as a cruise ship?

[BlueRiband]

To answer the OP's original question: It wouldn't affect me.  I would not be on a ship where I had to wear a mask.  Nor would I sail if "social distancing" was in place. 

[wowzz]

7 minutes ago, BlueRiband said:

To answer the OP's original question: It wouldn't affect me.  I would not be on a ship where I had to wear a mask.  Nor would I sail if "social distancing" was in place. 

Exactly, some people here seem to be in denial about the continued danger of CV19 for at least the next 12 months, if not longer.

[ontheweb]

11 hours ago, ontheweb said:

Two more I forgot. For our 40th anniversary we did an escorted land tour in Central Europe. We flew into Budapest (with a stop in Paris) and back direct from Prague. On the date of our actual anniversary, we had breakfast in our hotel in Budapest and when we entered our room in our hotel in Prague found a small bottle of champagne there for our anniversary.

One last one, and I really believe it is the last one is the airport in San Juan, Puerto Rico. I remembered that one when I woke up earlier this morning.

[ontheweb]

4 hours ago, ldubs said:

 

Perhaps because OnTheWeb is a legal US resident and in a different queue for reentry?  I suspect fingerprinting for non-residents entering the US started before it did for US citizens reentering the country.  But, I'm kinda just guessing.   I have been fingerprinted at some port entry points in Asia.  Japan and Singapore come to mind.  

Yes DW and I are native born citizens and have not been fingerprinted at any airport. We have not been to Asia, so have not experienced what might happen at those airport locations.

 

I never said I doubted that non-residents were fingerprinted when entering the USA. I am a bit surprised that other countries have not retaliated by demanding the same of US residents entering their countries.

[wowzz]

17 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

Yes DW and I are native born citizens and have not been fingerprinted at any airport. We have not been to Asia, so have not experienced what might happen at those airport locations.

 

I never said I doubted that non-residents were fingerprinted when entering the USA. I am a bit surprised that other countries have not retaliated by demanding the same of US residents entering their countries.

I've been to various Asian countries and never been fingerprinted. 

To be honest,  the whole finger printing process is a complete waste of time - what exactly is the purpose of it?  No wonder virtually no other country does it. 

[ducklite]

33 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

One last one, and I really believe it is the last one is the airport in San Juan, Puerto Rico. I remembered that one when I woke up earlier this morning.

That's considered a US airport.  

[ducklite]

11 minutes ago, wowzz said:

I've been to various Asian countries and never been fingerprinted. 

To be honest,  the whole finger printing process is a complete waste of time - what exactly is the purpose of it?  No wonder virtually no other country does it. 

Actually it's for a good reason.  It helps the police identify suspects in crimes.  Having their fingerprints on file makes it much easier to put a detainer on them as they are trying to leave the country. 

A friend is OPD at MCO.  A couple of times a month they arrest someone at the airport trying to flee the country while there's an active warrant or other detainer out on them.  Back around Christmas they arrested a guy from Germany who was wanted in a rape of a hotel worker in a hotel parking lot.  

I want to think I was fingerprinted at HEL last November, but I could be wrong.  I think that as we get closer to ESTIA there will be a lot of changes, and fingerprinting will become far more common.  Probably 20% of the people in the US have fingerprints on file--if they have served in the military, legally own(ed) a handgun, worked in education or with children in other capacities, volunteered at a school, worked for the Federal government, anyone who has had a criminal background check done for employment or volunteer work, the list goes on.   I'm almost surprised that fingerprints or retinal scans aren't a requirement of obtaining a passport.  I wouldn't be surprised to see it down the road.

[Flatbush Flyer]

1 hour ago, wowzz said:

....the whole finger printing process is a complete waste of time - what exactly is the purpose of it?  No wonder virtually no other country does it. 

Fingerprints? "The lifeblood of law enforcement," including validating the background of the those individuals (like all school personnel) who most often come into contact with your kids.

Oddly enough- there's a fair chance that YOUR fingerprints already exist in the NCIC database. 

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ncic

On a ship, that thumb scan would do the same as full face visual. BTW, The most important reason for that ID is the ship headcount at port stops.

[wowzz]

9 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said:

Fingerprints? "The lifeblood of law enforcement," including validating the background of the those individuals (like all school personnel) who most often come into contact with your kids.

That's as maybe, but what is the good of fingerprinting the thousands of tourists who visit the US every year?  Even if I am just in transit for three hours my finger prints get taken. It's just a total waste of time and effort, and serves no useful purpose.

[Flatbush Flyer]

3 minutes ago, wowzz said:

That's as maybe, but what is the good of fingerprinting the thousands of tourists who visit the US every year?  Even if I am just in transit for three hours my finger prints get taken. It's just a total waste of time and effort, and serves no useful purpose.

Interpol

[wowzz]

4 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said:

Interpol

Seriously?  You've been watching too many films! 

Are you really saying that in the 60 seconds I stand in front of the Border Control podium, my fingerprints are matched to any of the millions in the central Interpol file to see if I am a person of interest? 

Complete hogwash.